Sannin vs Kakuzu, Hidan, Sasori and Deidara

[Chīkara]

Sage Mode Jiraiya alone takes half the squad, and with 3 boss summons + Tsunade boosting Orochimarus attacks to fend them off Jiraiya will have no trouble getting into SM. Sannin win this mid diff at the hardest.

Nice fanfic.
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[Shitenshin no jutsu]

What the hell is going on in this thread?

Sannin win mid diff.

 

[Beans2]

Nice fanfic.
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Coming from a guy who thinks Deidara solos the Sannin. You are a confirmed idiot.

 

[Bantos]

I'm going with the Sannin here.

 

[Rιver]

Sage Mode Jiraiya alone takes half the squad, and with 3 boss summons + Tsunade boosting Orochimarus attacks to fend them off Jiraiya will have no trouble getting into SM. Sannin win this mid diff at the hardest.

How does Orochimaru fend off Kakuzu, Deidara and Sasori at the same time? Against each of them, one on one it's already debatable. He gets destroyed, and Deidara has enough firepower to land a hit on Jiraiya as well.

 

[Chīkara]

What the hell is going on in this thread?

Sannin win mid diff.

Coming from a guy who thinks Deidara solos the Sannin. You are a confirmed idiot.

Counter to C4 Garuda ?

Jiraiya isn't starting in SM and it takes some time for him to enter. They'll think its a dud just like Sasuke did.
God even IF you add those other 3 with it. they wont die. 1 is a puppet, the other is immortal, and Kakuzu doesn't breath.

They'll survive C4 comfortably.

They ain't dying.

 

[Nattana]

There is a clown in this thread who believes Deidara solos the Sannin.

 

[Beans2]

How does Orochimaru fend off Kakuzu, Deidara and Sasori at the same time? Against each of them, one on one it's already debatable. He gets destroyed, and Deidara has enough firepower to land a hit on Jiraiya as well.

Tsunade uses Byakogou to boost Wind Release: Great Breakthrough so that it knocks away Deidara's homing missiles. Kakuzu can't scratch Manda, and Sasori can only hurt him with his iron sand blocks (sand is weak to oil, so Bunta sprays the iron sand and it dissolves.) Deidara won't use C3 as it will hurt his teammates, and C4 won't be used before Jiraiya enters SM if Deidara is IC- and Sage sensing detects the nano bombs. Kakuzu's fire+wind combo is countered by Manda by shedding skin and going underground, then he comes up beneath Kakuzu and snaps him up in his jaws. 100 puppets get wrecked by snake summons, Gamabunta's sword, or wind release. Oro can use Kusanagi to attack Deidara in the air or intercept his clay birds, and Jiraiya can make a shadow clone beforehand to fight in his stead of his abilities are needed (Tsunade can enhance the clone's attacks). Actually, Tsunade can just pump Jiraiya full of chakra so the summoning ritual takes less time...not sure if that last part would work tho.

 

[Worm]

Man. Sasori, Deidara and Kakuzu got some amazing team skills.

- Raiton: Gian expands Sasori's Iron Sand amount massively by directly affecting it's electromagnets -> massive tsunami of Iron Sand, Kakuzu and Sasori can keep on doing this

- Sasori arms all of Deidara's birds that are carrying them and his teammates in Iron Sand armor, replacting the Iron Sand Golem feat but on a smaller scale unless he and Kakuzu wanna go for a huge ass golem instead

- Sasori arms Deidara's projectiles in Iron Sand Spears while Kakuzu replicates Gaara's and Shukaku feats of using their Fuuton to blow forward the Sand like bullets -> Iron Sand Spears have ridiculous speed and upon impact, Deidara detonates the bombs being carried by Iron Sand Spears

- Deidara fills the battlefield with C4 and clay mines while creating Clay Clones for all of his teammates while Sasori can transfer some chakra from his 290+ Human Puppet chakra reserves into his teammates

Tsunade and Hidan, even after being armed by Sasori, are more or less non-factors.

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[Joshutsu]

Deidara solos them with his C3? i think that one is

 

[Rιver]

Tsunade uses Byakogou to boost Wind Release: Great Breakthrough so that it knocks away Deidara's homing missiles. Kakuzu can't scratch Manda, and Sasori can only hurt him with his iron sand blocks (sand is weak to oil, so Bunta sprays the iron sand and it dissolves.) Deidara won't use C3 as it will hurt his teammates, and C4 won't be used before Jiraiya enters SM if Deidara is IC- and Sage sensing detects the nano bombs. Kakuzu's fire+wind combo is countered by Manda by shedding skin and going underground, then he comes up beneath Kakuzu and snaps him up in his jaws. 100 puppets get wrecked by snake summons, Gamabunta's sword, or wind release. Oro can use Kusanagi to attack Deidara in the air or intercept his clay birds, and Jiraiya can make a shadow clone beforehand to fight in his stead of his abilities are needed (Tsunade can enhance the clone's attacks). Actually, Tsunade can just pump Jiraiya full of chakra so the summoning ritual takes less time...not sure if that last part would work tho.

That requires time that they don't have, and Deidara doesn't have just one missile but he can launch many at conjunction. Not even that, if his Fuuton even became a liability as you noted, Deidara can plant his bombs in IS and guarantee a surprise explosion. Either way, Deidara is versatile when it comes to bombs anyway. If IS doesn't hit, the bombs will.

Sasori can hurt it just like he hurts any other person/animal; it's poisoned, so once Manda is scratched it gets immobilized and dies a slow and painful death.

That's if Orochimaru ever lands a hit, while Deidara and Sasori barrage bombed IS in the battlefield. So what is not happening in your scenario is:

1. Jiraiya going to Sage Mode at all. He dies due to Satetsu Kaihou + the bombs implanted.

2. Orochimaru and Tsunade are never ever going to fend them off even for a second. To be honest, Sasori and Deidara are the only ones needed to destroy them and once Kakuzu and Hidan have kept Jiraiya busy for even a minute the quad-gang annihilate HM Jiraiya.

As I said, no chance of victory here.

 

[Worm]

Tsunade uses Byakogou to boost Wind Release: Great Breakthrough so that it knocks away Deidara's homing missiles. Kakuzu can't scratch Manda, and Sasori can only hurt him with his iron sand blocks (sand is weak to oil, so Bunta sprays the iron sand and it dissolves.) Deidara won't use C3 as it will hurt his teammates, and C4 won't be used before Jiraiya enters SM if Deidara is IC- and Sage sensing detects the nano bombs. Kakuzu's fire+wind combo is countered by Manda by shedding skin and going underground, then he comes up beneath Kakuzu and snaps him up in his jaws. 100 puppets get wrecked by snake summons, Gamabunta's sword, or wind release. Oro can use Kusanagi to attack Deidara in the air or intercept his clay birds, and Jiraiya can make a shadow clone beforehand to fight in his stead of his abilities are needed (Tsunade can enhance the clone's attacks). Actually, Tsunade can just pump Jiraiya full of chakra so the summoning ritual takes less time...not sure if that last part would work tho.

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There's literally no reason for the Akatsuki members to work individually like you are implying they would. In fact, it would benefit them all except Hidan to get up into the air on Deidara's birds. And neither of them care about Hidan atm or have problems with using their own comrade as a meat shield. Sasori, Deidara and Kakuzu all hop on multiple birds and fly away which means the scenario in which Deidara uses C3 is fully possible.

Iron Sand cannot be dissolved by oil. Hope you realize that such a thing applies only to normal sand, and even then it, took oil plus water for it to be unusable. Normal sand falls to electricity, Iron Sand is buffed by it. Clearly different workings. Oil can't do anything to a completely different type of material to normal sand. At best, it will power up Deidara's explosives once he creates a heated reaction near the oil.

Powered up Wind Breakthrough is easily countered by Sasori arming Deidara's bombs in Spears and then using his magnetical force to row through the pushing force of the Fuuton. At worst, Kakuzu helps them replicate what Gaara and Shukaku did by using Atsugai, that is naturally a lot more powerful than Wind Breakthrough, to increase the pushing force of Deidara's and Sasori's attack by pushing Sasori's IS downwards like a bullet.

Unlikely Jiraiya manages to enter SM once Kakuzu uses Gian to affect Iron Sand's electromagnets and expand the amount of it massively. More so, I'd like a page that SM can see C4 on a molecular level because just sensing it won't do the trick. Sasuke thought C4 was a dud when it poofed and Deidara's chakra that was filling it got released out of it. He even breathed C4 in and only noticed that the bomb wasn't a dud when he saw bombs on a molecular level. In other words, seeing Deidara's cloud of chakra being released from the bomb shape that poofed away will not make you think the chakra cloud is dangerous. You will just think Deidara's bomb was a dud and that because the shape poofed, the chakra stored inside got released and is just a waste. Kusanagi gets countered by either Kakuzu, Sasori or Deidara if it tries nearing Deidara.

With Deidara's clay mines and Sasori's Iron Sand covering the battlefield, they will not only own the whole battlefield as their own field, but they will also have better defenses and attacks due to Gian expanding Iron Sand to massive amounts and Deidara being able to create village-level bombs.

 

[Beans2]

Ugh I'm getting gang banged by AZ disciples and I'm on my phone, in a foreign country, on shitty wifi. I'll just take the L here.

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

No but seriously, deidara only beats base jiraiya armless Oro and Tsunade.

 

[~Sky~]

I think this would be a more fair match up if Jiraiya started in SM and Oro had his Zetsu body, honestly.

Akatskui should win mid-high diff, they complement each other too well.

 

[Zexion~]

Increased fuuton = Increased combination when Kakuzu counters it with Katon.

Just one of the lame arguments for the sannin.

 

[DrProof]

Honestly, I don't see how the Akatsuki lose.

Jiraiya doesn't start in SM, and as people are blatantly forgetting PRESSURE is a counter. J-man wouldn't be able to enter SM, due to being pressured heavily by all three -- Kakuzu's elemental barrage - Deidara's C variations - Sasori's Iron Sand.

Tsunade is a non-factor except Katsuyu which is easily taken out by Kakuzu, and/or Deidara via explosions, and/or elemental barrage.

Orohimaru is the only threat; Edo Tensei. Edo Tensei requires prep I believe, and once again PRESSURE counters this. Overall, team Akatsuki has too much pressure for team Sannin.