Sarada has no hope of keeping up with Boruto!

[The Necromancer]

Biggest problem with most Genjutsu for Itachi is that Kishimoto doesn't showcase a way to break out of them without being an Uchiha. However I won't blame the Uchiha, because there are tons of abilities out there that can only be blocked with certain upgrades too.

Well Itachi's biggest strength is that his genjutsus are practically undetectable until he either literally tells them they're in one, or he makes it blatantly obvious by having their teammates transform into birds and he flies into the sky.

That's what so many people miss out on (especially in Minato vs. Itachi debates). They assume that the second the genjutsu is live, the sky is going to turn red and the ground is going to start talking like the ****ing floor from Pewee's Playhouse or some shit, when in reality, they're likely to be in exactly the same situation as in reality, but instead of attacking Itachi, they'll be running off a cliff, or even standing still while he walks up to them.

BRB: Fitworks calls. Will respond later.

 

[lndra]

Well Itachi's biggest strength is that his genjutsus are practically undetectable until he either literally tells them they're in one, or he makes it blatantly obvious by having their teammates transform into birds and he flies into the sky.

That's what so many people miss out on (especially in Minato vs. Itachi debates). They assume that the second the genjutsu is live, the sky is going to turn red and the ground is going to start talking like the ****ing floor from Pewee's Playhouse or some shit, when in reality, they're likely to be in exactly the same situation as in reality, but instead of attacking Itachi, they'll be running off a cliff, or even standing still while he walks up to them.

BRB: Fitworks calls. Will respond later.

Bold: That's what makes them so freaking broken lmfao.

But I stated before, there's so many techniques that are broken in the Manga. I think it's around the time that Sasuke and Itachi finish fighting that the Manga starts to descale itself, right?

We get introduced to the Mangekyo Sharingan again, this time with Susano'o, and Amaterasu (we saw Tsukuyomi in part one). Then we see techniques like Flying Thunder God, Kamui gets explained, Naruto gets KCM/BM, and you can basically fill in the rest (don't forget the Rinnegan).

I wonder how the scaling is going to be now that the Otsutsuki are apart of the plot line?

 

[The Necromancer]

Bold: That's what makes them so freaking broken lmfao.

But I stated before, there's so many techniques that are broken in the Manga. I think it's around the time that Sasuke and Itachi finish fighting that the Manga starts to descale itself, right?

We get introduced to the Mangekyo Sharingan again, this time with Susano'o, and Amaterasu (we saw Tsukuyomi in part one). Then we see techniques like Flying Thunder God, Kamui gets explained, Naruto gets KCM/BM, and you can basically fill in the rest (don't forget the Rinnegan).

I wonder how the scaling is going to be now that the Otsutsuki are apart of the plot line?

Yeah. Kishi's editor left after the Invasion of Pain arc, and that's about when it became shitty scaling and ability wise, so I think his editor was the true genius behind Naruto. Haha.

But I just love the "he's smart/a kage/strong so he'll just break the genjutsu" argument. Forgetting completely that there's no character in the manga who attempts to break genjutsus they don't even know they're in.

Maybe if someone like Jiraiya willingly disrupted his chakra every 30 seconds just in case, we could talk. But to this day, no one, not even Perfect Jinchuriki can end a genjutsu before knowing they are in one.

 

[NarutoX28]

Well, Sarada's Sharingan is still developing, so she'll improve substantially once she attains a 3T Sharingan.

 

[true enigma]

Naruto can teach Sarada how to freeload off of a jinchurink every fight lol

 

[Aznkidd]

Well, if any1 here tried to rustle NB because of Boruto, you are wrong lolz. Our top priority is the princess Himawari now. She possesed the solo finger that can solo even demi god. Your sarada is just a normal human, not even worth to mention...

 

[SenseiSama]

She's either stuck with sakura who's busy cleaning or she gets a new master

Naruto will be her master because she's like a female Obito

 

[LoZelda101]

First of all I think that Sarada is more talented than Boruto, She's got the Sharingan, superhuman strength and she's skilled with shuriken! but Boruto will eventually be stronger than her just because Sasuke is his master and Sasuke is superior to any teacher Sarada can get (especially that Naruto is always busy in his office).

The things that Sasuke can teach to Boruto

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And if Boruto learned sage mode when he grow up he should be at 3t Adult Sasuke and sage mode adult Naruto's level

That's why I think Sarada has no hope of keeping up with Boruto.
What do you think ?

hope you're joking. super punch strength, precog, sakura's Chakra control genes, and potential healing factor is everything sasuke needed to begin with.

 

[Angelic.]

Naruto will be her master because she's like a female Obito

Bleh.

 

[SenseiSama]

Just because she's Sasuke's daughter doesn't mean she will be good with kenjutsu, just like Boruto is Naruto's son and he's nothing compared to his father when it comes to shadow clones

He mastered Rasengan and added an element to it unlike Minato, so that statement is false. And Sarada's CES is a hint she has Sakura's chakra control and potential for Byakogou which would only make her Sharingan even stronger.

 

[Aznkidd]

Yeah. Kishi's editor left after the Invasion of Pain arc, and that's about when it became shitty scaling and ability wise, so I think his editor was the true genius behind Naruto. Haha.

But I just love the "he's smart/a kage/strong so he'll just break the genjutsu" argument. Forgetting completely that there's no character in the manga who attempts to break genjutsus they don't even know they're in.

Maybe if someone like Jiraiya willingly disrupted his chakra every 30 seconds just in case, we could talk. But to this day, no one, not even Perfect Jinchuriki can end a genjutsu before knowing they are in one.

Lol Bee strike Sasuke within a second of surprised after got genjutsued.
I cant believe someone like you even forget that Hashirama and Tobirama fought with the best Uchiha in entire of war. If genjutsu was that level of fearsome, Hashirama would be long long dead. It is not even worth to fight top notch ninja with such low skilled jutsu.

 

[UchihasRightfulHeir]

First of all I think that Sarada is more talented than Boruto, She's got the Sharingan, superhuman strength and she's skilled with shuriken! but Boruto will eventually be stronger than her just because Sasuke is his master and Sasuke is superior to any teacher Sarada can get (especially that Naruto is always busy in his office).

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And if Boruto learned sage mode when he grow up he should be at 3t Adult Sasuke and sage mode adult Naruto's level

That's why I think Sarada has no hope of keeping up with Boruto.
What do you think ?

I didn't even notice that. lol.

1 - Nothing you have mentioned would place Boruto anywhere near 3T Adult Sasuke level.

2 - Even SM Adult Naruto is a stretch as he still has rikudou chakra.

 

[Warlocks]

kishi will make it happen

 

[The Necromancer]

Lol Bee strike Sasuke within a second of surprised after got genjutsued.
I cant believe someone like you even forget that Hashirama and Tobirama fought with the best Uchiha in entire of war. If genjutsu was that level of fearsome, Hashirama would be long long dead. It is not even worth to fight top notch ninja with such low skilled jutsu.

1. Sasuke's Genjutsu was obvious. Whereas Itachi had to tell Bee he was in his genjutsu before he was broken out. At least learn how to read before challenging posts.
2. Those uchiha were featless.
3. Itachi is a genjutsu prodigy, and was clearly in a tier above the standard of Uchiha.
4. Orochimaru and Deidara, arguably 2 of the strongest men in the world were taken down by a single genjutsu, to the point that Orochimaru fled Akatsuki and refused to battle Itachi again, and Deidara had to develop a technique we've never seen again in the manga to combat specifically Itachi's genjutsu, and he was still put in a genjutsu effectively multiple times.

 

[Endles Waltz]

She actually has more than enough to keep up especially as her Sharingan progresses. Not to mention if Sasuke decided to train his own daughter instead (which would make more sense) who has a far better affinity in learning his techniques as she possesses his blood and KKG. :lol That's probably the reason why they shouldn't let him train her, because that way she would easily over-shadow Boruto.

She could also be trained by Naruto, the busy Hokage excuse is weak, Tsunade trained Sakura as a Hokage, besides Naruto has shadow clones. The whole training each other's children is just illogical and impracticable though. Boruto and Sarada are already copies of their parents, Boruto uses clones and Rasengan, while Sarada is good at shuriken and has Sharingan, has super strength and spitting fire is in her blood.

Their potential lies in evolving those same abilities, so getting trained by their own fathers will make them reach their full potential. And if that were to happen, Sarada would race way ahead of the pack, Sharingan GG, and unlike Naruto, Boruto has no Bijuu inside of him.

 

[lndra]

He mastered Rasengan and added an element to it unlike Minato, so that statement is false. And Sarada's CES is a hint she has Sakura's chakra control and potential for Byakogou which would only make her Sharingan even stronger.

Yeah it's kind of ironic that most of his spectacular feats come from the things he does by himself. Such as: learning to utilize three elements, applying nature chakra to the Rasengan, and learning techniques without a training regime.

What makes it funnier is that Kishimoto made sure to make him lazy, and uninterested in training, or hell, being a shinobi if you must. So really what is Kishimoto going for?

Honestly its going to be really interesting to see a Main Character who doesn't rely on his Dojutsu/Clan Power, nor a Bijuu power, but just fight with his own skills. I think that's why characters like Gai, Kakashi, Minato, Tobirama, and so forth are so damn interesting with their fighting styles.

Anyway all I have to say on this whole debate of thread is that anyone who believes Sasuke's daughter won't amount to as much as Naruto's children is joking to themselves. Though based on feats, and what we have seen from both characters so far. The gap between skills is greatly profound. But I guess it would make sense since one of them wants to become Hokage, and has to struggle towards that goal of will. While another one is a Prodigy, and wants to do something in the shadows. So we don't really need to see a struggle of skills, but more of a struggle of character.

Yeah. Kishi's editor left after the Invasion of Pain arc, and that's about when it became shitty scaling and ability wise, so I think his editor was the true genius behind Naruto. Haha.

But I just love the "he's smart/a kage/strong so he'll just break the genjutsu" argument. Forgetting completely that there's no character in the manga who attempts to break genjutsus they don't even know they're in.

Maybe if someone like Jiraiya willingly disrupted his chakra every 30 seconds just in case, we could talk. But to this day, no one, not even Perfect Jinchuriki can end a genjutsu before knowing they are in one.

Pretty much agreed.

Is Itachi the only one who has used Genjutsu that the person doesn't know he/she has been affected by such-said technique?

 

[SenseiSama]

Yeah it's kind of ironic that most of his spectacular feats come from the things he does by himself. Such as: learning to utilize three elements, applying nature chakra to the Rasengan, and learning techniques without a training regime.

What makes it funnier is that Kishimoto made sure to make him lazy, and uninterested in training, or hell, being a shinobi if you must. So really what is Kishimoto going for?

Honestly its going to be really interesting to see a Main Character who doesn't rely on his Dojutsu/Clan Power, nor a Bijuu power, but just fight with his own skills. I think that's why characters like Gai, Kakashi, Minato, Tobirama, and so forth are so damn interesting with their fighting styles.

Anyway all I have to say on this whole debate of thread is that anyone who believes Sasuke's daughter won't amount to as much as Naruto's children is joking to themselves. Though based on feats, and what we have seen from both characters so far. The gap between skills is greatly profound. But I guess it would make sense since one of them wants to become Hokage, and has to struggle towards that goal of will. While another one is a Prodigy, and wants to do something in the shadows. So we don't really need to see a struggle of skills, but more of a struggle of character.

But technically Rasengan signifies he inherited Naruto's chakra control and his element affinities come from his parents or the fact all of Ashura's descendants are gifted with elements :eww:

Imo he's still gonna get a power up from his lineage because his father literally has the Sage's body like Ashura, maybe Sage Mode or a Kurama cloak like the one Hinata used in War Arc.

But it is interesting that Boruto is talented but lazy while Sarada has a "hard work" ethic and aims to be like Naruto, imo Kishi reversed Indra and Ashura's roles amongst Naruto and Sasuke's children. With Sarada we may see what an Uchiha with a strong will can be capable of while Boruto displays what a Senju/Uzumaki with prodigious skill can be capable of.

 

[The Necromancer]

Yeah it's kind of ironic that most of his spectacular feats come from the things he does by himself. Such as: learning to utilize three elements, applying nature chakra to the Rasengan, and learning techniques without a training regime.

What makes it funnier is that Kishimoto made sure to make him lazy, and uninterested in training, or hell, being a shinobi if you must. So really what is Kishimoto going for?

Honestly its going to be really interesting to see a Main Character who doesn't rely on his Dojutsu/Clan Power, nor a Bijuu power, but just fight with his own skills. I think that's why characters like Gai, Kakashi, Minato, Tobirama, and so forth are so damn interesting with their fighting styles.

Anyway all I have to say on this whole debate of thread is that anyone who believes Sasuke's daughter won't amount to as much as Naruto's children is joking to themselves. Though based on feats, and what we have seen from both characters so far. The gap between skills is greatly profound. But I guess it would make sense since one of them wants to become Hokage, and has to struggle towards that goal of will. While another one is a Prodigy, and wants to do something in the shadows. So we don't really need to see a struggle of skills, but more of a struggle of character.


Pretty much agreed.

Is Itachi the only one who has used Genjutsu that the person doesn't know he/she has been affected by such-said technique?

The whole time? Yeah... Kinda. Sasuke did the same to Deidara, until Deidara "activated" his genjutsu seeing through eye thing. And he did it to Danzo for all of 3 seconds before the end of their fight.

But the best example of Itachi's OPness is against Deidara. Itachi literally stood there, and Deidara attacked himself without ever knowing he was even in a genjutsu.

 

[lndra]

But technically Rasengan signifies he inherited Naruto's chakra control and his element affinities come from his parents or the fact all of Ashura's descendants are gifted with elements :eww:

I don't really think he inherited Naruto's CC. I mean if you really think about it...

> He learned the Rasengan faster than his father, took him around two or three days.
> He unconsciously applied Nature Chakra to it, took Naruto a while before he could get the hang of it, but Naruto also had a teacher to help him with the technicalities.

His CC based on his feats would be better than Naruto's during the Exams. But Naruto's overwhelming boost from the Kyuubi which gave him access to Gamabunta, and defeating Neji, easily tops his skills with raw power.

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I'm not sure. The only real elemental user out of Indra/Ashura, was Indra himself. He was probably a great Lightning user like Sasuke, hence 'Indra Arrow' technique. Ashura seemed more talented in body powers, like Sage Mode and sensing. However I don't deny that the Senju Clan have produced great Elemental users like: Hashirama, Tobirama, Naruto (I know he isn't an Senju, but you understand what I mean), and now Boruto.

Though Madara is amazing in Katon, and Sasuke himself was capable of using Katon at 6, and learned Raiton after Kakashi taught him.

So it's pretty much diversified.

Imo he's still gonna get a power up from his lineage because his father literally has the Sage's body like Ashura, maybe Sage Mode or a Kurama cloak like the one Hinata used in War Arc.

I'm thinking something more like:

I. Sage Mode [Jiraiya]
II. Just Base [Like Minato/Tobirama]

However Sasuke believes he can surpass Naruto, but I think that's a ploy honestly. He did say it with Boruto not being enhanced by any power ups mind us. Still I have no clue on this subject... Just another Gohan parallel.

But it is interesting that Boruto is talented but lazy while Sarada has a "hard work" ethic and aims to be like Naruto, imo Kishi reversed Indra and Ashura's roles amongst Naruto and Sasuke's children. With Sarada we may see what an Uchiha with a strong will can be capable of while Boruto displays what a Senju/Uzumaki with prodigious skill can be capable of.

I also think that's pretty cool. It makes things more interesting for me because I really hate copy cats and hand-me-downs. People just want to see characters pull the same techniques as their parents, but honestly that's just boring. I'd rather see something new.

I would rather have not seen CES, Rasengan, Shadow Clones, or anything over used. But I guess it's inevitable, right?

The whole time? Yeah... Kinda. Sasuke did the same to Deidara, until Deidara "activated" his genjutsu seeing through eye thing. And he did it to Danzo for all of 3 seconds before the end of their fight.

But the best example of Itachi's OPness is against Deidara. Itachi literally stood there, and Deidara attacked himself without ever knowing he was even in a genjutsu.

Poor Deidara hated the Sharingan and got it coming to him.

 

[Yatori]

kishi will make it happen

Too bad boruto manga is not written by kishi