[Discussion] Sarada, Rinnegan & Revelation

[VongolaX]

No, Sasuke is still alive, and we have no guarantee that the Transmigration is continuing after Naruto and Sasuke reconciled. Also its no certainty that Sarada would get Indra's chakra even if Sasuke was dead, you must remember that Indra inhabits those that reflect his nature.

Is Sarada like Indra? She doesn't seem power obsessed or jealous....

Ya, you're right. Sasuke is still alive so Sarada won't get it yet.
But Sarada has shown some traits of Indra/Sasuke, she was jealous of Boruto's relationship with his family. She hadn't had a need for power yet because she had no one to target.

Kakazu is not noted to be the only user, true we have only seen it from him, but the only requirements that seem to exist is the earth nature affinity which can be trained easily. My point is that its a jutsu that would likely become very common amongst Iwa ninja. Hence its not beyond thought that Obito a user of the sharingan has seen Kakazu using it and has copied it...Not beyond thought no?

Tobi hasn't been around Kakazu to copy that move. He shares the same hide like a mole Doton with deidara, and that's because they're partner so he's bound to copy.

Besides its not a case of strength, I would hardly consider Suigetsu a bench mark for super strength. I very much doubt he was using the power of the Mazo for something like blocking a sword, that's like using a nuclear power plant to power an electric sharpener. If I was Obito I would be embarrassed.

Suigestu has immense strength, did you see when he ripped the steel door with his hands? (The one Karin locked herself in with Hebi sasuke)
He also bull-rushed killerbee in that water fish form.

I'm not saying he needs to draw strength from the statue every time, it was just conveniently there. This takes place in the akatsuki hideout where the Gedo residents underneath. So it wasn't too far

Your quoting guys like Madara and Hashirama in a conversation about Obito being able to block Suigetsu of all people... To regular ninja people like Hashirama and Madara would easily be able to replicate the same feats. Also ever heard of chakra enhanced strength? Its not the sole purview of the ninja like Tsunade, ever ninja does it to various degrees.

My point is that he can't use the Mazo power all the time. I don't deny that during the war that's exactly what he was using remotely. The range is specific, take when he faught Minato or Konan as an example. His arm got blown off, he was away from the mazo.

I would however argue that blocking a sword from Suigetsu with his Hashirama arm is well within the boundaries of that right side all without the Mazo.

That only works with medical ninjas, Hashirama may have it but during his fight him and Madara showed equal physical strength. I know that he can't use it everywhere without Gedo mazou being present, but still Hashi cells don't give you super strength. He's never displayed such strength without the statue before.

 

[valandil988]

That only works with medical ninjas, Hashirama may have it but during his fight him and Madara showed equal physical strength. I know that he can't use it everywhere without Gedo mazou being present, but still Hashi cells don't give you super strength. He's never displayed such strength without the statue before.

Nope chakra enhanced strength is something every ninja uses. Ninja like Tsunade are only famous for it because they take it to insane levels. I don't doubt that Obito can enhance his own strength greatly, obviously not enough to be truly note worthy, certainly enough to block Suigetsu. While Suigetsu has some strength feats they aren't that impressive in my view.

Its not necessarily super strength that is needed, all he needs is super durability, Hashirama's cells clearly grant him that aspect. His ability to endure damage when he takes it is quite famed, he is actually known as one of the most durable characters in the Naruto verse amongst fans. For example he endured a point blank range Rasengan from the fourth all without the Mazo. The fact that he didn't die illustrates the durability of his zetsu half.

His ability to manipulate the shape and durability of his right hand side was made apparent during the Obito Gaiden. Not to mention he could project Mokuton from it as well, you didn't mention that he could use small localized wood to block it...

 

[Almighty Ra]

I think she'll have a totally different and unseen Sharringan jus cuz she has two strong genetical family traits

 

[VongolaX]

Nope chakra enhanced strength is something every ninja uses. Ninja like Tsunade are only famous for it because they take it to insane levels. I don't doubt that Obito can enhance his own strength greatly, obviously not enough to be truly note worthy, certainly enough to block Suigetsu. While Suigetsu has some strength feats they aren't that impressive in my view.

Its not necessarily super strength that is needed, all he needs is super durability, Hashirama's cells clearly grant him that aspect. His ability to endure damage when he takes it is quite famed, he is actually known as one of the most durable characters in the Naruto verse amongst fans. For example he endured a point blank range Rasengan from the fourth all without the Mazo. The fact that he didn't die illustrates the durability of his zetsu half.

His ability to manipulate the shape and durability of his right hand side was made apparent during the Obito Gaiden. Not to mention he could project Mokuton from it as well, you didn't mention that he could use small localized wood to block it...

Well duribility and impenetrable are different though.

White Zetsu's all over the war were getting bisected by ordinary swords.
There toughness is worse compared to the avatar age shinobi, that's why it can't be the cells.
Even Hashirama has been pierced, burned, and bitten into by Madara.
Hashirama just heals it up right back again.

The only significant mokuton that Obito really displayed was when he railed those mist ninjas, the small one he used to bind bm naruto was ripped up by his hand. A sword would definetly cut mokuton of any smaller size.