Sasuke arguments.

[777skills]

Why is it that when individuals post Sasuke VS. ANYONE matchups they include Kirin.

It uses Hell alot of chakra, and takes hell alot of chakra to set up.

When Sasuke used it, he was in Cursed mark form fighting itachi in a closed cave, in that cave itachi and sasuke was using fire and eltrci attack with eminate heat

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Notice the clouds forming?

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Although it says the strom clouds hang low, they are high on a mountain...

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This effort was made more effective becuase of itachis use of fire jutsu and ameretsu.

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Even zetsu noticed...

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Kirin couldnt even break a rib, ut raikage and mizukage have been able to damage sasunoo, thus kirin is weaker than raikage and mizukages jutsu...


My point is that there is a ton of set up and this was only possible becuase of there altitude allowing the heat to be closer to the sky and less dispersion due to the fact that half of the heat was stored in a cave, and itachi set half of the forest on fire to call the clouds.

So, dont state "Sasuke got Kirin" when talking about fights against other ninja who have justu that are thirty times more accessible than Kirin. Infact just omit it as a possiblity becuase it is highly unlikely. Now, if he uses it in the manga coming up, kishi will set it up for him. Also if u noted in the last couple mange madara used a much strong fire jutsu and it didnt call thunder clouds.

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[ninjastormgenaration33]

I smell a Sasuke hater.Its already been stated that his Fire Style gets the weather right so he can use Kirin.So don't be a Sasuke hater before you get flamed.Kirin didn't hurt Itachi's Sasuno because of Yata Mirror so stfu

 

[Uchicha Macho]

I smell a Sasuke hater.Its already been stated that his Fire Style gets the weather right so he can use Kirin.So don't be a Sasuke hater before you get flamed

i smell hater too and eww they smell awful

 

[King of Hell]

I smell a Sasuke hater.Its already been stated that his Fire Style gets the weather right so he can use Kirin.So don't be a Sasuke hater before you get flamed

i smell hater too and eww they smell awful

In a way, we need some haters. Mostly to balance out all the fanboys.

 

[Baka Sennin]

it took an amaterasu augmented fireball vs sasuke's fireball, a forest of flaming amaterasu + sasuke's fire jutsu to set up kirin, and even then it only had one shot. it takes a LOT of preparation, i really doubt it takes just one of sasuke's fire jutsu actually to set it up, it needs a lot of preparation time which the opponent could easily exploit, sasuke has also to guide it remember so he can use it if the opponent is in close range.

 

[hirashin]

I smell a Sasuke hater.Its already been stated that his Fire Style gets the weather right so he can use Kirin.So don't be a Sasuke hater before you get flamed.Kirin didn't hurt Itachi's Sasuno because of Yata Mirror so stfu

why do u think he hates sasuke,becus he said u shudnt overrate kirin,ur blinded by ur fanboyism,i bet ur giving sasuke a blowjob right now.

 

[ninjastormgenaration33]

In a way, we need some haters. Mostly to balance out all the fanboys.

Rep +1,this is true

 

[ninjastormgenaration33]

why do u think he hates sasuke,becus he said u shudnt overrate kirin,ur blinded by ur fanboyism,i bet ur giving sasuke a blowjob right now.

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[Rafeal brown]

No. Kirin penetrated itachi's susanoo and burned itachi's akatsuki cloak... Kirin can destroy a mountain.
For a fire style to form thunder clouds it has to be directed towards the sky... Kirin can be used without the cs or amaterasu... According to zetsu, it's more than what humans can achieve through shape manipulation and change of natures chakra alone besides it makes up for having preparation time by been inescapable (1/1000 of a second), it's faster than sound.

 

[Exaar]

I smell a Sasuke hater.Its already been stated that his Fire Style gets the weather right so he can use Kirin.So don't be a Sasuke hater before you get flamed.Kirin didn't hurt Itachi's Sasuno because of Yata Mirror so stfu

How does this make him a hater?, He is just pointing something out you Idiot.

It Takes a Very powerful Fire jutsu for kirin, It took itachi's amaterasu and sasuke has to use ALL of his chakra + curse seal level 2 for the Fire jutsu to get the conditions for Kirin.

Unless you can Prove Sasuke can use kirin by using a Normal Fire jutsu.

i smell hater too and eww they smell awful

Learn to Read posts befor you post.

 

[777skills]

Im, not hating on sasuke im just tired of people trying to prove that sasuke is beast becuase he used all his chakra, all of itachis chakra to do a move that didnt even kill a almost already dead itachi. Thats all im saying.

 

[-Vegeta-]

First of all Kirin only requires very little chakra if any at all because it's natural lightning and second of all Sasuke now has amaterasu so he can heat the atmosphere as quickly as he wants considering amaterasu is very hot. Yes it does require prep, but not an immense amount of it.

 

[777skills]

He is in a mountain close to the sky if he does kirin, he must use Amreestsu on the closest object to the sky, amd he must use alot of it, in the manga the entire forest was on fire and that didnt call the clouds he also had to send to dragon fireballs into the atmosphere along witht eh build up of heat inside of the cave to make the clouds form. If he wre to use ameretsu him self he would run out of chakra and if itachi was able to release sasunoo in time to take the hit that was coming at 1/1000 of a second then itachi must have been moving faster at about 1/1001 of a second at least, itachi is not the fastest ninja we all know this. But my point is that the AMOUNT of chakra it would take for him to pull this off would make it practically the most dangerous move any ninja could possily use in a fight since he must use 100% of his chakra to do it and if it misses ( which there is a great chance it will) sasuke is going to lose to practically any ninja. Im not saying that he CANT use it im saying the Fanboys inparticular should stop using it as a be all end all of jutsu in sasukes arsenal the same goes for Ameretsu and Sasunoo. They all eat chakra like a Boss thus making then one time use jutsu that either work or dont work.

 

[99minutes]

Meh, fanboys and haters. It's like Senju and Uchiha.

It's best not to underrate or even overrate characters. That way you can have a proper discussion with little to no flaming =DD

 

[-Vegeta-]

He is in a mountain close to the sky if he does kirin, he must use Amreestsu on the closest object to the sky, amd he must use alot of it, in the manga the entire forest was on fire and that didnt call the clouds he also had to send to dragon fireballs into the atmosphere along witht eh build up of heat inside of the cave to make the clouds form. If he wre to use ameretsu him self he would run out of chakra and if itachi was able to release sasunoo in time to take the hit that was coming at 1/1000 of a second then itachi must have been moving faster at about 1/1001 of a second at least, itachi is not the fastest ninja we all know this. But my point is that the AMOUNT of chakra it would take for him to pull this off would make it practically the most dangerous move any ninja could possily use in a fight since he must use 100% of his chakra to do it and if it misses ( which there is a great chance it will) sasuke is going to lose to practically any ninja. Im not saying that he CANT use it im saying the Fanboys inparticular should stop using it as a be all end all of jutsu in sasukes arsenal the same goes for Ameretsu and Sasunoo. They all eat chakra like a Boss thus making then one time use jutsu that either work or dont work.

Sasuke has used amaterasu and susanoo several times in a fight. Sasuke has been shown and said to have a high amount of chakra since the beginning of the series, so it's really not a surprise that he can use those jutsu as much as he can. Also Itachi's amaterasu was used on the ground not in the atmosphere. Sasuke could choose to shoot amaterasu from his eyes into the atmosphere and i'm sure that would provide enough heat for him to use kirin considering it's alot hotter than your average fire jutsu.

Sasuke was already extremely low on chakra when he used kirin on Itachi. Also Itachi knew kirin was coming. How can you not when you see a huge lightning beast in the sky? So no he didn't react to lightning. He most likely was already prepping his susanoo before Sasuke even fired kirin.

 

[777skills]

I understand that sasuke can use ameretsu, what im saying is that he can use sasunoo and ameretsu but they are not as strong or as easy as fan boys make it seem to be. Sasuke using amertsu multiple times in a fight along with sasunoo is not a smart thing to do, along with that using amertsu to set up for Kirin is also not a smart thing to do. Also in a normal fight most of the time it will be in a lo altitude as in near sea level, that mountain was at least a mile or higher into the sky, there is alot of heat that will be dispersed on the way to the sky. Amrtsu needs a target. What will sasuke target in the sky? a bird? Amertsu gets larger with the size of the object. So sasuke MUST use it on the highest object in the battle area, what if there in a plain or a desert or anywere like that were there are no very hgih objects he cannot cast Amertsu into the atmosphere, if that were possible that anyone with amertsu could just cast the entire atmosphere on fire, which none of them can. Since sasuke needs a decent amount of matter to use amerstu on he can only use it on low lying objects. That is my point of stating they are in the mountains. Kirin Takes a LOT of chakra to pull off and if it were to mss whcih is likely he will lose the fight. He used all chakra of his normal state and then used all the chakra of cursed mark state (which is what itachi wanted him to do) to pull off that kirin and he has Never even attempted to do it again. Could he do it Yes, is it likely he will be able to do it No.

 

[natssuu]

In a way, we need some haters. Mostly to balance out all the fanboys.

''Some'', Sasuke has way too much haters compared to fanboys. I don't understand why there's is so many people who hates him, because Kishi has done a great job with Sasuke. The way he turned bad from good makes the story 1000x more interesting and I their reasons for hating are so dumb. ''He's gay emobitch'' <-- I just read that today and these comments are written everyday in Narutobase.

Then people say that they hate Sasuke because of the fanboys, wtf? Letting other people to change your own opinion is kinda dumb.

 

[SmartNoob]

Why is it that when individuals post Sasuke VS. ANYONE matchups they include Kirin.

It uses Hell alot of chakra, and takes hell alot of chakra to set up.

When Sasuke used it, he was in Cursed mark form fighting itachi in a closed cave, in that cave itachi and sasuke was using fire and eltrci attack with eminate heat

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This effort was made more effective becuase of itachis use of fire jutsu and ameretsu.

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Even zetsu noticed...

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Kirin couldnt even break a rib, ut raikage and mizukage have been able to damage sasunoo, thus kirin is weaker than raikage and mizukages jutsu...


My point is that there is a ton of set up and this was only possible becuase of there altitude allowing the heat to be closer to the sky and less dispersion due to the fact that half of the heat was stored in a cave, and itachi set half of the forest on fire to call the clouds.

So, dont state "Sasuke got Kirin" when talking about fights against other ninja who have justu that are thirty times more accessible than Kirin. Infact just omit it as a possiblity becuase it is highly unlikely. Now, if he uses it in the manga coming up, kishi will set it up for him. Also if u noted in the last couple mange madara used a much strong fire jutsu and it didnt call thunder clouds.

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that is a good job +rep

 

[jghayes]

I thought kirin didn't use any chakra? because itachi said he was out of chakra before he even implemented the attack, i thought it was all based on the conduction of lightning nature or something like that.

 

[natssuu]

I thought kirin didn't use any chakra? because itachi said he was out of chakra before he even implemented the attack, i thought it was all based on the conduction of lightning nature or something like that.

First you have to create thunder clouds with fire techniques and then use chidori to ''tame'' the lightning. The attack itself doesn't need Sasuke's chakra.