Sasori vs Ay

DrProof

Kage in the Making 👑
Legendary
Joined
Aug 24, 2012
Messages
12,019
Reaction score
1,476
I don't know much about either character, but from AkatsukiChurche's Sasori thread awhile back I know that Sasori can go aerial etc. But if Ay can actually travel 100m/s then Ay should probably win here.

But then again, do melee attacks truly work against Sasori's body structure? Seeing as Sakura smashed his entire body, and he assimilated in a near instant.

Either side has their chances imo. You have to look @ it from both angles rather than from just one.
 

Curse Mark

Sannin of the Scrolls 📜
Elite
Joined
Nov 24, 2012
Messages
7,750
Reaction score
204
It really wouldn't be hard to believe Ay can move 100 m/s in V2. Like I already said the human record is like 9 and 1/2 seconds.
 

Claymantan

Anbu Operative 🎭
Veteran
Joined
Mar 22, 2016
Messages
2,712
Reaction score
229
It really wouldn't be hard to believe Ay can move 100 m/s in V2. Like I already said the human record is like 9 and 1/2 seconds.

We'd need a scan similar to the Gaara at the Kage Summit scan in order to really estimate it. Like, his movement speed compared to the known movement speed of something else (if he intercepted something that was falling, for example, and we knew or could approximate the distance he started from).

100 m/s is a very different thing from ~10 m/s though, so I would really be hesitant to say that he can move that fast without proving it. No one should just assume that kind of speed.
 

Curse Mark

Sannin of the Scrolls 📜
Elite
Joined
Nov 24, 2012
Messages
7,750
Reaction score
204
We'd need a scan similar to the Gaara at the Kage Summit scan in order to really estimate it. Like, his movement speed compared to the known movement speed of something else (if he intercepted something that was falling, for example, and we knew or could approximate the distance he started from).

100 m/s is a very different thing from ~10 m/s though, so I would really be hesitant to say that he can move that fast without proving it. No one should just assume that kind of speed.

Okay that's fair. I don't think it's unfair to assume that V2 is at least 10 times faster than the fastest human sprint though.
 

Brother Numpsay

Sannin of the Scrolls 📜
Elite
Joined
Sep 27, 2012
Messages
7,879
Reaction score
334
-Iron Sand never hits Ay.

And Ay never hits Sasori without breaching his defense, if this is the type of argument it leads to.

-This late into the game and we are still arguing that Sasori can magically attract all metallic objects? :lol. He. Needs. To. Touch. Ay's. Weaponry. To. Pull. Him. In.

Its been 3 years into this and you still dont get how it works. Your begging the context of one small statement made from Sasori, yet alone the function of an other Jiton user from another village. Its pathetic. Kazekage chakra controls magnetic forces, period. Toroi is applied different. Kazekage manipulation is based on Shukaku/its Jinjiruki's jutsu. Toroi is not. Manga and Databook says IS possess powerful magnetic properties. So my claim supports the notion that Kazkage encounter with anything thats magnetic, can be drawn it like it was as it was Iron sand. It also supports the notion that IS blocks can be used as a magnetic block, to attract anything that Ferromagnetism. In fact, even Diamagnetism (weakness attraction) based on Rasa:

You must be registered for see images


--Sasori doesn't react to Ay's top speed. He barely reacts to Ay's regular speed if Ay is in close range.

Irrelevant as I mention before ""If he cant track him then create a way of not being touched".

@Underline lmao exactly, so
1.)You knew the starting distance isnt close range in this thread
2.)You at least understand that Sasori can at least react to V1 by blocking.

And yet try to front with dumb statements of him being an obvious loser along with your misconception of Kazekage's magnetic prowess.

Ay dashes at Sasori and obliterates him. End of story.

Lmao, so apparently we can't read manga now:

You must be registered for see images

You must be registered for see images


Even though all thats needed to block V1 Ay is mental reaction, and the same response in defense since:

You must be registered for see images

2. The option of going above skies, forcing Ay to attack mid air, and no escape coming down.

Fin.
 

Beans2

Sannin of the Scrolls 📜
Elite
Joined
Mar 12, 2014
Messages
8,937
Reaction score
462
Nah bruh. Sasori will already be too high. What's incorrect in what you said in countering said situation is this: "Sasori can't hurt him @ a distance" or that he uses the Iron Sand blocks as a stepping stone. Sasori will attack with a multitude of small bullet-like Iron Sand assaults so that they're near impossible to dodge (similar to how Shino's insect attack was near impossible to dodge against Tobi, who only evaded through S/T).

AoE > Speedsters. It's a known common fact. Ay cannot dodge thousands of Iron Sand bullets moving at or greater the speed of > sound barrier breakage.

Wrong
Tiny iron sand bullets are easily tanked considering how they were tanked by which is way less durable than Ay is considering how a direct chidori barely scratched him

Not like they will even hit Ay anyway, since he can shunshin outside the attack's AOE lol diff, Sasori can't even track V2 Ay so he wouldnt know where to direct his attack in the first place and he's never displayed having a large enough amount of iron sand to where he can nail him w/ an attack.
 

KidGamer65

Legendary Shinobi 🐸
Supreme
Joined
Aug 5, 2012
Messages
38,776
Reaction score
2,272
And Ay never hits Sasori without breaching his defense, if this is the type of argument it leads to.

Sasori has no defense that Ay can't breach, nor can Sasori even put up a defense that even stands a chance of tanking Ay before Ay gets in his face.


Its been 3 years into this and you still dont get how it works. Your begging the context of one small statement made from Sasori, yet alone the function of an other Jiton user from another village. Its pathetic. Kazekage chakra controls magnetic forces, period. Toroi is applied different. Kazekage manipulation is based on Shukaku/its Jinjiruki's jutsu. Toroi is not. Manga and Databook says IS possess powerful magnetic properties. So my claim supports the notion that Kazkage encounter with anything thats magnetic, can be drawn it like it was as it was Iron sand. It also supports the notion that IS blocks can be used as a magnetic block, to attract anything that Ferromagnetism. In fact, even Diamagnetism (weakness attraction) based on Rasa:

Look. My tolerance for you tards is at an all time low. Databook saying that is irrelevant when you are taking that statement and, as usual, misinterpreting it to fit your nonsense argument. Databook states that he has Magnet Release. Databook doesn't state that he can attract all magnetic items with said Magnet Release without actually magnetizing them first and I'll just wait for you to provide something that even comes close to being a form of valid evidence before I continue arguing this nonsense.



Irrelevant as I mention before ""If he cant track him then create a way of not being touched".

@Underline lmao exactly, so
1.)You knew the starting distance isnt close range in this thread
2.)You at least understand that Sasori can at least react to V1 by blocking.

And yet try to front with dumb statements of him being an obvious loser along with your misconception of Kazekage's magnetic prowess.

1. Irrelevant. Once that distance is closed Sasori is still left with the fact that he can't even come close to following Ay's speed.


Lmao, so apparently we can't read manga now:

You must be registered for see images

You must be registered for see images


Even though all thats needed to block V1 Ay is mental reaction, and the same response in defense since:
You must be registered for see images
[/QUOTE]

And then Ay rinses and repeats until he realizes that he needs to smash the core you clown. Obviously I know about Sasori's abilities so why are you wasting time telling me how they work? :lol

2. The option of going above skies, forcing Ay to attack mid air, and no escape coming down.

Fin.

And tell me how he gets into the sky with Ay constantly on his tail?

Oh wait, he doesn't. :lol We can stop with the stupid match ups now.
 

TRE MERCER

Kage in the Making 👑
Legendary
Joined
May 13, 2014
Messages
13,251
Reaction score
487
Iron sand and poison cloud GG.
Iron sand is never landing. Early Shippuden Sakura had enough physical strength to send his Iron sand projectiles back v2 Ei does this with no problem. Sasori gets blitzed before he even realizes what happens.

Please don't mention the 100 puppets Sakura taijutsu skills put those puppets to shame. The level of rape capacity can't even be put in words what Ei would do to those things.
 
Last edited:

Dannie

/
Immortal
Joined
Mar 10, 2014
Messages
47,160
Reaction score
2,798
Damn you guise be turntup in these versus threads.
 

Brother Numpsay

Sannin of the Scrolls 📜
Elite
Joined
Sep 27, 2012
Messages
7,879
Reaction score
334
Sasori has no defense that Ay can't breach, nor can Sasori even put up a defense that even stands a chance of tanking Ay before Ay gets in his face.

@Bold:I dont need to prove or disprove if he could or couldn't. As all I know that, all it takes is to make a defense lethal, with Ay is damaging himself along the way. So breaching becomes in vain.

Lol what, unless you saying he starts off the bat with V2, then he clearly has the chance in creating a sand defense, that forms by mental reaction(formulates faster then Gaara's sand). Especially in 100 freaking meters.

Look. My tolerance for you tards is at an all time low. Databook saying that is irrelevant when you are taking that statement and, as usual, misinterpreting it to fit your nonsense argument. Databook states that he has Magnet Release. Databook doesn't state that he can attract all magnetic items with said Magnet Release without actually magnetizing them first and I'll just wait for you to provide something that even comes close to being a form of valid evidence before I continue arguing this nonsense.

And you think I have the same patients going back of 3 years from this discussion over and over? Lol come correct. What is there to prove since you outright Lol made my point @ Bold/Underline. If nothing in manga supports your bold claim. Then. You. Have. No. Point. And the claims I made are relevant and correct interpretation.

Did manga said Kazekage replicated Shukaku/Jinjiruki jutsu? Yup, so the same way Gaara can manipulate his sand and outside sources of sand can be control. The same way Kazekage can do with his magnetic field from IS to magnetic field, reaching out to ninja tools.

Why bring up Rasa? DB gives up more detail on him copying the 3rds KKG and its usage, as I already linked. Meaning they do the same thing with their chakra, regardless of them both having different sand.

Why is the sand they use irrelevant and doesn't determine Kazekage's KKG functioning to specific sand?[ ] Iron sand (3rd) to make a name of himself by prowess (deadliest sand jutsu), while Rasa uses his gold specifically to subdue Shukaku (cause of its weight) and financial support for the village (already added Rasa Bio), etc.

So enough of this crap that it needs to touch other metal to make it magnetic. That Toroi's jutsu, never stated to be the Kazekage's.

1. Irrelevant. Once that distance is closed Sasori is still left with the fact that he can't even come close to following Ay's speed.

Irrelevant since Sasori lethal defense keeps him safe, and increasing the speed flight and AoE of IS offense forces him to use up alot of V2 chakra, till he decides to breach his lethal defense. Which is GG from there.

And then Ay rinses and repeats until he realizes that he needs to smash the core you clown. Obviously I know about Sasori's abilities so why are you wasting time telling me how they work? :lol

That only scenario for that to happen is to outlast the Kakzekage's jutsu/chakra. Ay's speed eventually slows down, low on chakra to go V2, and his blitz becomes so repetitive that they would literally exchange blows at that point.

And tell me how he gets into the sky with Ay constantly on his tail?

Oh wait, he doesn't. :lol We can stop with the stupid match ups now.

Oh wait he does. Since when is being on his tail going to stop the sands movements, which is capable of multitasking. lmao. Ay even think about touching a defense lethal spells out "poison" .You can stay log off now.
 

RedRobin

Kage in the Making 👑
Legendary
Joined
Mar 27, 2014
Messages
12,929
Reaction score
834
So much BS in this thread but I am not surprised. Its not likely Sasori wins this but speed blitz, no.
  • This is manga intel. As far as I know Ay doesnt know jackshit about Sasori, his arsenal or puppets. Puppet masters are all about having tricks and things up their sleeve.
  • Ay does not know about the core and he does not know how puppet masters fight.
  • Sure he destroys Hiruko or even Sasori's body but Sakura also took a punch to it and did not exactly smash it to pieces. It can reform quite easily.
  • Remember the time he snapped White Zestu's neck and thought he was done with well the same thing happens here, he smashes Sasori and will think its over and not think twice.
  • Sasori is way smarter than Ay. Within the first 10 seconds of the match Sasori will have all the information he needs on Ay and Ay would think its over.
 
Last edited:
Top