Sarada: the most versatile out of new gen?

[Jiren]

Jesus guys they are all versatile.

 

[lndra]

My point remains: Buntan didn't have to recreat.

The fact that Buntan didn't move while two did is the point.

Shizuma didn't really need to move against it. :| Bolt is faster than Shizuma, well known fact, but he countered it with Jutsu. Being faster doesn't mean you'll always succeed. Ninjutsu/Kenjutsu can also counter Taijutsu, if you must know.

A few things wrong here:

1. Shizuma was at a considerable distance from Bolt, as he had to travel past the group to him.
2. Shizuma had the necessary reaction speed to counter the technique, whereas everyone else didn't

Buntan could do the same. She has plethora of Raiton techniques, some of which she probably don't need hand-signs to utilize.

1. Buntan never showed any capabilities of doing the same
2. All of Buntan's technique showed she needed hand seals. Outside of her lightning armor, I believe.

But I guess that wouldn't make sense since you need hand sign to copy ninjutsu, so maybe I'm wrong.

You won't admit that the Shurikens were fast. Come on now.
Okay.

Just bring me a statement from the Anime that states his shurikens were fast, because it sounds like hard core fan fiction like this argument or aka excuse pile I'm reading.

He can handle him, what's your point?

Shizuma doesn't need anyone, is the point.

No word from Buntan.

It doesn't really matter. The one person who actually moved, after he passed him, said he was scared.

Whilst Buntan didn't even react to it, while everyone else did.

Shizuma and Buntan are the strongest there, and it's portrayed that way.

Buntan was never portrayed as the strongest, not once. It was always Shizuma and Kagura.

Kagura being the best, stated by Shizuma himself, that he could take them all down when they were getting the Mist Swords.

We dunno how fast Buntan is since her fight with Salad was Ninjutsu-based, but we saw how proficient she is in sword style.

We already saw her failure against Gale Palm so we can say for fact that her speed is lackluster.

Bolt has foot speed, but Buntan has arm speed since she's a Kenjutsu practitioner, and you don't need to move when you got a sword to swing and some OP Raiton techs you don't need hand-signs to use after you've weaved for them once.

The minute that Boruto utilizes Gale Palm, as shown in the Anime, Buntan wouldn't be capable of dodging or reacting to it. And he would be game over.

When did I say Buntan was better than Bolt? I only said if she could see his speed and still want to fight him, then she's confident she can handle it, and she seemed very confident to me, and Sakura looks like she's gonna shit herself there.

You stated that since Buntan wanted to fight Bolt, it meant something important, but it doesn't.

Sakura was pretty confident in going to attack Sasuke here.

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She was determined.

In any case, when Rock Lee showed up to fight Sasuke. Both Sasuke/Naruto were eager to test him out, both worthlessly got their asses handed to him. This isn't an argument, it's just an excuse.

 

[Azarath Metrion Zinthos]

You said Ukyo Kodachi made this, and he doesn't. I don't care for your excuses on this matter. Whether they are approved or not isn't my concern on the matter.

I never mentioned Ukyo. I said the author, and I was speaking in general. I'm not well-versed in Databooks and shit as of yet, but Databooks have never been questioned b4. It's not an issue of canon and filler.

Databooks are always legitimate.

I'm talking about the 'STATS' -- I mean do I really have to point out what's wrong with them?

Have I not discussed the issue already? Wtf :lol

Stats are legit. Doesn't matter what you think.

If they don't correlate with the story, then they become questionable. Kishimoto's DB never had to be re-evulated in this case, whereas the VB have had a negative feedback since Team 7 was introduced.

The story hasn't even unfolded much yet. We still haven't got anything on 'current' Konohamaru's intelligence feats, and so far he seems to know a ton of shit. He even knows about all of the Sharingan's abilities, which he confidently told Sarada about, so far he hasn't contradicted what's been stated of him.

Well, this is Boruto, which will obviously be the same as Naruto. I mean, the power-scale has been upped a notch, and now we've got Boruto who was able to over-power Momoshiki with the Big Ball Rasengan. I mean, WTF. Momoshiki should have been able to push back Bolt's Rasengan, regardless of how powerful it was, and both techniques were portrayed to be about the same in level of power, but I digress. :lol

You don't really need to know anything about the series to come to a conclusion if Konohamaru/Moegi can outperform Demi-Gods and a Neo-Sanin. Naruto, Sakura, and Sasuke are >>>> Those two, yet the stats beg to differ.

Have you seen current Konohamaru or Moegi fight? No, so you don't know what you're talking about. The stats are based on their current ability, which we haven't seen. Unless you have anything to disprove them based on their Boruto feats? Of course you can't.

Do you honestly think Adult Konohamaru, who is fighting Ao, is going to compare to Sasuke vs. all of his opponents? Ao is a high Jonin at best, mind us.

Author >
me and you.

Author does care though. Because no where has Sasuke been seen in a worse light than Konohamaru.

Adult Konohamaru and teen Konohamaru aren't the same characters, and the Databook is based on Adult Konohamaru.

Naruto is incredibly tactical when he wants to be.

Read my comment. He has some tactic ability and smarts, but intelligence-wise, he's shown to lack. And my point is intelligence doesn't matter when it comes to combat-ability, which is why Konohamaru's intelligence doesn't really matter. Sasuke would still beat his ass.

Gonna repost this because I just can't get into this right now:

TL; DR.

Doesn't really matter to me because Naruto can beat 99.9% of characters he's not as smart as. Even matched out Sasuke who is clearly smarter than him too.

While they effect the match, they aren't a big necessity. Most of the smarter characters in the series aren't the strongest, case in point Shikamaru. Power is power. There's multiple sides to every story, just like how there are multiple variables to who decides a victor.

In Naruto's case, brains doesn't always beat brawn, but they do help in some cases.

Despite Shikamaru's high IQ, he would never be able to stop anyone above his reach. Not unless he had major prep, and God's will. Haha.

True.

 

[lndra]

I never mentioned Ukyo. I said the author, and I was speaking in general. I'm not well-versed in Databooks and shit as of yet, but Databooks have never been questioned b4. It's not an issue of canon and filler.

Thank you Einstein for explaining to [us] that you were talking about Ukyo Kodachi. He's the author.

Databooks are always legitimate.

No duh. But be wary of hyperboles.

Stats are legit. Doesn't matter what you think.

They can be legit, but it doesn't mean they make sense.

The story hasn't even unfolded much yet. We still haven't got anything on 'current' Konohamaru's intelligence feats, and so far he seems to know a ton of shit. He even knows about all of the Sharingan's abilities, which he confidently told Sarada about, so far he hasn't contradicted what's been stated of him.

Bottom line, is that Konohamaru will never be compared to Sasuke, anywhere.

Strength? Not happening. If you think he can equate PS, then your cray.
Speed? LOL....
Chakra? LOL
Versatility? ....
Intelligence? OMG.

It's just not happening. At best Konohamaru would be compared to Kakashi.

Well, this is Boruto, which will obviously be the same as Naruto. I mean, the power-scale has been upped a notch, and now we've got Boruto who was able to over-power Momoshiki with the Big Ball Rasengan. I mean, WTF. Momoshiki should have been able to push back Bolt's Rasengan, regardless of how powerful it was, and both techniques were portrayed to be about the same in level of power, but I digress. :lol

A few things

1. Naruto/Boruto's power scales have never made a random fodder the same level as the strongest character in the series. IDK why this is even a point

2. Momoshiki thought the Rasengan was gone, hence why he didn't brace himself. It barely did anything but throw him on the floor, though.

Have you seen current Konohamaru or Moegi fight? No, so you don't know what you're talking about. The stats are based on their current ability, which we haven't seen. Unless you have anything to disprove them based on their Boruto feats? Of course you can't.

We don't have to see either Konohmaru or Moegi fight to draw the conclusion that neither would match up Sasuke's intelligence feats, or any feats.

I mean we've seen Boruto fight, and there's no way he's as fast as Naruto. He even practice fought his father a chapter ago. :lol

Adult Konohamaru and teen Konohamaru aren't the same characters, and the Databook is based on Adult Konohamaru.

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Read my comment. He has some tactic ability and smarts, but intelligence-wise, he's shown to lack. And my point is intelligence doesn't matter when it comes to combat-ability, which is why Konohamaru's intelligence doesn't really matter. Sasuke would still beat his ass

You would be wrong, Sasuke was always presented as an intelligent character. Not book smart, but that's not intelligence at the key.

He's always been well rounded.

 

[Azarath Metrion Zinthos]

Thank you Einstein for explaining to [us] that you were talking about Ukyo Kodachi. He's the author.


No duh. But be wary of hyperboles.



They can be legit, but it doesn't mean they make sense.





Bottom line, is that Konohamaru will never be compared to Sasuke, anywhere.

Strength? Not happening. If you think he can equate PS, then your cray.
Speed? LOL....
Chakra? LOL
Versatility? ....
Intelligence? OMG.

It's just not happening. At best Konohamaru would be compared to Kakashi.



A few things

1. Naruto/Boruto's power scales have never made a random fodder the same level as the strongest character in the series. IDK why this is even a point

2. Momoshiki thought the Rasengan was gone, hence why he didn't brace himself. It barely did anything but throw him on the floor, though.






We don't have to see either Konohmaru or Moegi fight to draw the conclusion that neither would match up Sasuke's intelligence feats, or any feats.

I mean we've seen Boruto fight, and there's no way he's as fast as Naruto. He even practice fought his father a chapter ago. :lol




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You would be wrong, Sasuke was always presented as an intelligent character. Not book smart, but that's not intelligence at the key.

He's always been well rounded.

> Accepts Sakura is more intelligent than Sasuke, as has everyone else who's read this over a decade long series yet can't accept Konohamaru could be more intelligent than Sasuke.

Anyway, this is my limit. I planned on watching some videos a while ago, but it seems you deprived me of that time.

All my points remain (e.g author > your minuscule opinions), regardless of your impertinent retorts.

I'll now leave you to your opinion-based arguments since you clearly can't be convinced. I mean, you never agreed with anyone before, so why should I waste my time with you.

:bye:

 

[lndra]

> Accepts Sakura is more intelligent than Sasuke, as has everyone else who's read this over a decade long series yet can't accept Konohamaru could be more intelligent than Sasuke.

Sakura is not more intelligent than Sasuke. Where she succeeds in respected facts, Sasuke excels in strategy and elsewhere.

She's definitely smart though, smarter than Konohamaru too.

Anyway, this is my limit. I planned on watching some videos a while ago, but it seems you deprived me of that time.

All my points remain (e.g author > your minuscule opinions), regardless of your impertinent retorts.

I'll now leave you to your opinion-based arguments since you clearly can't be convinced. I mean, you never agreed with anyone before, so why should I waste my time with you.

:bye:

kay bai.

Stats are ass and they don't make sense is my argument.

When you can showcase Boruto being faster than Naruto, Konohamaru/Moegi being smarter than Sasuke, etc.

I'll be inclined to actually agree, somewhat. But that'll never happen. After this Konohamaru fight /w Ao, I'll quote this topic back at you so we can laugh at the thought of it.

I can't believe you actually expect the author to undervalue Sasuke for Konohamaru in any area. :lol

 

[Reviewing Logic]

Stats are ass and they don't make sense is my argument.

Indeed they are... Literally Naruto had 10 years under Kakashi and Iruka doing nothing but studying politics, sciences, ninjitsu, etc... to prep him to be Hokage

and Sasuke was out learning the world for those 10 years as well


Literally you had Naruto hand over a complex scroll about time dimensions in the Nue arc to Sasuke and he understood it.

Yet they have knowledge lower then a genin lol.

 

[FuriouslAngel]

Salad fans wanking the same databook that puts Sasuke's physical strength on par with kids :th:

hahahah, Hinabae was doing that *_* and i dont think databook means anything....

 

[Uzumaki Sasuke]

Boruto is basically a Naruto and Sasuke hybrid also with a doujutsu. It's simply unfair to both her and Boruto to even compare them

 

[salamander uchiha]

Boruto is basically a Naruto and Sasuke hybrid also with a doujutsu. It's simply unfair to both her and Boruto to even compare them

He has ninjutsu diversity(and ease at learning them) which is good but he's more like Naruto. However he will definitely become more like Sasuke as time progresses.

 

[Vulpini]

Boruto is basically a Naruto and Sasuke hybrid also with a doujutsu. It's simply unfair to both her and Boruto to even compare them

Boruto is nothing like Sasuke atm.

He may turn to be in the future, but right now he's just like Naruto.

 

[zachius]

Sarada so far, has proven to be the best ninja of the current boruto generation.
Even as at the academy, she has inherited;
1. His uncle Itachi's jutsu of peering into the soul of opponent and using information obtained in battle (Genjutsu) which is the basis of the great genjutsu TSUKUYOMI
2. His fathers chakra natures in addition to earth nature
3. His uncle Itachi's level of Intelligence.
4. His uncle Itachi's Shuriken jutsu
IMPRESSIVE

 

[SageModeActivate]

Smh, keep sleeping on Himawari. Anyways, Sarada is in fact the #1 student based on manga acts alone and not predefined statistics. 3 areas of techiniques a ninja must master or overcome is Ninjutsu, Genjutsu and Taijutsu. Sharingan alone grants her atleast above average in all 3 catagories. Intelligence and Chakra control, further enhance all three. Sarada is only second to Himawari.

 

[Vulpini]

Sarada so far, has proven to be the best ninja of the current boruto generation.
Even as at the academy, she has inherited;
1. His uncle Itachi's jutsu of peering into the soul of opponent and using information obtained in battle (Genjutsu) which is the basis of the great genjutsu TSUKUYOMI
2. His fathers chakra natures in addition to earth nature
3. His uncle Itachi's level of Intelligence.
4. His uncle Itachi's Shuriken jutsu
IMPRESSIVE

Facts.

Take this +rep.

 

[To Whatever]

Mitsuki is a genetically engineered human with Sage Mode. I'm pretty sure he's more versatile than anyone on the new gen.