Sarada: the most versatile out of new gen?

[Askeladd]

I'm glad you at last agree the teams are balanced but you forgot to add Mitsuki to the mix. That is what creates complete balance.

I never denied that the teams are balanced just that Boruto is more versatile than Sarada. And yeah obviously Mitsuki who is confirmed to be a medical nin.

So what Ive gathered is your saying is based on the official stats, Sarada has better genjutsu, marksmanship, ninjutsu knowledge.

That's where you are supposed to stop, Sarada is indeed specialized in Genjutsu/Marksmanship/Ninjutsu knowledge ( probably copying with the Sharingan )

While Boruto is better at Ninjutsu,Taijutsu & Evasion ( probably due of his high dexterity )

Don't worry about it

 

[FuriouslAngel]

Don't worry about it

But Sarada should be better at Ninjutsu....

She is an Uchiha, she got sharingan and she got perfect chakra control.

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

Yes neither was Mitsuki I guess Boruto is stronger than him and 99% of those not taken by Sasuke to save his dad. Anyway a kekkei genkai is a natural ability so it's not a cheat device don't let the :salt: blind you. It's not part of those tools which ate prohibited from use in the exam.

Show me a scan or any evidence that Sasuke was aware of Mitsuki or his abilities prior to the Momoshiki fight to even consider him and I'll agree...
Anyway, its ludicrous to think that Sasuke would take a child just cuz its his dad needs rescuing lol.
Natural ability or not the sharingan is a cheat device the uchihas are born with and no matter how much you try and deny it, it still stays a cheat device...:lol

Boruto has indeed shown feats after that nobody has denied that. It's not pointless to bring it up because it was the time to showcase feats and versatility since he had all the jutsu but cheating was used. This doesn't change the fact Boruto has moved on from that phase which I agree with.

No one denied that he used the kote device however when considered in context of the topic of discussion, I don't see how that is even relevant considering one logically would consider all the abilities and feats of character to decide their versatility.

 

[Askeladd]

But Sarada should be better at Ninjutsu....

The databook say otherwise plus the manga highly showcase that Boruto is indeed VERY talented at Ninjutsu.

 

[FuriouslAngel]

The databook say otherwise plus the manga highly showcase that Boruto is indeed VERY talented at Ninjutsu.

Its only because he is the MC and i just stated 3 facts why she is better. anyways im off...

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[salamander uchiha]

Show me a scan or any evidence that Sasuke was aware of Mitsuki or his abilities prior to the Momoshiki fight to even consider him and I'll agree...
Anyway, its ludicrous to think that Sasuke would take a child just cuz its his dad needs rescuing lol.
Natural ability or not the sharingan is a cheat device the uchihas are born with and no matter how much you try and deny it, it still stays a cheat device...:lol



No one denied that he used the kote device however when considered in context of the topic of discussion, I don't see how that is even relevant considering one logically would consider all the abilities and feats of character to decide their versatility.

This isn't just about Mitsuki I highlighted 99% of others including Shikamaru and shikidai defeated Boruto*who was foeced to cheat) with relative ease yet Sasuke didn't take him either. Among all the other ninja in konoha including the long list of jonin etc including Rock Lee unless your implying Boruto could beat Rock Lee as well. Like I said Boruto was taken because of his dad to rescue him nothibg more.

The sharingan is a natural ability call it a cheat device if it makes you feel better that just confirms it's at a level of unrivalled greatness.

The purpose of highlighting the kote device is Boruto displays amazing feats in the anime and according to the databook has several ninjutsu at his disposal among others but elects to cheat. What that is meant to show is Boruto can have jutsu arsenal but they weren't enough for him in the chunin exam.

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

This isn't just about Mitsuki I highlighted 99% of others including Shikamaru and shikidai defeated Boruto*who was foeced to cheat) with relative ease yet Sasuke didn't take him either. Among all the other ninja in konoha including the long list of jonin etc including Rock Lee unless your implying Boruto could beat Rock Lee as well. Like I said Boruto was taken because of his dad to rescue him nothibg more.

It was already explained in the manga and in the movie that all the people that Sasuke took were all that the village could've spared at the time....

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And as I said, Sasuke chose the one he saw had the potential and a use. So doesn't matter if Boruto lost to shikadai or not. Not to mention Boruto most probably would've beaten Shikadai if he knew that his rasengan actually works and could be thrown and goes invisible.

The sharingan is a natural ability call it a cheat device if it makes you feel better that just confirms it's at a level of unrivalled greatness.

I am not saying its wrong to use it and uchihas are lucky to have it. Simply calling it what it is.
@Bold

The purpose of highlighting the kote device is Boruto displays amazing feats in the anime and according to the databook has several ninjutsu at his disposal among others but elects to cheat. What that is meant to show is Boruto can have jutsu arsenal but they weren't enough for him in the chunin exam.

I know you'll disagree but most of us would agree that Boruto was nerfed during the chunnin exam to drive the plot. Still I don't see how the point you're making is relevant. Are you gonna judge a character's versatility based on how they were in the past and what abilities they had or will you consider their current abilities and feats lol.

 

[lndra]

Dude, you're question was is there anyone more versatile than Sadara. Someone gave you their opinion on who is more versatile, and stated their personal reasons for giving said answer. You not agreeing with their reasoning =/= them not answering your question

But it does=you not undertanding your own question. Evidence of that is in your own thread. You started off asking "is there anyone in the new gen more versatile than Sadara", gave examples of her versatility (and potential versatility), then decided for yourself at the end that no one in the new gen is more versatile, completely changing your original question, and then asked for our thoughts on your opinion

In other words, make up your mind

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IMO I think the most versatile of the next generation is Boruto, probably because he's had the most screen time. He has three elemental natures:

Wind Style:

> Vanishing Rasengan

> Gale Palm

Lightning Style:

> Raiton: Shinden (Purple Electricity)

> Lightning Triple

> Lightning Bolt (or what-ever that random technique he used to add via water)

Water:

> Splash BUllet

> Bellowing Wave


Normal Ninjutsu:

> Shadow Clones

> Rasengan [Normal]


Taijutsu:

> Variation of Gentle Fist, palm only. Can't strike tenketsu, yet.

> Kenutsu in the future.


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Jougan

[Unprecedented]

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Seal powers

[Unprecedented]

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He seems better off when we think about "versatility". He has a technique for literally any situation. He can increase his speed, has an AOE attack, has strong ninjutsu blasts. And he can coat his weapons with electricity.

When the Dojutsu comes on it'll prob be end game

 

[salamander uchiha]

It was already explained in the manga and in the movie that all the people that Sasuke took were all that the village could've spared at the time....

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And as I said, Sasuke chose the one he saw had the potential and a use. So doesn't matter if Boruto lost to shikadai or not. Not to mention Boruto most probably would've beaten Shikadai if he knew that his rasengan actually works and could be thrown and goes invisible.

I am not saying its wrong to use it and uchihas are lucky to have it. Simply calling it what it is.
@Bold

I know you'll disagree but most of us would agree that Boruto was nerfed during the chunnin exam to drive the plot. Still I don't see how the point you're making is relevant. Are you gonna judge a character's versatility based on how they were in the past and what abilities they had or will you consider their current abilities and feats lol.

The scan you post doesn't confine that that's all the village could spare at that time. Boruto was chosen for no reason but being Naruto's son there were other shinobi far stronger in konoha so we know that statement isn't or can't be referring to him in that context. As an example Rock Lee, Temari, Shikamaru etc.

I'm glad you acknowledge the blessings of the sharingan and it's immense benefit.

Your absolutely correct current feats should be considered but then old feats which over hype shouldn't be included referring to the anime where exceptional feats are shown if used in the chunin exam there would be no need for cheat cartridge. Thats why I consider most of Boruto's random feats filler not because I have a dislike for him believe it or not I don't. I guess I'm pissed off at the anime for ruining Boruto's character.

 

[Made in Heaven]

Literally no one but Salad stans think she stands a chance against Bolt.

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

The scan you post doesn't confine that that's all the village could spare at that time. Boruto was chosen for no reason but being Naruto's son there were other shinobi far stronger in konoha so we know that statement isn't or can't be referring to him in that context. As an example Rock Lee, Temari, Shikamaru etc.

Thought you'd say that. Here's the translation of Kishi's script from the movie...

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I'm glad you acknowledge the blessings of the sharingan and it's immense benefit.

Yep, its ability to give the user an unfair advantage by cheating is indeed beneficial.

Your absolutely correct current feats should be considered but then old feats which over hype shouldn't be included referring to the anime where exceptional feats are shown if used in the chunin exam there would be no need for cheat cartridge. Thats why I consider most of Boruto's random feats filler not because I have a dislike for him believe it or not I don't. I guess I'm pissed off at the anime for ruining Boruto's character.

Well he has better feats than Sarada in the manga too. And if you take away Sarada's anime feats then that difference only increases. So everything considered, Boruto is more versatile than Sarada.

 

[Azarath Metrion Zinthos]

The databook just explain on what the characters are specialized on.

The databook confirm that Boruto is better and more experienced than her in taijutsu.

I hope that clear up your confusion.

Same Databook says Salad has a solid 4 in Genjutsu, solid 4 in Shurikenjutsu and solid 4 in Ninjutsu Knowledge.

Bolt? He doesn't have any digit on Genjutsu or Shurikenjutsu, so by your logic, he gets one-shot by Genjutsu or Shurikenjutsu since he has neither skill as per Databook. :wut:

Not that I'm foolish to believe Bolt doesn't have any Shurikenjutsu skill, as he's demonstrated it numerous times now. Salad in the same sense has demonstrated Taijutsu capability. For Genjutsu however, I can't speak for him since 4 means she's immensely powerful in Genjutsu. And Bolt hasn't had any training in countering eye-based Genjutsu, let alone Genjutsu in general, or we would've been shown in the Anime since it is a dilation on what hasn't been touched upon in the Manga.

All you can do to defend Bolt is to come up with speculation based on his combat ability and potential. However Bolt has demonstrated no potential in Genjutsu.

 

[lndra]

Literally no one but Salad stans think she stands a chance against Bolt.

It's funny when you think about the fact that Boruto easily speed past Buntan with one technique, whereas she couldn't even move against it, and Sarada struggled for an entire episode against her. Mostly running around and trying to bide her time with strategy.

Boruto would of ended that match with Gale Palm in one second.

IDK why Salad fan's are underrating Anime Bolt for.

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Smh

 

[Made in Heaven]

Salad fans wanking the same databook that puts Sasuke's physical strength on par with kids :th:

 

[Cariostar]

Salad fans wanking the same databook that puts Sasuke's physical strength on par with kids :th:

It's actually funny that according to those stats Moegi is a Jōnin with below average Genin Strength... I mean, she's barely above a non-ninja fodder.

 

[salamander uchiha]

Thought you'd say that. Here's the translation of Kishi's script from the movie...

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Yep, its ability to give the user an unfair advantage by cheating is indeed beneficial.



Well he has better feats than Sarada in the manga too. And if you take away Sarada's anime feats then that difference only increases. So everything considered, Boruto is more versatile than Sarada.

This still doesn't explain why Boruto was chosen over the jonin and characters such as Rock Lee, Temari, Shikamaru etc. They were and are stronger than Boruto.

There's no such thing as an unfair advantage for it to be unfair it would have to come from underhanded means. It's a blessing for some and despair for others.

Sarada's feats in the manga are limited to her matches where she's not been forced to use anything past thaijutsu really not even her sharingan yet. In that aspect has he demonstrated more jutsu? yes he has, he's also demonstrated more than Mitsuki and in no way does that undermine them. They've just never been in a situation that demands anything past 1 or 2 skills. Animewise Sarada's rise and use of the Sharingan is something else.

 

[Hyuga Prodigy]

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Skills
Evasion ★★★★☆
Unarmed Hand-to-hand Fighting (Sudekakutō) ★★★☆☆
Ninjutsu ★★★★☆
…and others

Sarada Uchiha

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Skills
Marksmanship ★★★★☆
Genjutsu ★★★★☆
Knowledge of Ninjutsu ★★★★☆
…and others

Evasion and ninjutsu are Boruto's 4 star stats
CQC is his next highest stat and that's 3 stars.
So highest stats going down and only 3 are listed for each character.
All of Sarada's listed stats are 4 stars so like I said that on no way negates her ability in thaijutsu or cqc anywhere from 4 stars down to 0. And what does she use as her main form of combat in the manga CES and thaijutsu she hasn't been in any situation requiring more than that. And in no way do these stats prove Boruto is better at thaijutsu. They only show that Boruto's thaijutsu level is established Sarada's isnt for the reason they take your 3 best stats.

There's no flawed logic on my part only flawed understanding on yours. Anyway I hope I cleared that up for you.

You somehow believe that because she has "4 stars in these Particular skills" that you come to conclude that she has 4 stars in taijutsu which is frankly beyond all reason. Where are you asserting this based on?? Any kind of comparison between them are so superficial and shallow that even in the highly unrealistic case the databook somehow based them upon those characters, it would be impossible to say because the DB highlighted Sarada skills that she only classified in share as much with each other as with other stats .


Boruto has 3- 4 stars in these scenario, going by your logic Boruto should have 4 star in genjutsu and knowledge of Ninjutsu. :sdo:

This is your flawed logic.


Could've Would've Should've is all I am hearing from you.

Last thing to address. CES is not a form of taijutsu but rather a strength feat. Sarada hasn't shown any CQC anywhere in the anime except the time she fought against a Clone Boruto. In comparison to Sarada, Boruto taijutsu feats in the Anime completely over shadows her.

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When we look at the manga; Here Sarada charged straight with Chakra Enhanced Strength yet this fodder somehow hold on his own.

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Sarada actually displayed her cqc against a mujina thieves; it actually took a bit of time to beat 2 of them and yet in the end she winded up getting saved by Boruto

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When we look at Boruto stance, he beats 4 of mujina thieves all at once. You can clearly see the distinguish between the two.

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So even when you would use the argument that everything is subjective, your statements would be so screwed up and twisted that they can't even be taken seriously.

Frankly these examples and arguments of yours are so horrible that the only logical assumption that can be made, is that you intentionally used them because you want to instigate a flame war.

 

[lndra]

Salad fans wanking the same databook that puts Sasuke's physical strength on par with kids :th:

I was arguing this idiocy with someone earlier.

Anyone who tries to make sense of the Volume Book stats has to understand that they make no sense under any context. Moegi and Konohamaru being smarter than Sasuke? Sarada being physically stronger than Sakura? Boruto as fast as Hokage Naruto? Sasuke being 10 points smarter than Naruto?

Under what context are these stats legitimate? I don't care if they are considered 'canon' or not, that's neither here nor there. We are talking about making sense of them, and they don't make sense. At all.

The lengths people will go to wank their favs is unreal. Imagine deciding to ignore how bad something is just because you want to wank someone.

This sort of mentality is unreal to me.

 

[Askeladd]

Same Databook says Salad has a solid 4 in Genjutsu, solid 4 in Shurikenjutsu and solid 4 in Ninjutsu Knowledge.

That's what happen when you read half of what I said. I already mentioned that Sarada is specialized in Genjutsu,Shurikenjutsu & Ninjutsu Knowledge.

Bolt? He doesn't have any digit on Genjutsu or Shurikenjutsu, so by your logic, he gets one-shot by Genjutsu or Shurikenjutsu since he has neither skill as per Databook.

Boruto isn't specialized in Genjutsu. These stats are from the pre-chunin exam, I'm pretty sure Boruto get better at Shurikenjutsu post-movie.

so by your logic, he gets one-shot by Genjutsu or Shurikenjutsu since he has neither skill as per Databook.

All you can do to defend Bolt is to come up with speculation based on his combat ability and potential. However Bolt has demonstrated no potential in Genjutsu.

Also, how is that even related?

Not that I'm foolish to believe Bolt doesn't have any Shurikenjutsu skill,

Yup, Boruto actually showcased Shurikenjutsu canon feats in the manga.

The rest of your post make no sense tbh.

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

This still doesn't explain why Boruto was chosen over the jonin and characters such as Rock Lee, Temari, Shikamaru etc. They were and are stronger than Boruto.

....the denial. It clearly says they were all the village could've mustered at the time.

There's no such thing as an unfair advantage for it to be unfair it would have to come from underhanded means. It's a blessing for some and despair for others.

Yeah it allowed the uchihas to cheat.....

Sarada's feats in the manga are limited to her matches where she's not been forced to use anything past thaijutsu really not even her sharingan yet. In that aspect has he demonstrated more jutsu? yes he has, he's also demonstrated more than Mitsuki and in no way does that undermine them. They've just never been in a situation that demands anything past 1 or 2 skills. Animewise Sarada's rise and use of the Sharingan is something else.

Boruto is more versatile than Sarada.