What? but he had to keep the magnetic field up in the puppet in order for the sand to remain in-tact within the puppet thus clogging its joints, Hence why she was able to use it again when the puppet was destroyed
Nice attempt, however, you don't understand how Jiton works. You're implying how if the Satetsu beads are still in the puppets then that means that Jiton Chakura is channelled into them and they will attract the Satetsu which is false.
a] Who are you to say that Sasori cannot control his magnetic fields and not let the Satetsu attract to the Puppets? As you can see, Toroi's Shuriken was magnetized and was touching the ground. Yet, were his Shurikens attracted to the ground? No. More so, Toroi's Shuriken weren't attracted to the Shuriken previously thrown. Your theory came crushing right there.
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b] The Sandaime and Toroi's abilities are no different. We know that both put magnetic fields into the object they are using as a weapon. Toroi puts it into his Shuriken and Sandaime puts it into his Satetsu so when an object full of Jiton Chakura hits an another object, the user's Jinton Chakura will touch and create a magnetic field inside the enemy's body.
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c] Both Toroi and the Sandaime use magnetic fields for their attacks, yet you state it's something different. No. Magnetic fields are magnetic fields. They have the same exact ability. Sorry.
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If you are still stubborn enough to think otherwise, notice this.
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It states that Sasori can weave his Chakura into Magnetism so if anything comes into contact with the Satetsu and it's magnetism, Sasori will create a magnetic force around the enemy's body. Furthermore, this is all it needs to end you. Sasori tells Chiyo how 'You know very well not to block this attack, you have to dodge it!'.
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#Inb4: 'That only applies Puppet Masters, hurr durr' Oh, and where did Sasori or anyone else state anything about Puppets?
If Sasori really wasn't capable of magnetizing other things, then how exactly did the control the magnetized Iron Sand? Eh, Zexion?
Nice attempt, however, you don't understand how Jiton works. You're implying how if the Satetsu beads are still in the puppets then that means that Jiton Chakura is channelled into them and they will attract the Satetsu which is false.
a] Who are you to say that Sasori cannot control his magnetic fields and not let the Satetsu attract to the Puppets? As you can see, Toroi's Shuriken was magnetized and was touching the ground. Yet, were his Shurikens attracted to the ground? No. More so, Toroi's Shuriken weren't attracted to the Shuriken previously thrown. Your theory came crushing right there.
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b] The Sandaime and Toroi's abilities are no different. We know that both put magnetic fields into the object they are using as a weapon. Toroi puts it into his Shuriken and Sandaime puts it into his Satetsu so when an object full of Jiton Chakura hits an another object, the user's Jinton Chakura will touch and create a magnetic field inside the enemy's body.
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c] Both Toroi and the Sandaime use magnetic fields for their attacks, yet you state it's something different. No. Magnetic fields are magnetic fields. They have the same exact ability. Sorry.
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If you are still stubborn enough to think otherwise, notice this.
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It states that Sasori can weave his Chakura into Magnetism so if anything comes into contact with the Satetsu and it's magnetism, Sasori will create a magnetic force around the enemy's body. Furthermore, this is all it needs to end you. Sasori tells Chiyo how 'You know very well not to block this attack, you have to dodge it!'.
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#Inb4: 'That only applies Puppet Masters, hurr durr' Oh, and where did Sasori or anyone else state anything about Puppets?
If Sasori really wasn't capable of magnetizing other things, then how exactly did the control the magnetized Iron Sand? Eh, Zexion?
(will counter later bro >.> Although i see your using that stupid quote again U_U There's nothing i can really do about that if your ignorance is really that severe)
Ugh please understand this U_U Sasori's sand is not controlled at all like Gaara's he clearly has a much more crude control over the IS Which is clearly evident when he wasn't even able to halt one of his own blocks being fired at him
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He can't curve and sway the IS Too his will either as he wasn't able to change the path of the IS in order for him to hit Sakura
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I mean just look at how he had to attack them afterwards
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He had to spawn the IS directly above their heads because it can't curve like Gaara's sand. So even if he can fly Sasori fans need to realize that he can only move in linear directions at high speeds, and will be unable to curve and move around dynamically in the air like Gaara can. Not to mention Kakuzu's hearts can fly anyways so it doesn't really matter now does it U_U However keep this in mind when thinking about IS
Change their flight after launch. That speaks for itself. The scans you posted didn't prove anything, Sasori was simply trying to bypass Chiyo's shield. I didn't say he will curve it away, I said he will engulf Kakuzu once it is close. It should be possible considering he has shown shape manipulation, and can create any shape, thus can create the shape of Kakuzu if he wills, or simply building up IS atop of each other on Sasori. Anyways, claiming he cannot enclose Kakuzu is rather absurd, if he can control small quantities from all directions in a horizontal axis, he can do the same but on a higher scale if he increases the IS quantity.
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and can adjust his attacks based on the terrain of the battlefield
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Although I am not suggesting he has the ease Gaara does, he can certainly do the majority of the things Gaara does, albeit with less mobility, but still possible. Kakuzu's hearts get crushed by this [
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but they have shown to be running on multiple occasions. They simply jump very high, but that doesn't prevent them from getting destroyed by IS. Anyways, more proof of them jumping is the SFX in this scan
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For your last point, I don't see how that changes anything. Sand is simply easier to use because the single particles have much more mobility than the overall particles in the IS. It doesn't change the fact IS can tank more than than sand does, considering it is denser.
Wrong, when he uses it partially he clearly is able to move whatever is covered in domu
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So if Sasori were to resort to the great gatherings Kakuzu can easily punch it back.
Those scans don't prove Kakuzu would be able to move his entire body if he's using Domu. He only is hardening single limbs without hardening the elbow, from what we see. You can see in your second scan, he doesn't harden his entire arm, but rather a little over wrist length. Nothing suggests he would be capable of moving the already hardened part, considering he had created a fist prior to having used Doton spear.
Great gatherings don't have to be used, attacks like this can catch Kakuzu off guard and prevent him from using Doton spear in time [
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will be unavoidable by Kakuzu, hence forcing him to use his Doton spear. Furthermore, even if Kakuzu tanks it with Doton spear and gets magnetised, his hearts will still be unavoidable crushed. Once Kakuzu is magnetised, it's over for him. Sand from all directions will be forcing Kakuzu to use a near full body doton spear, heavily limiting his mobility. Once this is done, Kakuzu can either decide to keep his doton spear up, or suffer from the effects of the poison gas [
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Lol no this technique has never been proven, The way Tomoi used it is completely different from how Sasori utilizes Magnetic Style...As notice how there was IS trapped in the puppet
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yet if what you are saying was true the IS would of homed onto the puppet and be launched at it throughout the fight, yet we all know this wasn't the case
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Need i remind you that Sakura was able to come into contact with it as well, without this effect happening
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No, When the IS touches something it doesn't magnetize it like Tomoi's does, two different ability's entirely
By manga, he's magnetised once the IS touches. The iron sand has to be initially magnetised by something, just as the fourth Kazekag'es gold dust. As we all know (hopefully) gold isn't actually magnetic, yet it is still being magnetised by the Yondaime Kazekage. Same applies for Sasori, meaning he can make things magnetise if he wills. Your point is moot, a magnetic field doesn't change from one person to the other.
Still trying to use the 'Satetsu would have been attracted to the puppets', eh Zexion? Didn't I already show you that Sasori has the ability to increase and decrease or completely shut down his Magnetic fields? Or perhaps do you need to be reminded that Sasori via the Sandaime Puppet is the one controlling the magnetic fields?
Kakuzu wins my friends. I recall how many times Sakura got in touch with the magnetic sand and yet nothing happened. Kakuzu's Fuuton will blow off Sasori's puppets, enhance Katon to roast them, while the Lightning beast will do further damage and Dotonomu gives him protection from whatever Sasori throws at him. We also have a water beast out there which possibly possesses a further offensive B-Rank technique on the level of the other beasts' attacks.
Nice attempt, however, you don't understand how Jiton works. You're implying how if the Satetsu beads are still in the puppets then that means that Jiton Chakura is channelled into them and they will attract the Satetsu which is false.
a] Who are you to say that Sasori cannot control his magnetic fields and not let the Satetsu attract to the Puppets? As you can see, Toroi's Shuriken was magnetized and was touching the ground. Yet, were his Shurikens attracted to the ground? No. More so, Toroi's Shuriken weren't attracted to the Shuriken previously thrown. Your theory came crushing right there.
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b] The Sandaime and Toroi's abilities are no different. We know that both put magnetic fields into the object they are using as a weapon. Toroi puts it into his Shuriken and Sandaime puts it into his Satetsu so when an object full of Jiton Chakura hits an another object, the user's Jinton Chakura will touch and create a magnetic field inside the enemy's body.
Omg how many times do i have to prove this wrong with the same god damn thing...Sakura touched the IS yet she wasn't "magnetized with the IS" That right there proves that either he CAN'T use the same ability as toroi, or that he simply has no idea he can, either way this can not be used in debates get over it like honestly, you can spice your posts up with pointless shit that contributes nothing to your point all you want ._. he can't use it.
c] Both Toroi and the Sandaime use magnetic fields for their attacks, yet you state it's something different. No. Magnetic fields are magnetic fields. They have the same exact ability. Sorry.
They both use different magnetic fields genius ._. Its like saying all Katon users can use the same jutsu because they all use flames lol,
It states that Sasori can weave his Chakura into Magnetism so if anything comes into contact with the Satetsu and it's magnetism, Sasori will create a magnetic force around the enemy's body. Furthermore, this is all it needs to end you. Sasori tells Chiyo how 'You know very well not to block this attack, you have to dodge it!'.
Pointless garbage too make your post look good honestly U_U Magnetism is what he has shown too do with the IS. Lmao Why you assume he can use magnetized weapons is beyond me honestly Toroi had his own jutsu with the magnetic release
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One that you can not contribute to the 3rd Kazekage or Sasori, so in short, until either there is any confirmation that Sasori could use this technique, or there is a clear feat that establishes the fact this is all a falacy, in fact most feats point towards him not being able to use it , but your stubbornness clearly does not want to accept this fact,
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#Inb4: 'That only applies Puppet Masters, hurr durr' Oh, and where did Sasori or anyone else state anything about Puppets?
If Sasori really wasn't capable of magnetizing other things, then how exactly did the control the magnetized Iron Sand? Eh, Zexion?
He creates a magnetic field with chakra that he is able to control
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LMAO honestly i'm laughing at how you think that question would shut me down XD XD Stupidest thing i've heard asked all day.
And as for that quote i have said it once and i'll say it again, Sakura has already blocked the IS and nothing happened to her in the slightest. It was clearly meant towards puppets....hence why he said "YOU SHOULD KNOW"
So, if after an extensive fight of Sasori in the Manga, his win can only be argued with abilities fans hype him to have, the matter has resolved itself.
Change their flight after launch. That speaks for itself. The scans you posted didn't prove anything, Sasori was simply trying to bypass Chiyo's shield. I didn't say he will curve it away, I said he will engulf Kakuzu once it is close. It should be possible considering he has shown shape manipulation, and can create any shape, thus can create the shape of Kakuzu if he wills, or simply building up IS atop of each other on Sasori. Anyways, claiming he cannot enclose Kakuzu is rather absurd, if he can control small quantities from all directions in a horizontal axis, he can do the same but on a higher scale if he increases the IS quantity.
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and can adjust his attacks based on the terrain of the battlefield
I've heard this argument before and honestly if he could indeed encase people with IS he would be nearly unstoppable, but his control of the IS is so crude i highly doubt that he can control each particular grain of sand in such a fine motion, especially with enough quickness without Kakuzu realizing this. Nor can he simply create a giant wave of IS, as i've said before it needs to be solidified for him to control it, hence why he had to form something when he originally spawned the IS
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Even if he does encase Kakuzu his hearts would still be active and one blast of Kakuzu's fuuton is to unpredictable for Sasori to react quick enough and his Puppet would be crushed
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Note "because its expelled so suddenly its an extremely hard jutsu to anticipate" (don't know how you people crop the little captions lol)
Although I am not suggesting he has the ease Gaara does, he can certainly do the majority of the things Gaara does, albeit with less mobility, but still possible. Kakuzu's hearts get crushed by this [
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but they have shown to be running on multiple occasions. They simply jump very high, but that doesn't prevent them from getting destroyed by IS. Anyways, more proof of them jumping is the SFX in this scan
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For your last point, I don't see how that changes anything. Sand is simply easier to use because the single particles have much more mobility than the overall particles in the IS. It doesn't change the fact IS can tank more than than sand does, considering it is denser.
How are you not AC's alt ._. They clearly fly, look in the image where they are in the background they are clearly moving at a curvature in the air, which you can not do if you're merely jumping, that sfx can be explained with the simple fact that most people "who can fly of course" Jump into the air to gain momentum obviously, i also don't see how a SFX proves anything its merely saying that it sounded like jumping which sounds similar to flying if you ask me lol. They run alot because probably it takes chakra for them to fly so why would they if they needed to? I mean the wind heart has clearly shown that it can fly
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They moved forward and it was able to keep up with them and continue moving and blast a jutsu
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Something you can't do if your only jumping ._.
IS can tank a lot mor but like i said, it would be hard for Sasori to react to an attack when he himself is already attacking btw
Both of the attacks you posted can be easily evaded in the air, as they are purely linear not to mention if Sasori focuses all his IS on one or two of the hearts, Kakuzu and the other can still attack Wheras its hard for Sasori to attack simultaneously (don't bring up what he did to Sakura and Chiyo two sitting targets) When both of them were moving he could only focus on Sakura
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Those scans don't prove Kakuzu would be able to move his entire body if he's using Domu. He only is hardening single limbs without hardening the elbow, from what we see. You can see in your second scan, he doesn't harden his entire arm, but rather a little over wrist length. Nothing suggests he would be capable of moving the already hardened part, considering he had created a fist prior to having used Doton spear.
That's what i said :| And that's all he needed to tank most of what IS has to offer, only problematic ones are the bullets and spears, And look at his fingers they clearly moved from before he activated to when it was activated when he blocks the paper bomb..He can still move the part that is covered, Don't try to make this more complicated then it already is.
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Great gatherings don't have to be used, attacks like this can catch Kakuzu off guard and prevent him from using Doton spear in time [
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will be unavoidable by Kakuzu, hence forcing him to use his Doton spear. Furthermore, even if Kakuzu tanks it with Doton spear and gets magnetised, his hearts will still be unavoidable crushed.
There is no magnetized >.> And besides Kakuzu can go underground to avoid most of the ISWO
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There is absolutely no reason he can't go under with his full body, and he was clearly capable of digging through the ground at tremendous speeds. His hearts may even be able to do this as well, but they can simply fly over the Blocks when they merge, not to mention this attack is sometimes overhyped look how it barely damaged Sakura
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The masks which are entirely made of threads have the luxury of allowing the spears from ISWO to penetrate them on the side or anywhere there mask isn't making the chance that it delivers a fatal hit extremely slim.
Once Kakuzu is magnetised, it's over for him. Sand from all directions will be forcing Kakuzu to use a near full body doton spear, heavily limiting his mobility. Once this is done, Kakuzu can either decide to keep his doton spear up, or suffer from the effects of the poison gas [
Ignoring this bull shit, as IS does not magentise, and he has fuuton which easily blows away any poison gas.
Magnetism still works
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By manga, he's magnetised once the IS touches. The iron sand has to be initially magnetised by something, just as the fourth Kazekag'es gold dust. As we all know (hopefully) gold isn't actually magnetic, yet it is still being magnetised by the Yondaime Kazekage. Same applies for Sasori, meaning he can make things magnetise if he wills. Your point is moot, a magnetic field doesn't change from one person to the other.
So, if after an extensive fight of Sasori in the Manga, his win can only be argued with abilities fans hype him to have, the matter has resolved itself.
I've heard this argument before and honestly if he could indeed encase people with IS he would be nearly unstoppable, but his control of the IS is so crude i highly doubt that he can control each particular grain of sand in such a fine motion, especially with enough quickness without Kakuzu realizing this. Nor can he simply create a giant wave of IS, as i've said before it needs to be solidified for him to control it, hence why he had to form something when he originally spawned the IS
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Even if he does encase Kakuzu his hearts would still be active and one blast of Kakuzu's fuuton is to unpredictable for Sasori to react quick enough and his Puppet would be crushed
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Note "because its expelled so suddenly its an extremely hard jutsu to anticipate" (don't know how you people crop the little captions lol)
I will be making my counter convenient for both of us, since I don't want to run around in circles in regards to the magnetism and flying masks. Anyways, he can do it, and nothing suggests he can't. You constantly claim he has crude control over it, and can't use it like Gaara. However, I would like to inform you people often overlook the fact that the iron sand is being magnetised here [
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My point was that Sasori will destroy the four hearts, and then take on Kakuzu. This is accomplished by Iron Sand world. If it hit someone who had reaction and speed equal to Sakura's, then it's hitting the fearless reaction speed masks, possibly in the heart. Moreover, I have already said
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takes out any mask effortlessly, and isn't being punched back due to how thin it is. Atsugai won't be used when the Futon mask is dead.
How are you not AC's alt ._. They clearly fly, look in the image where they are in the background they are clearly moving at a curvature in the air, which you can not do if you're merely jumping, that sfx can be explained with the simple fact that most people "who can fly of course" Jump into the air to gain momentum obviously, i also don't see how a SFX proves anything its merely saying that it sounded like jumping which sounds similar to flying if you ask me lol. They run alot because probably it takes chakra for them to fly so why would they if they needed to? I mean the wind heart has clearly shown that it can fly
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They moved forward and it was able to keep up with them and continue moving and blast a jutsu
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Something you can't do if your only jumping ._.
IS can tank a lot mor but like i said, it would be hard for Sasori to react to an attack when he himself is already attacking btw
Nothing suggests they fly, everything suggests they jump. The scan you presented is usable against you, providing me further evidence they don't fly. How? You posted this scan of the mask jumping, and using Atsugai. He was shown in mid-air, and the very next page he's standing still. How can you know what happened in-between these panels. How can you know if he didn't go right back down to where he initially jumped, since we can't see where he was initially in the first place. Too many unknowns do no equal a feat. Jumping doesn't sound similar to flying. Jumping creates a sound from pushing against the floor. Flying doesn't necessarily require strength, hence is silent. And why would that be? Nothing suggests he cannot use iron sand in two different quantities of IS, considering he created several different Iron sand blocks simultaneously.
Both of the attacks you posted can be easily evaded in the air, as they are purely linear not to mention if Sasori focuses all his IS on one or two of the hearts, Kakuzu and the other can still attack Wheras its hard for Sasori to attack simultaneously (don't bring up what he did to Sakura and Chiyo two sitting targets) When both of them were moving he could only focus on Sakura
Once again, your points are positive for my side more than yours. Sasori was trying to create a diversion attack, with two different IS attacks. One can clearly see he used [
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That's what i said :| And that's all he needed to tank most of what IS has to offer, only problematic ones are the bullets and spears, And look at his fingers they clearly moved from before he activated to when it was activated when he blocks the paper bomb..He can still move the part that is covered, Don't try to make this more complicated then it already is.
They didn't move lmao. Anyways, the scan you presented, is for the third time in my favour. His hand was around his waist. When he was blocking the Explosive kunai, his hand didn't change posture at all. I don't know where you are getting all these ideas. Because you wanted that to have happened or because you aren't looking properly.
There is no magnetized >.> And besides Kakuzu can go underground to avoid most of the ISWO
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There is absolutely no reason he can't go under with his full body, and he was clearly capable of digging through the ground at tremendous speeds. His hearts may even be able to do this as well, but they can simply fly over the Blocks when they merge, not to mention this attack is sometimes overhyped look how it barely damaged Sakura
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The masks which are entirely made of threads have the luxury of allowing the spears from ISWO to penetrate them on the side or anywhere there mask isn't making the chance that it delivers a fatal hit extremely slim.
As you can see, he converts his chakra into magnetism. This would mean if Sasori were to use a chakra thread on Kakuzu, he could convert it to magnetism, and baammmm. Yes, indeed a genius thought. Only because Kakuzu doesn't co-operate doesn't mean the chakra thread won't be placed. If Sasori were to place 10 strings, magnetise, and do this over a few times. Kakuzu would be using Doton: magnetise from then on, and be getting shitted on, since the IS can be released in its non formed state, and engulf Kakuzu, tbh countless things can be done from that point. Saying the chance is slim is absurd. You claim they will jump, that will increase the likelihood of them being hit since there's more connections in a smaller space the higher you go. Anyways, Sasori can always use iron sand drizzle and thousand hands technique. The thousand hands can create poison, and once Kakuzu is back up from underground, he will inhale it considering he has no knowledge of it being present. kunai anchor can catch one of the masks blinded by the poison cloud, and give room for Sasori to kill it.
Masks aren't dodging or jumping over ISWO.. No chance at all. Kakuzu fully going underground isn't a feat. His threads can, but his body has not shown such a capability. Anyways, it doesn't change the fact that if he merges his masks are still vulnerable. I have already stated Sasori will only use it to kill off the masks. Chances are, at least one dies. From then on, he could still kill one with the mass gathering I have linked previously.
Ignoring this bull shit, as IS does not magentise, and he has fuuton which easily blows away any poison gas.
You realize that it was a specific jutsu toroi was using do you not? One that Sasori does not have...you people need to realize this lmao
Manget release is a keg. It won't differ from person to person. Sasori cannot magnetise unless he has his chakra convert to magnetism on the substance he wants to magnetise. If chakra threads are used on Kakuzu and his masks, Sasori can convert it to magnetism and kill them.
