Sarada > Bourto for one simple reason.

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Well that will be tricky considering how Naruto never fought someone using chakra mode 1 v 1 without help or plot suddenly demanding him to upgrade :bdpf:
if naruto is using chakra mode how the **** is he fighting 1 on 1?...are you retarded? :sdo:

also did you forget the last - naruto the movie?...where naruto solo'd toneri "without help" or "an upgrade"?
 
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if naruto is using chakra mode how the **** is he fighting 1 on 1?...are you retarded? :sdo:

also did you forget the last - naruto the movie?...where naruto solo'd toneri "without help" or "an upgrade"?
Excluding Kurama of course since we all know Naruto wouldn't even have made it past the chunin exams if it wasn't for Kurama handing out plot protection

And Solo'd Toneri? :lmao:

You mean after he was solo'd numerous times throughout the movie and relied on Hinatas chakra to stop him at the end, nice try :bdpf:
 

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Did you not read what I just said, or...? You're actually glossing over that fact, without pinpointing the details.

> Both Chou Chou and Sarada moved out of the weapon attack, although Sarada was definitely more graceful.
> Chou Chou went behind the Shin, but he immediately countered her by going above her attack, wrapping his chain around her arm, and simultaneously tripping Sarada who was across the field.
You've strengthened my argument.

In the situation you described the individual Mini-Shin clearly showcased superiority over Sarada and she went onto solo over a dozen of those Mini-Shin's at once (with one simple strike to the ground).

Ain't no one not giving a feat or what-ever to no one.
Your the only one who won't give her the feat btw but it's expected.


The simple fact is, Sarada defeated a bunch of Shin's, but she didn't actually defeat them in the same contrast to what you're trying to group Boruto with.
Trash comeback, the difference between the two situations is that the the collection of individuals (Mini-Shin's) that Sarada soloed each had an active doujutsu with the intent to kill. That difference actually makes the comparison seem minscule being that the shadow clones Bourto faced would mostly likely be low-diffed by one Mini Shin.



Boruto and his clones were trying to fight one on one (or in some cases double teams vs one) in straight CQC. Sarada jumped in the middle of the unexpected Shin's with her AOE and blew them all away, but she didn't actually fight each and every Shin in the same way that Boruto had to fight the Kirigakure brothers with his.
What are you talking about? Boruto couldn't fight them on his own, which is why he had to resort to the Kote device but more then that.. The "unexpected" implication doesn't do your argument any justice becuase Boruto "unexpectedly" (with no hand signs) generated a water release followed by a lightning release. Who's to say that the Kirigakure brothers wouldn't have evade those elemental attacks if they saw Boruto make hand signs?

That's the point, and the contrast. Despite this, I even pointed out in the Scan that the other team who started with nine, ended with six, and Boruto who started with five, ended with one. You can go look back if you missed it, I'm pretty sure you did.
More allusion but it's expected.

See the above.
 

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Excluding Kurama of course since we all know Naruto wouldn't even have made it past the chunin exams if it wasn't for Kurama handing out plot protection
just like how sasuke got saved by the plot 3 straight times in the chunin exams?...where is the problem?

And Solo'd Toneri? :lmao:

You mean after he was solo'd numerous times throughout the movie and relied on Hinatas chakra to stop him at the end, nice try :bdpf:
waiting for the scene where hinata one-shotted toneri :sigar:
 

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In the situation you described the individual Mini-Shin clearly showcased superiority over Sarada and she went onto solo over a dozen of those Mini-Shin's at once (with one simple strike to the ground).That difference actually makes the comparison seem minscule being that the shadow clones Bourto faced would mostly likely be low-diffed by one Mini Shin.
like sarada and chocho?
 

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You've strengthened my argument.

In the situation you described the individual Mini-Shin clearly showcased superiority over Sarada and she went onto solo over a dozen of those Mini-Shin's at once (with one simple strike to the ground).
What superiority? I don't think you understand the entire argument itself, Sarada has the strength to send multiple people away through her CES. But she doesn't have the ability to physically fight Shin one on one.

Do you understand the difference?



Your the only one who won't give her the feat btw but it's expected.
Not sure exactly what you mean, but considering you like to twist stuff, it's expected.




Trash comeback, the difference between the two situations is that the the collection of individuals (Mini-Shin's) that Sarada soloed each had an active doujutsu with the intent to kill. That difference actually makes the comparison seem minscule being that the shadow clones Bourto faced would mostly likely be low-diffed by one Mini Shin.
What kind of explanation is this, if it's even an explanation to begin with? Sarada jumped in the air, one Shin threw a kunai at her, she dodged it, and then she landed in the middle of them. There was no battle, she didn't fight one. That's the difference. She blew them all away unexpectedly.

Boruto was surrounded by numbers which excelled his own, and he was overpowered in trying to fight them one by one.





What are you talking about? Boruto couldn't fight them on his own, which is why he had to resort to the Kote device but more then that.. The "unexpected" implication doesn't do your argument any justice becuase Boruto "unexpectedly" (with no hand signs) generated a water release followed by a lightning release. Who's to say that the Kirigakure brothers wouldn't have evade those elemental attacks if they saw Boruto make hand signs?
The nonsense level is just too much. The reason why Boruto resorted to the KOTE device is because the six clones that were left after the brawl, all headed towards the flag while Boruto (the only one left) had nothing to do from stopping them. If he didn't, they would of lost the match. So he resorted to the only thing he could at the moment, cheating.

You mean the Kirigakure brothers who were faced the other way at the flag? I don't even think Boruto had a high level of Ninjutsu to do this anyway, so I'm not sure why you brought it up. The only thing I told you was that the Kirigakure brothers had six clones left after the brawl against Boruto and his four clones, when the Kirigakure brothers started with nine.

Now you can continue to ignore this statement and try to make it seem as if you don't understand first grade simplistic, or you can continue on your day with ignorance.



More allusion but it's expected.

See the above.
The only allusion is your lack of debate skills.

See above.
 

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What superiority? I don't think you understand the entire argument itself
This is my thread.. Not only do I understand the argument, I started it. Now in the previous response you left you pointed out how Mini-Shin was easily able to out maneuver/evade both Sarada & ChoCho's attempts/attacks right? Well Mini-Shin out maneuvering/evading their attacks then placing them in a comprising postion would make Mini-Shin superior.

You can't debunk that.

Sarada has the strength to send multiple people away through her CES. But she doesn't have the ability to physically fight Shin one on one.
Are you saying that Sarada's physical strength would magically disappear if she faced a mini-shin alone? Why would her CES/taijutsu become obsolete against a Mini-Shin? That honestly makes no sense and I'm sure you know it doesn't but YES she has the strength and skill to engage a Mini-Shin.

Sarada jumped in the air, one Shin threw a kunai at her, she dodged it, and then she landed in the middle of them.
Correct, Sarada placed herself in a postion (the middle) which allowed her cherry blossom to take out a significant quantitive number of the enemy who had the intent to kill.

That's sounds like strategy to me.


There was no battle, she didn't fight one
You sound silly, why wild Sarada try to fight 1v1 when her potential allowed her to soloed many at once or at the same time? I mean when your enemy has intentions of killing you and they also out number you, why would you take out as many as you can at once?

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Boruto was surrounded by numbers which excelled his own, and he was overpowered in trying to fight them one by one.
No Boruto made shadow clones to combat the shadow clones perusing his teams flag, he wasn't trying to individually fight each clone by himself. Which again strengthens my point, Boruto was unable to handle himself with his own abilities against a large number opponents the way Sarada handled herself.

That's the difference. She blew them all away unexpectedly.
Two things: (1st thing) 'She blew them all away unexpectedly" is the perfect description of the power/ability she showcased, you have a way with words! (2nd thing) Sarada did unexpectedly solo with a punch similar to how Boruto unexpectedly (without hand signs and with a device) released to elemental attacks. So the "unexpected" implication your trying to use to debunk my thread isn't going to work in your favor.


Boruto was surrounded by numbers which excelled his own, and he was overpowered in trying to fight them one by one.
Did you watch the movie or read the manga? Boruto didn't try to fight them one by one he made also made shadow clones.




The nonsense level is just too much. The reason why Boruto resorted to the KOTE device is because the six clones that were left after the brawl, all headed towards the flag while Boruto (the only one left) had nothing to do from stopping them.
Thanks for making my point, the rest that not in bold is irrelevant.

He resorted to using the Kote device because he was unable to combat the number of opponents against him using "natural ability"..


If he didn't, they would of lost the match. So he resorted to the only thing he could at the moment, cheating.
I don't disagree but this has nothing to do with the topic or argument Indra.

You mean the Kirigakure brothers who were faced the other way at the flag? I don't even think Boruto had a high level of Ninjutsu to do this anyway, so I'm not sure why you brought it up.


The only thing I told you was that the Kirigakure brothers had six clones left after the brawl against Boruto and his four clones, when the Kirigakure brothers started with nine.
Again allow me to revise my point for you, Bourto wasn't able to combat then defeat a complete series of shadow clones using his own ability while Sarada was able to combat then defeat a large quantity of clones who each had active sharnigans using her own ability.

Now you can continue to ignore this statement and try to make it seem as if you don't understand first grade simplistic, or you can continue on your day with ignorance.
Rustled.

Don't choke on those big words lol and don't be mad that I soloed your argument.



The only allusion is your lack of debate skills.

See above.
My lack of debate skills just soloed you.
 

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This is my thread.. Not only do I understand the argument, I started it. Now in the previous response you left you pointed out how Mini-Shin was easily able to out maneuver/evade both Sarada & ChoCho's attempts/attacks right? Well Mini-Shin out maneuvering/evading their attacks then placing them in a comprising postion would make Mini-Shin superior.
Yes because the person who makes the thread automatically knows what they are talking about... Oh.

No one said Shin Jr wasn't superior, what are you referring to?


Are you saying that Sarada's physical strength would magically disappear if she faced a mini-shin alone? Why would her CES/taijutsu become obsolete against a Mini-Shin? That honestly makes no sense and I'm sure you know it doesn't but YES she has the strength and skill to engage a Mini-Shin.
No. Sarada doesn't have the capabilities to actually fight Shin in a one on one match like they did against Shin in Chapter 3. He's feats are pretty incredible, the only one who could stand a chance would probably be SM Mitsuki. He could counter his speed. Shin's most credible dodging feat is moving away from Naruto's BM hand.

The only reason why the AOE worked in the first place was because the Shin's weren't expecting her to smash the ground into smithereens when she landed in the middle of them. It was basically a **** you moment.

Correct, Sarada placed herself in a postion (the middle) which allowed her cherry blossom to take out a significant quantitive number of the enemy who had the intent to kill.

That's sounds like strategy to me.
Sarada is mainly about strategy. Ya girl is book smart like the momma ~




You sound silly, why wild Sarada try to fight 1v1 when her potential allowed her to soloed many at once or at the same time? I mean when your enemy has intentions of killing you and they also out number you, why would you take out as many as you can at once?
Rasta that's what I said when you tried comparing situations! If Sarada had to fight all those Shin's at once, would we call it a fault on her if she failed? Of course not. Damn well we know she would of tried her best against that many numbers. The fact that she can defeat them with AOE is another story, but that's not what I'm pointing out here.

When your out numbered and fighting opponents in a 1v1 (or 2v1), in comparison to being capable of knocking back many at once, they are both two different obstacles.

No Boruto made shadow clones to combat the shadow clones perusing his teams flag, he wasn't trying to individually fight each clone by himself. Which again strengthens my point, Boruto was unable to handle himself with his own abilities against a large number opponents the way Sarada handled herself.
What? Boruto had Shadow Clones made before the fight started in case the enemy tried to sneak attack from any angle. The opponent is the one who made shadow clones when Boruto started being cocky by the fact that he out numbered them five to three. Boruto wasn't trying to fight the clones individually, what scan's were you reading? Each battle consisted of a single Boruto fighting a clone, or in some cases, fighting multiple clones and getting double teamed.


Two things: (1st thing) 'She blew them all away unexpectedly" is the perfect description of the power/ability she showcased, you have a way with words! (2nd thing) Sarada did unexpectedly solo with a punch similar to how Boruto unexpectedly (without hand signs and with a device) released to elemental attacks. So the "unexpected" implication your trying to use to debunk my thread isn't going to work in your favor.
Er, no. No one is trying to debunk your thread with this argument. I'll restate it somewhere below



Thanks for making my point, the rest that not in bold is irrelevant.
The only reason why it's irrelevant (to you) is because:

I. The truth
II. No argument against it.



He resorted to using the Kote device because he was unable to combat the number of opponents against him using "natural ability"..
The only reason he restorted to the KOTE device was because he needed to stop the team from capturing the flag. Of course he couldn't stop the clones by himself.

The whole ordeal was a team match, 3v3 battle (stated in the Examination). Mitsuki and Sarada traveled together in order to fight off the team that they thought would appear in their way, Boruto was left to defend the flag. The entire team left a Genjutsu trap, hoping that they could stall and capture the enemy's flag with brute force (and numbers). The entire Team attacked Boruto, with increased numbers, and he couldn't stop three shinobi at once who could also multiply themselves. The only reason why he won was because he cheated with the KOTE device, catching them off guard when they decided to run towards the flag after throwing Boruto on the ground with all of his clones destroyed.

Mind you that they only had six left as well.


Again allow me to revise my point for you, Bourto wasn't able to combat then defeat a complete series of shadow clones using his own ability while Sarada was able to combat then defeat a large quantity of clones who each had active sharnigans using her own ability.
I'll revise what I said earlier.

Sarada cannot combat multiple people at once (as in multiple people coming at her), however she can blow multiple people away at once if the situation arrives. Boruto cannot fight multiple people at once either, however he has shown to take care of few numbers despite the disadvantage.

If Boruto or Sarada fought one of those fodders by themselves with no backup (as in one Kirigakure dude), he would get neg diffed for sure regardless.



Rustled.

Don't choke on those big words lol and don't be mad that I soloed your argument. My lack of debate skills just soloed you
There's no way to be rustled with the way things are going.

Anyone who says to say they 'solod' an argument only displays their lack of arrogance on themselves. I don't have to prove that I solo'd an argument by saying it, because well, common sense lies in a good debate. It'll be over pretty soon.
 
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