Sarada vs Boruto.

[Icelerate]

Sasuke has Sharingan in base. Naruto doesn't have Kyuubi in base.

Naruto still stomps so my point still stands.

 

[KidGamer65]

Boruto being a prodigy doesn't mean he's stronger than Sarada. Sasuke was a prodigy unlike Naruto yet Naruto is stronger. Kakashi is a prodigy unlike Gai yet it isn't clear that Kakashi is stronger. Should I bring up more examples? What feats or hype does Mitsuki have?

OT: Sarada actually has combat feats unlike Boruto and she has the one tomoe sharingan. Not to mention that when it comes to bloodlide, Sarada is 50% Uzumaki and 50% Uchiha. Boruto is 25%Uzumaki and 50% Hyuuga. Clearly 50% Uzumaki>25% Uzumaki and Uchiha>Hyuuga.

That's exactly what it means. If he's the prodigy of the group, then he's the strongest. That's a fact. As you yourself mentioned, your examples are irrelevant because it refers to people who were weaker at the time the prodigy was known as the prodigy surpassing said prodigy.

Mitsuki was said to be shrouded in mystery. That's why he has the potential to be much stronger than he initially looks. Sarada? Nope. Not now at least. Genetics is an irrelevant point, not to mention Sarada having combat feats while Boruto doesn't changes nothing about the outcome of the fight.

Sasuke also has his eyes. Take both away, Naruto is still stronger. I can agree that Boruto will probably be stronger earlier on as most of my examples I have in my head have the prodigy being much stronger at a younger age but can be surpassed later on. Sarada probably has the greater peak. Chocho is shown way more than Mitsuki so I don't see how showing Mitsuki with the other two means he is noteworthy or strong. Sakura is also noteworthy and is often shown alongside Naruto, Sasuke and Kakashi but does that mean she's that strong? Absolutely not.

Sarada having the greater peak is unlikely when looking back on Sasuke and Naruto. What is it even based off of? She has no siblings as of now, so EMS is out of the question. That leaves her with MS at best. Boruto has the means to at least match her if she has an MS given his father can match Sasuke w/ only an MS at the very least.

You can't fool genetics. 50% will always be better than 25%. And it's the same when it comes to genetic traits and heritage.

Yet you can't explain why Boruto's 25% is inferior to Sarada's 50% when it comes to the actual gains from said DNA.

Chakra Chains aren't something you can learn. It's something Uzumaki women release when they're in a state of extreme emotional overflow. Manga fact. Karin didn't even know she could use that and it's not like Orochimaru would experiment on Karin to find the source of her Chakra Chains if she could simply learn it.

Not sure who told you it's something only women could learn, but it definitely wasn't the Manga.

Boruto should be fodder.

Baseless and very foolish assumption at best given the same guy with the fodder "Namikaze genes" is one of the strongest people in the verse. Sure, you can claim Boruto's genetics are inferior to Sarada's, but saying Boruto should be fodder is probably the dumbest thing I've heard all day.

His 50% Hyuuga blood is fodder because he didn't even inherit Byakugan lol. It's like being an Uchiha without Sharingan. Sorry but that's fodder to me. Namikaze only brings him down even more.

1. Hyuuga's have stronger chakra than regular shinobi. That's a plus one for Boruto right there,

2. Boruto has the Uzumaki genes that grant him a strong life force and vitality. That's another point.

His father and his grandfather both had the ability to learn Sage Mode. That's another ability for Boruto.

Boruto's the prodigy of the group despite you saying "he should be fodder". Then you attribute it to an asspull which is unneeded and baseless since having superior genes doesn't mean you'll be stronger.

 

[Nattana]

Boruto's the prodigy of the group despite you saying "he should be fodder". Then you attribute it to an asspull which is unneeded and baseless since having superior genes doesn't mean you'll be stronger.

This manga was about genetic heritage. From the very first chapter. Blood and genes are everything. You can argue it but it won't change the fact that one Uchiha with Sharingan at its peak can solo hundreds of adult Hyuuga with Byakugan.

Uchiha >>>>>>>>> Hyuuga. And always will be.
50% Uzumaki > 25% Uzumaki.

And even if the genes distribution is not that even, it won't change the fact that Uchiha > Hyuuga, Namikaze and Uzumaki, and that Uzumaki > Hyuuga and Namikaze. Which means that Sarada's genes are superior to Boruto's in every possible configuration.

 

[Icelerate]

That's exactly what it means. If he's the prodigy of the group, then he's the strongest. That's a fact. As you yourself mentioned, your examples are irrelevant because it refers to people who were weaker at the time the prodigy was known as the prodigy surpassing said prodigy.

Being a prodigy doesn't necessarily mean being the strongest. I'm pretty sure Madara is more of a prodigy than Kaguya, does this make Madara stronger? Explain the bold as it makes no sense. Also where in the manga was it stated Boruto is a prodigy? I must have missed it.

Mitsuki was said to be shrouded in mystery. That's why he has the potential to be much stronger than he initially looks. Sarada? Nope. Not now at least. Genetics is an irrelevant point, not to mention Sarada having combat feats while Boruto doesn't changes nothing about the outcome of the fight.

I must have missed this as well. Where did the bold come from? Genetics might be irrelevant, but we don't have much to go off of.
I mentioned feats just to solidify my point. Not because a person without feats can't be stronger.

Sarada having the greater peak is unlikely when looking back on Sasuke and Naruto. What is it even based off of? She has no siblings as of now, so EMS is out of the question. That leaves her with MS at best. Boruto has the means to at least match her if she has an MS given his father can match Sasuke w/ only an MS at the very least.

MS + Byakogou>sage mode + gentle fist. Not saying they are individually superior but as a combination, it surely is.

 

[TheEvilOne]

Not enough information at this point of the manga.

 

[KidGamer65]

This manga was about genetic heritage. From the very first chapter. Blood and genes are everything. You can argue it but it won't change the fact that one Uchiha with Sharingan at its peak can solo hundreds of adult Hyuuga with Byakugan.

Uchiha >>>>>>>>> Hyuuga. And always will be.
50% Uzumaki > 25% Uzumaki.

And even if the genes distribution is not that even, it won't change the fact that Uchiha > Hyuuga, Namikaze and Uzumaki, and that Uzumaki > Hyuuga and Namikaze. Which means that Sarada's genes are superior to Boruto's in every possible configuration.

Except I don't care about that. I care about who's stronger, which is something I clearly mentioned. Lmao. You literally have zero point here.

1. Genetic traits being the only determinant of strength is once again, the dumbest thing I've heard today. Not when we have to take into account abilities.

2. Bold is irrelevant as we aren't talking about a pure Hyuuga.

When you can actually prove that Sarada having superior genes means that she will be stronger, then we can talk. If you just going to harp on this genes nonsense, then stop now. Cause you make no sense.

Minato and Tobirama. Minato is stronger if the latter doesn't have ET. But oh wait, he has fodder genes. Lmao. Nail one in the coffin where your point resides.

Minato and MS Sasuke. Minato is stronger.

Sage Mode Naruto and MS Sasuke. Naruto is stronger. W/o Kurama's intervention or abilities, he's left with half fodder genes, yet he can perfectly match in combat and possibly defeat the guy with pure Uchiha blood.


Gai is stronger than all of the aforementioned and he has no special genes. It's your abilities. That simple.

Being a prodigy doesn't necessarily mean being the strongest. I'm pretty sure Madara is more of a prodigy than Kaguya, does this make Madara stronger? Explain the bold as it makes no sense. Also where in the manga was it stated Boruto is a prodigy? I must have missed it.

That's exactly what it means. Lmao. Once again, your example doesn't make sense.

1. You know nothing about Kaguya's past to talk about whether or not she was a prodigy.

2. Kaguya became super powerful from getting a fruit. Nobody we are talking about, definitely not Sarada, has that luxury.

-Neji was called a prodigy.
-Sasuke was called a prodigy.
-Kakashi was called a prodigy.

They were all near the top. Kakashi was the only one referred to as a prodigy, and he was the strongest of his whole group. Being the only prodigy of the group means that you are strongest and most talented of said group.

I'm saying that your example refers to the people who were weaker than the prodigy, at the time he was known as the prodigy, who surpassed said prodigy later on.

I must have missed this as well. Where did the bold come from? Genetics might be irrelevant, but we don't have much to go off of.
I mentioned feats just to solidify my point. Not because a person without feats can't be stronger.

It was stated somewhere on one of the SaiyanIsland articles, same thing with Boruto being a prodigy thing, which has also been seen on many threads on NB, specifically ones made by Indra. Shouldn't be too hard to find.

MS + Byakogou>sage mode + gentle fist. Not saying they are individually superior but as a combination, it surely is.

All depends on the abilities Boruto gets since Sage Mode is nothing but an amplifier. Same with Sarada and her MS.

 

[Nattana]

Minato and MS Sasuke. Minato is stronger.

Sage Mode Naruto and MS Sasuke. Naruto is stronger. W/o Kurama's intervention or abilities, he's left with half fodder genes, yet he can perfectly match in combat and possibly defeat the guy with pure Uchiha blood.

Lol. Seriously? Both Boruto and Sarada can learn Sage Mode, while Boruto can't get Sharingan and he didn't even inherit Byakugan.

Sarada HAS better genes and you can't deny it.

 

[KidGamer65]

Lol. Seriously? Both Boruto and Sarada can learn Sage Mode, while Boruto can't get Sharingan and he didn't even inherit Byakugan.

Sarada HAS better genes and you can't deny it.

Smh. For the love of God and everything that is holy. Please read before you reply. Where did I say that Sarada didn't have better genes? Oh wait, nowhere. What I have said, multiple times now, is that your point makes zero sense. Determining power via genes is foolish. Manga has shown that how many times now?

Sarada being able to learn Sage Mode is an assumption on your part. A pretty baseless one at that. Care to share where the basis for that argument came from?

 

[Nattana]

Smh. For the love of God and everything that is holy. Please read before you reply. Where did I say that Sarada didn't have better genes? Oh wait, nowhere. What I have said, multiple times now, is that your point makes zero sense. Determining power via genes is foolish. Manga has shown that how many times now?

Sarada being able to learn Sage Mode is an assumption on your part. A pretty baseless one at that. Care to share where the basis for that argument came from?

As much of an assumption as Boruto learning Sage Mode.

 

[KidGamer65]

As much of an assumption as Boruto learning Sage Mode.

Never said he would. Lmao. I said he had the potential to, which is based off of the fact that he has the Uzumaki vitality and the fact that his father and his grandfather had the chakra to learn it. Where is this Sarada nonsense coming from?

 

[LuckyMan]

As much of an assumption as Boruto learning Sage Mode.

Bolt comes from a lineage with Sage Mode users. Sarada doesn't, so he has a point there, your claim is a bit baseless.

 

[-Akuma-]

Sasuke also has his eyes. Take both away, Naruto is still stronger. I can agree that Boruto will probably be stronger earlier on as most of my examples I have in my head have the prodigy being much stronger at a younger age but can be surpassed later on. Sarada probably has the greater peak. Chocho is shown way more than Mitsuki so I don't see how showing Mitsuki with the other two means he is noteworthy or strong. Sakura is also noteworthy and is often shown alongside Naruto, Sasuke and Kakashi but does that mean she's that strong? Absolutely not.

Take away the sharingan from BoS Sasuke and the Kyuubi from BoS Baruto and Sasuke wins. My point wasn't that Sarada won't surpass Boruto (which I doubt she will) my point is Boruto should be CURRENTLY stronger. Mitsuki seems like the most relevant out if the kids bar Boruto and Sarada, Cho cho has shown more because Mitsuki hasn't done shit it's all speculation.

 

[Nattana]

Never said he would. Lmao. I said he had the potential to, which is based off of the fact that he has the Uzumaki vitality and the fact that his father and his grandfather had the chakra to learn it. Where is this Sarada nonsense coming from?

Bolt comes from a lineage with Sage Mode users. Sarada doesn't, so he has a point there, your claim is a bit baseless.

Like this had anything to do with learning Sage Mode. You either do it or not. Just because Boruto's father and grandpa learnt it doesn't mean he can as well.

He most likely will learn it anyway, but my point is that Sage Mode is something you can learn, while genetic heritage is something you either have or not. And in that field Sarada >>>>> Boruto.

 

[LuckyMan]

Like this had anything to do with learning Sage Mode. You either do it or not. Just because Boruto's father and grandpa learnt it doesn't mean he can as well.

He most likely will learn it anyway, but my point is that Sage Mode is something you can learn, while genetic heritage is something you either have or not. And in that field Sarada >>>>> Boruto.

I know what you're saying but the odds of Bolt learning it are far greater than Sarada learning it.

No one knows whose genetics are better yet. It is highly possible that Sarada didn't even inherit Uzumaki vitality like Bolt didn't inherit the Hyugas Byakugan. I think you're jumping the gun and should wait before making threads like this.

 

[KidGamer65]

Like this had anything to do with learning Sage Mode. You either do it or not. Just because Boruto's father and grandpa learnt it doesn't mean he can as well.

Um. Lmao. Once again, I have to tell you to READ before you reply. I clearly stated why he can learn Sage Mode in the future. Because his father and his grandfather had the chakra reserves to learn it, and he's an Uzumaki.

He most likely will learn it anyway, but my point is that Sage Mode is something you can learn, while genetic heritage is something you either have or not. And in that field Sarada >>>>> Boruto.

You stated that Boruto should be fodder and that Boruto should logically be weaker because his genetic heritage is inferior. Please don't abandon these points now that you have realized how foolish they sound. Defend them, which would be dumb. Or properly concede.

 

[King Of Pop]

discounting genetics and any prodigy hype sarada takes it as of now imo. she has 1t and has done something in battle even though minor. when boruto shows something other than 1 shadow clone then ill consider him. until then and based on what has been shown(hes been somewhat neglected), sarada is slightly ahead of him.

 

[Conspirator.]

Boruto should win.

 

[konoha Sev7n]

Boruto for the win... Dispite everything Sarada would slowly be more useful as she be joining Boruto as this Comrade on this journeys..as he would knowledge her for fighting on this side..