Sannin can beat any Akatsuki pair

[The Work]

The Sannin cannot beat Tobi and Pain/Nagato

 

[Bigfoot34501]

I agree on Deidara and Itachi's team, but I dont believe they can beat pain (konan isnt really a factor) even together

The Sannin cannot beat Tobi and Pain/Nagato

Jiraiya alone took out 3 paths of Pain, I think that the three of them could take them all down

 

[Finn]

Jiraiya alone took out 3 paths of Pain, I think that the three of them could take them all down

Yet Deva path was not present till the very end, and deva is the path that actually has the abilities that could wipe out all 3 (shinra tensei, bansho tenin, chibaku tensei) all jutsu is rendered useless by preta, one touch from human path and their soul is out, and nakara path to revive any paths that may get destroyed

Summons dont really count here as pains ones kind of cancel out the sannins ones.

 

[Tazzilla88]

you are really dumb c4 and and iron are a nasty mix and that c3 dragon GTFOH kakuzu can easily whipe them out and there little combos are to affective and kakuzu is quick with monster strenth and pool of chakra

Tsunade could solo Kakuzu

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What happens if Tsunade punches him in the head?
Everyone says Tsunade can't touch him but how can he kill her?
And do you guys seriously believe Kakuzu's skin is harder than Susanoo?

If he grabs her with her black threads she'll do exactly what she did to Orochimaru when he grabbed her with his tongue. Grabbing her is a bad idea. Period.

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According to the Databook Tsunade's taijutsu is a tier better than his, also according to the databook his speed is only slightly better than hers where she has a 3.5 he has a 4. His stamina is less than hers. We know that she can do the same things as Kabuto

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she would have no way to make a comparison between herself and kabuto if their styles of fighting were completely different. Kakuzu would have no defense against body pathway derangement.
Yes flesh is more yielding which is what allows it to take more force than hard objects but Earth Spear makes his body hard, which makes it easier to break.

Actually he's only a smidge faster than her. His lightning attack was slow enough for kakashi to come from off panel not only to intercept but double raikiri. Tell me again why she can't tank his B rank fire technique? Which means perhaps his flame release coupled with wind is the only threat. But fatigued Kakashi (used 4 raikiris already) dodged it when it was coupled with the wind tech.
We can't really say whether its a raiton, but we know she can turn her chakra in to electricity and that's all that's need for her punches or she could just touch him with that technique and he can't move and she can kill him.

• A punch to the head renders him dead and the hearts moot
• Logically if she can turn her chakra into electricity and send it through her fingers and into someone when she touches them, then nothing stops her from sending the electricity to her fingers as she punches. It may or may not be considered raiton but logically she could do it.
• Your right the threads can come from anywhere but I somehow doubt that'll work as easily when she's aware he lives.
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• Actually, Hidan stabbed himself in the middle of his body, Kakuzu has a heart there
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  If kakuzu has 5 hearts and four of them are behind those masks, then that would mean his own natural heart would be in the center. So yes, if she punched in the head, he would still lose his head and die. A punch to the face from her unless you're your body has extreme elasticity (Orochimaru) is decapitation, and if your body is more malleable you still don't have the stamina to still fight after one punch to the face as Oro demonstated, this being the same guy that on his deathbed went against 4-tails Naruto and didn't simply quit from being hit like he did against Tsunade.
• Electricity would give her the elemental boost to break through the Earth, though she really doesn't need it anyway.
• Actually her natural strength is legendary. The way her strength technique works is through building up chakra in a particular body member then releasing the chakra at the exact moment her body member makes contact with its target. It's like a mini-chakra explosion in her fists. However, that technique would not work when lifting and maneuvering something
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  And as you pointed out the "chakra explosions" wouldn't help in breaking out of traps or pulling yet she was able to do that with her natural strength here
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And that is without Katsuyu
And Deidara isn't Kukazu's partner. Hidan is. Oro solos him and Jiraiya does research.
Deidara would be a problem assuming they allowed him to get that far. If Oro can stall for J-man, Frog Song takes him out. Tsunade takes out Sasori. And Deidara never starts with C4 or C0. Too much ego. In addition, he would hesitate to try and use those as it would mean killing his partner.

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Yes he has poison but she has antidote and Byakougou would regen her liver and stop her from facing the ill-effects of the poison. Tsunade is smarter than Sakura there is no reason she couldn't defeat the Third kazekage puppet in the same way Sakura did. IIRC I don't remember Sasori's heart moving on its own. In some sort of wierd luck after being caught by the seal the heart was launched into another body. He heart has no way of moving itself so unless he gets lucky again.

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Tsunade would win. And we also know when Tsunade sees the hundred puppets she will not back down

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Tsunade would be smashing puppets like so.

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And due to her experience with puppetmasters I doubt she would make a conscience effort to fighting the entire hundred rather than just fighting her way to the body controling them. Once that body is actually destroyed (Tsunade is by far stronger than Sakura) only 10 puppets could be used at a time max. What allowed him to use 101 puppets at once was the special panel in his body seen here

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The puppet speed isn't exactly amazing either considering Sakura not only saw the attack coming to Chiyo but managed to intercept it.

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And given the location of that wound and the angle of the blade Sakura could have pushed the blade aside with her left hand and attacked with her right and finished. But she was panicking and plot demanded chiyo have a technique to save Gaara. Tsunade would beat him high diff.

deva path chibaku tensei solos them GTFOH

As long as Tsunade protects her partners and takes out Preta I'm fairly sure they could win.

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Let's see Katsuyu tanked chibaku tensei when she was on Naruto and she tanked tanked Shinra tensei while protecting people. So she could probably shield the sannin during CT. Tsunade can tank Shinra tensei fp without medical jutsu and presumably without using chakra. She also developed a counter to weaker Shinra Tensei's

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she can also use that jutsu to counter bansho ten'in. If she allows herself to be caught by bansho tenin when she gets to the body that's attracted her, as she flies toward him cocks back a punch and delivers it as soon as she's in range eliminating Deva path. Bansho Ten-in is a bad move against her. Oro would counter with skin shedding after was wounded and sword of kusunagi.

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So I was just re-reading through the Pein arc and and I just realized Tsunade tanked Shinra Tensei FP. This isn't really deep but it's something I just noticed because I was in the heat of the moment originally.

• Here she is healing the village and the seal in unbroken.
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• Here she is talking to Pein after she's healed the village. The seal is still unbroken (using multiple pictures to show its not a mistake like when Kishi accidently gave raikage back his arm)
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  (it looks as though Tsunade was about to fight him based on what the Anbu said)
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• This is Tsunade chasing after Pein to stop him, making her closer to the initial point of contact for Shinra Tensei FP - seal unbroken
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  This is Tsunade after she's realized he's got more up his sleeves than what has already been used the seal is still unbroken (using this picture to show that Tsunade isn't running away from the epicenter of Shinra Tensei in the picture above)
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• This is Tsunade after Shinra Tensei hits -no seal
  
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  What's even more impressive is that she didn't use Creation Rebirth on herself as she's bleeding.
  Tsunade used Katsuya to protect the other villagers but there is not Katsuyu with her.
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• Bearing in mind Tsunade has already expended a lot of chakra to heal the villagers, then tanking a full Shinra Tensei up close in personal is quite a feat.
  And she had the stamina to climb from under the collaspbed building and beat the Anbu to the scene
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  before ... being blitzed.
• So My point being after healing the village, and summoning Katsuyu (which as Jiraiya and Naruto showed us requires a bit of chakra to summon large creatures)
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  she tanked Shinra Tensei and rehealed the village.

After Deva path wears himself out with his hax jutsus the real battle begins. Jiraiya could have taken his time inside of CT to prepare Sagemode while Safely inside of Katsuyu. At which point he could attack the core with his strongest jutsu or safely wait for the chakra Deva is using to keep up the technique to give out. Like wise Tsunade can smash her way to surface and wait inside Katsuyu for the technique to end. Orochimaru can use his soft physique technique to get to the surfact then wait for the technique to end. But Deva only uses CT and ST-FP when he's not using the other paths so if those jutsus aren't working there's nothing he can do about it. For Preta path Tsunade's natural strength is great enough to lift Gamabunta's sword so she could destroy Preta with taijutsu. Naraka path would lose to her also as would try to grab her by the throat. And we know what happens when you grab Tsunade. So she takes out those two paths. Oro could take out Asura techniques like soft body, gathering of snakes, and skin shedding would invalidate Asura's attacks.Human path would have a hard time touching Oro as he can mend with his surroundings. Whereas Oro can take him out. Human doesn't have any spectacular feats really. Jiraiya screws Konan with his oil again then lights her ablaze and she's defeated (Don't go on about that jutsu she used on Tobi, iirc she had set up time and there is Jiraiya and Gamabunta's oil to consider, oil screws it all). Frog Song could defeat the remaining paths. Toad Oil Flame Bullet could present problems as could Goemon.

I dun think so... sasori/deidara were too awesome and hidans sorta immortal...so yeah

Tsunade could defeat the Earth heart (though if she punches him more than one heart will go missing) or one shot his head then have jiraiya finish him off. In fact now that I think about it Tsunade solos this team. Katsuyu could solo Hidan. I've explained how Tsunade beats Kakuzu. But to make it more fair for Hidan in addition to Katsuyu, Oro slices and dices him with kusunagi as he melts or is trampled by katsuyu. Jiraiya is conducting research. Hidan may not be dead but he can't attack.

They cant beat tobi or pain... tobi can solo the sannin

This is Sharingan Tobi. Jiraiya solos with Sage Art: Hair Needle Senbon.

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But so i don't get accused of underrating (though all we've seen from sharingan tobi is s/t and izanagi that'd be hard to do). Orochimaru attacks him with edo-Hashirama. While Jiraiya prepares Sage Mode. Then it's over.

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Even with his edo-jinchuriki paths and rinnegan he faces problems

Personally I BELIEVE given the feats that the Sannin all have chakras comparable to bijuus
The problem with Izangi is that it lasts for only one minute which means and every path can only use it once. And if you take out the main caster the paths will follow.
But I say Jiraiya takes out a bijuu with his unnamed Barrier when it tries to attack. He can seal a bijuu away in Barrier Toad Gourd Prison. Tsunade can probably throw (punch) one into a Toad Shop. Which leaves 3 bijuus and Tobi
Are you guys ready for the kicker? Oro summons the First Hokage who uses him mokuton to tame the tailed beasts and revert them back to their human forms. (assuming they ever managed to transform). The each recieve a 5 elements seal from each of the Sannin (Jiraiya said they all can do it) at which point they can no longer go bijuu mode though edo-hashirama is there just in case they do. From this point Sage Art:Goemon takes out one while Hashirama and Tobirama do battle with another, Tsunade is fighting one and oro is distracting Tobi. (let's face it you can't afford to take your eyes off of any of the Sannin in combat nor can you take your eyes of the any of the hokages) If Tsunade lands a heavenly kick of Pein it is all over for that path, samething goes for Body Pathway derangement, her chakra scapels, an army of mini katsuya's acid. By the way Byakougou is active.
I don't doubt that Orochimaru will wounded after his stalling encounter with Tobi but with Skin Shedding and Snake Gathering he'll recover from his wounds. Tobi will most likely have used Izanagi by now. Since Jiraiya is now free it would be best for him to restrain any remain jinchuriiki's with Wild Lion's Mane and Tsunade destroys them with her monster strength. Which leaves a fatigued Jiraiya, Tsunade, and Oro the respective summons and edo-hashirama and edo-tobirama against still fairly healthy One eyed Tobi. If Jiraiya uses Sage Art: Kebari Senbon continually Tobi will have to phase using out that tech. From there Oro may use Formation of ten thousand snakes to bind and poison him, or Tsunade may use her Body Pathway Derangement, or Jiraiya may use Toad Flatness Shadow Manipulating technique to hold Tobi still. Which ever sannin immobilizes him , the remaining two finish him off. That my friends is the power of the Sannin.

YES, I'm aware there are things possibilities I didn't mention on both sides of the argument but I feel they even themselves out. A large problem with this theory is we are unsure of what Tobi is capable of just yet and I'd be more than happy to revisit this scenario when we know more about his abilities.
Tobi or the Sannin could take this depending on variable but because of their experience as a team as compared to Tobi recent acquisition of the paths and the rinnegan I will say that Sannins take this Extremely High Difficulty. Though Gedo Mazo may completely screw them over but we don't know enough about it to know it's weaknesses yet and we know every technique has one. Therefore I didn't include because I can't reason on it.

Itachi and Kisame will do some trouble....:shrug:

I agree they are the most troublesome pair the Sannin need near perfect teamwork on this but pull a win.

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I'm going to quote the Sasuke-Itachi thread because I don't feel like re-typing how to beat Itachi.

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Here's the problem. We haven't seen Tsunade's limit on strength yet so let's not say what her strength can't do.
Secondly, Full Susanoo does not protect from underground and there is an Earth User on this team capable of making a Swamp of the Underworld capable of sinking Manda when his chakra was only at 30 percent. And capable of doing a fire tech that dwarfed Katsuya, Gamabunta, and Manda.
Tsunade and Orochimaru can stall for Jiraiya to prepare Sage Mode. In the meantime he has many other frog summons to fight and help stall while he prepares SM.
Susanoo has 4 weaknesses we know of. The ground, brute strength, extreme heat, and acid. The Sannin have every one of those. The Ground and Heat goes to Jiraiya (Earth release, and he has fire techs such as Toad Oil Flame Bullet and Goemon). Tsunade has the brute strength and the acid via katsuya.
Obviously, the next argument to come up is Genjutsu. But consider this Jiraiya has at least 4 summons he has used in battle and another one he was going to use against kisame, there is katsuyu, Manda, Orochimaru, Jiraiya and Tsunade. That is 10 beings that must be caught in genjutsu at once. If the bros don't watch the sannin they'd break out themselves, but if they keep an eye on the sannin the summons can insert chakra into those affected by genjutsu or physically hurt them to get out of genjutsu. In fact if a mini katsuyu is on everyone's back like a leech she'd only have to insert chakra or do a mini acid. If they go for the controlling the summons then the sannin will just release them from the genjutsu. If everyone on team Sannin, summons included had a Katsuyu on their back while the rest of Katsuyu did battle, if katsuyu got caught anyone can save her and if anyone else got katsuyu could save them.
After genjutsu their is the threat of Amaterasu. That's always the next line of defense. Say they do hit a sannin with it. Orochimaru sheds his skin. Hitting Tsunade with it is a bad idea because the next time she goes to attack them, they'd be screwed trying to put out the black flames she just put on them. If you think well Susanoo will protect them, the flames that were on Sasuke's susanoo were not attacking it but as Mei's lava showed, Susanoo melts and if the black flames are attacking and the flames are hotter than Mei's lava Susanoo will melt and the bros will still be screwed. Amaterasu suppression seems like it takes a lot out of you based on Sasuke's response when he fought Bee. You may argue she'd be in too much Pain to fight back. But I don't think so. She was completely impaled and continued to fight, 3 yasaka magatamas at point blank range didn't stop her, nor did hemophobia in conjunction with the sword of kusanagi's three wounds and Kabuto cutting her abdomen, respiratory, and bicep muscles. Which leaves Jiraiya its a well known fact that Jiraiya has fire seals. We also know that a regular katon can fight Amaterasu because Sasuke did it. This is speculation and isn't really included in my argument but jiraiya took those flames for research he may have found there weakness as Itachi says every jutsu has a weakness and he is amaterasu user. So spamming Amaterasu would be a lost cause here. End of the speculation disclaimer. In addition Sage Mode allows you to sense and Jiraiya would sense speedy attacks and thanks to his reflex boost from SM be able to dodge in all likelihood. Which brings us to Susanoo arrows. Orochimaru has his Rashoumon Gates, Body Shedding, Gathering of Snakes, and Slithering Snake. Jiraiya has his sensing and his reflexes and Tsunade has her Byakougou. Oro has info on Itachi, and sasuke's abilities are really only that of Itachi's sense they are the same eyes.
Let's not forget Jiraiya's unnamed Barrier that IIRC took out the human path. Should someone mistakenly enter it, they die. The bros can't just safely sit in Susanoo and win. If they come to use taijutsu against Jiraiya and don't know about the barrier, one of them dies. 1 vs the 3 will lose.

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Your assuming Katsuyu's acid can do nothing to Susanoo but you have nothing to support your claim. We've seen that Susanoo is weak to acid. We've never seen it withstand acid. Katsuyu's acid melts through solid rock. Mei's lava melted the Susanoo skeleton. Goemon would have no trouble doing the same. With 7 summons present he'd need to get all of them in genjutsu at once and stop the sannin from awakening them. And as I've stated Katsuyu is the counter to Genjutsu with such large numbers. Orochimaru prime and Tsunade and 5 summons are more than enough to stall for the preparation of Jiraiya's sage Mode. You don't actually have any proof to support your conclusion except (Uh Itachi beat Orochimaru, and Sasuke beat an Orochimaru on his deathbed.) Those arguments fail as Oro didn't have intent to harm at all. He only wanted to take over the body against Itachi. Oro was half dead when he fought sasuke. Tsunade provides rather good counters to the sharingan. But I've already explained why they will not lose.

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So I assume every one is standing perfectly still so the bros can pull this of right(genjutsu spam and amaterasu spam). Because the summons will be looking the uchihas in the eye and while casting genjutsu they will simultaneously spamming amaterasu and shooting arrows. Susanoo arrow against Tsunade is pointless and Katsuya can just let the part of her that is on fire separate from the rest of her. But with it becoming a 10 on two fight I really don't see this techs just being spammed. With ten on one opponents can overwhelm When have we ever seen a full susanoo dodge a large attack. Show me one page. Susanoo may be tougher than a rib cage but when Susanoo is melting it is also weaker. Jiraiya can melt it and so can Katsuyu. And Tsunade is stronger than raikage and if raikage with oonoki's help can do this much damage to a melting susanoo one step away from being complete

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(even with Oonoki's help he didn't crack a healthy (not melting) susanoo rib cage) (it took his strongest tech against Sasuke (full body slam aka raiger bomb)to break a rib on the rib cage where as a punch from Tsunade cracked several ribs and a single punch snapped the sword) then there is no logical reason Tsunade can't do the same to a melting full Susanoo or why several strikes won't break through Susanoo. She doesn't have to finish Susanoo with one punch.

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wow wat thats all u got hahahah heal the leaf i think not her slug did tht not here get ur facts straight.

lol wat fire tec does tsunade have please let me kno?


ur going to make eye contact no matter wat so please dont say anything stupid like dat thats y gai said look at there feet an asuma said thats not easy we dont have ur training.

I'll save you the trouble of looking up Healing Chakra Transmission

A combination technique between Tsunade and her slug summon Katsuyu. First, Katsuyu divides her body into many smaller clones, and then attaches herself to several persons. Tsunade then channels her medical chakra through Katsuyu, who transfers it to the wounded person, healing them. This technique allows Tsunade to heal an enormous number of people at the same time regardless of distance. If she runs out of normal chakra, she can use her special reserves to continue the technique. While using this technique, Tsunade is apparently also able to communicate directly with Katsuyu as well as have a sense of what Katsuyu experiences as seen with her reaction after Katsuyu finds Kakashi on the battlefield.

So it was Tsunade's chakra.
Edit: This is Tsunade using the technique

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I think what confused you was Danzo's mention of Katsuyu's techniques later in the chapter but he was referring to her Great Division and Tsunade being able to channel chakra through Katsuyu as that isn't typical of most summons


2ndly you asked

amateratsu on tsunade is pointless wat how when the flames will never go away

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Because then she could continually set Susanoo or them on fire until she runs out of chakra and stamina. (and she has enough stamina to heal the hidden leaf, and she has enough stamina to use CR at the beginning of a fight, heal Oonoki and Gaara back to full power, then heal Mei, then regrow her stomach organs twice Byakougou.) so she'd be more dangerous for quite a while.

She would be on fire with Amaterasu flames and the brothers would have to continually squander chakra suppressing the flames of Amaterasu. Strategically it is a bad move setting her on fire.
Your going to make eye contact because why? Making eye contact doesn't help you at all. When I was learning martial arts we were taught to look at the body as it better shows what attack is next. Even with ninja, looking into eyes are pointless. Most jutsus come from hands and the jutsus that are optical can't be seen. So no looking someone in the eye makes no logical sense.

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@ the last part Your reaching for eye contact. There's no rational reason why either Jiraiya or Tsunade would look them in the eye and I'm certain non sharingan genjutsus can be broken out of by Tsunade and by SM Jiraiya you completely ignored the katsuyu argument used before in response to genjutsu.

And if Orochimaru hasn't learned his lesson about looking an Uchiha in the eye by now he does not deserve his 5 in intelligence.
Now let me say this now so I am not misunderstood again. Tsunade CANNOT solo Itachi

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If Tsunade loses it won't be a great loss. She is a very good counter to Uchihas in general. The Same way Hashirama was a good counter to Madara and his Mokuton a good counter to Kurama.
Allow me to lay out my case.

• Amaterasu covered Susanoo- Tsunade can rip off or Medically Cut off her arm or leg or whatever. And guessing by how she regrew all those organs she lost when her entire stomach was impaled she can probably regrow them. Furthermore when know she has an incredible mental fortitude that allows her to work through pain as shown by her defending Naruto and launching an attack after being Stabbed by the sword of kusanagi and sliced by it.
• Tsukuyomi- Firstly I believe she has the mental fortitude to withstand Tsukuyomi considering she overcame her paralyzing hemophobia with sheer will power.Further more we all know that Tsukuyomi is genjutsu. Of all characters living she has the best chakra control. We know her chakra control is great because she says healing requires a lot of chakra. Yet she healed an entire village.
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  Genjutsu is created when a ninja extends their chakra flow through the cerebral nervous system of their opponent to control their mind's chakra, thereby affecting their five senses.

  You may now say Itachi said only Closely related Uchihas can break Tsukuyomi. If you consider that Itachi lies to protect his brother and he plotted for his brother to get his eyes. Then if anyone knew this wasn't true that would put Sasuke in danger. Thus we're not sure if Itachi's words are true. As she can treat Tsukuyomi.
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  Judging by how easily it was cured. I say she has a pretty good knowledge about how Tsukuyomi works and how exactly it affects the brain. In addition we know she lived to meet her Grandfather and GrandUncle. Her Grandfather fought against Madara several times so no doubt he taught her not to get trapped in Genjutsu and not to look an Uchiha in the eyes. Furthermore I'm sure he would have showed her a technique similar to Gai's sharigan avoidance. Given Gai isn't that smart. (He thought Kisame was his true self.) I see know reason Tsunade can't do the same. And we don't know how Uchiha genjutsu's affect people of the Senju clan. Itachi probably never fought an Senju and wouldn't have known whether they were capable of breaking it or not. And I imagine Madara and the Elder son of the So6P would have had an easier time if Senju's fell pray to their Genjutsus. In addition a mini katsuya on her shoulder would be able to inject chakra into Tsunade's system.
• Susanoo- Tsunade's punch shatter cracked Susanoo's ribs
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  Her kick shatter Susanoo's ribs
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  Some of you may say well the other Kages helped. My answer is that they didn't help with this
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  You guys may say A full susanoo is stronger, but if one her punches creates such damage to a version of Susanoo it's really only a matter of strikes til full Susanoo gives way. We also know that Raikage punched through Susanoo's skelton (with Oonoki's help) after Mei melted it with lava
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  Tsunade has Katsuya to provide melting via acid and Tsunade is still physically stronger than the A and Oonoki combo (as only her hits actually broke Susanoo's ribs when he reformed them though A and Oonoki tried) she should be able to do the same.
• Fire Release- Her skin will be burned but it's tankable.
• Yasaka Magatama- She literally tanked three of them right after being impaled.

Itachi I would say wins only because of his acquisition of the yata mirror and the sword of Totsuka
However, if Itachi has taken her as lightly as his fans do and doesn't use those two items then Tsunade can take him, with her strength, her summon, her medical knowledge, her regeneration, her poison, and her Pathway Disturbance. If at any point any of her attacks make contact with his actual body then He's done. The fact of the matter remains Tsunade is a top tier shinobi with the counters to the sharingan.

Notice he would have to not have his weapons for to have a chance at it. Even then it's a small chance. He will user his weapons so she can't do it alone. When I talked about Amaterasu add what I said in the Itachi-Sasuke thread about it being bad strategy for Tsunade there.
Kisame is the weaker link of the two. Jiraiya could solo him but he's needed to help against Itachi. So after Sage Mode is up Goemon could pretty much one shot Kisame. Kisame's only counter to Goemon is Super Water Shark jutsu. Tsunade would counter his Super Water Shark jutsu. Throw in another Toad Oil Flame Bullet for good measure and he's def done for. That leaves the three against Itachi and Itachi will lose.

I think I've covered the major threats here.

 

[rai shado]

almost pain was holding back massicively chibaku tensei the sanin are all dead untill you find out a way they can escape him stop typing

Oro brings in edo madara and hashirama if possible, though madara would be enough. Enough said :scorps:

 

[Bogard]

I think the name Sannin is overestimated. I think there are many other current ninjas who are stronger than the sannin. They only got that name cuz they were the one who fought against Hanzo and at that time they were the strongest. They were not capable to beat Hanzo when Mifune did it with ease and alone.

 

[Baka Sennin]

they can beat all of them imo, most pairs with high difficulty though. but they won't beat any pair which includes Tobi, or Tobi alone.

the most trouble they'll have is with Deidara+Sasori and Itachi+Kisame imo, Jiraiya has an excellent counter for Konan and the three sannin can beat the 6 paths imo.

btw, this whole Itachi beats Orochimaru with one move is a massively flawed idea. He stopped Orochimaru from attempting to absorb him with one move, and thus made any further attempts of Orochimaru's useless, he can't take over Itachi as long as he has the sharingan. BUT, Orochimaru can break out of Itachi's normal genjutsu, and he can puke him self up and sow body parts back together with snakes, even in a very sick state. The only two moves that Itachi has to one-shot Orochimaru are the Totsuka sword and Tsukuyomi, and there are ways around both. Orochimaru has excellent ninjutsu of his own, and while Itachi is stronger and will still win, he won't defeat him easily.

 

[darthvader5666]

Pain can solo (by feats, though Hashirama can beat Pain by hype), so can Tobi (especially with Rinnegan). Itachi and Kisame might be able to pull it off. I agree about the rest though.

 

[Drakengard]

CT could probably be avoided by using Katsuyu as a defense. A mini-one survived the encounter, so a larger one should do the same. After Pein wastes a load of chakra, Manda could be used to dig them out (Oro can also LAC out of there).

 

[GodaimeRaikage]

Yet Deva path was not present till the very end, and deva is the path that actually has the abilities that could wipe out all 3 (shinra tensei, bansho tenin, chibaku tensei) all jutsu is rendered useless by preta, one touch from human path and their soul is out, and nakara path to revive any paths that may get destroyed

Summons dont really count here as pains ones kind of cancel out the sannins ones.

Pain summons don't cancel out the sannins.Orochimaru has been shown to summon numerous snakes in battle.Jiraiya could summon the three giant toads while Tsunade can summon Katsuya.Just on number and strength the Sannin have the clear advantage in summonings.Only one of Pain(Nagato) summons will pose a serious problem, and that's the multiplying dog.

 

[Turson]

Tsunade takes out Sasori.

Not really. Poisons dont paralyze by destroying nervous cells, but by messing up their working. Regeneration wont help at all.

 

[Sazzi]

i actually doubt they could take deidara and sasori, ... unless u put jiraiya in sage mode right of the bat, cause if this team actually attacks together they are a force to be reckoned with, and i dont no too many teams of ppl that could take them... they cant take itachi and kisame, and no they cant take out kisame as easy as most ppl think... nagato (as in the 6 paths of pain) and konan , no... they could take kakuzu and hidan out pretty easily... i think that covers all the pairs... they can only take out one of the actual pairs... if u miss match them u can probably find others...

 

[GodaimeRaikage]

Not really. Poisons dont paralyze by destroying nervous cells, but by messing up their working. Regeneration wont help at all.

Yes, you said that before.And I still disagree.Poison effects the nervous systems.The nervous systems is made up of cells.How poison effects the nervous system is the question.And mostly like poison has to effect the cells in some way.If Tsunade uses Creation rebirth and create new cells, the poison becomes useless.

 

[naruttebayo]

I bet that the Sannin together can, aka have the ability, to beat any Akatsuki pair if they are all healthy

The only two pairs I could see giving them trouble are Deidara and Tobi and obviously Pain and Konan

Agree or Disagree?

agree

 

[Turson]

How poison effects the nervous system is the question.

Just read about neurotoxins.

If Tsunade uses Creation rebirth and create new cells, the poison becomes useless.

It rebirth cells that were destroyed. Sasoris poison dont destroy nervous cells. Sasoris poison wouldnt kill Tsunade, but it would left her paralyzed.

 

[Urda]

All the Akatsuki Pair would give them trouble. Why people only point out one Pair such as Itachi and Kisame? -SMH- I am still undecided on measuring the Sannin skills and abilities as a 3-Man Cell.

 

[Sazzi]

also poison spreads from old currupted cells to new cells and destroys them as well... tsunade would be able to stay alive for a longer time but would eventually need to use an anti serum to get rid of the poison... and even with staying alive for a long time it would still have some effect over her, not sure if it would be debilitating, but it would be detrimental...imo

 

[Bigfoot34501]

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Tsunade could solo Kakuzu
And that is without Katsuyu
And Deidara isn't Kukazu's partner. Hidan is. Oro solos him and Jiraiya does research.
Deidara would be a problem assuming they allowed him to get that far. If Oro can stall for J-man, Frog Song takes him out. Tsunade takes out Sasori. And Deidara never starts with C4 or C0. Too much ego. In addition, he would hesitate to try and use those as it would mean killing his partner.

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Yes he has poison but she has antidote and Byakougou would regen her liver and stop her from facing the ill-effects of the poison. Tsunade is smarter than Sakura there is no reason she couldn't defeat the Third kazekage puppet in the same way Sakura did. IIRC I don't remember Sasori's heart moving on its own. In some sort of wierd luck after being caught by the seal the heart was launched into another body. He heart has no way of moving itself so unless he gets lucky again.

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Tsunade would win. And we also know when Tsunade sees the hundred puppets she will not back down

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Tsunade would be smashing puppets like so.

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And due to her experience with puppetmasters I doubt she would make a conscience effort to fighting the entire hundred rather than just fighting her way to the body controling them. Once that body is actually destroyed (Tsunade is by far stronger than Sakura) only 10 puppets could be used at a time max. What allowed him to use 101 puppets at once was the special panel in his body seen here

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The puppet speed isn't exactly amazing either considering Sakura not only saw the attack coming to Chiyo but managed to intercept it.

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And given the location of that wound and the angle of the blade Sakura could have pushed the blade aside with her left hand and attacked with her right and finished. But she was panicking and plot demanded chiyo have a technique to save Gaara. Tsunade would beat him high diff.

As long as Tsunade protects her partners and takes out Preta I'm fairly sure they could win.

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Let's see Katsuyu tanked chibaku tensei when she was on Naruto and she tanked tanked Shinra tensei while protecting people. So she could probably shield the sannin during CT. Tsunade can tank Shinra tensei fp without medical jutsu and presumably without using chakra. She also developed a counter to weaker Shinra Tensei's

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she can also use that jutsu to counter bansho ten'in. If she allows herself to be caught by bansho tenin when she gets to the body that's attracted her, as she flies toward him cocks back a punch and delivers it as soon as she's in range eliminating Deva path. Bansho Ten-in is a bad move against her. Oro would counter with skin shedding after was wounded and sword of kusunagi. After Deva path wears himself out with his hax jutsus the real battle begins. Jiraiya could have taken his time inside of CT to prepare Sagemode while Safely inside of Katsuyu. At which point he could attack the core with his strongest jutsu or safely wait for the chakra Deva is using to keep up the technique to give out. Like wise Tsunade can smash her way to surface and wait inside Katsuyu for the technique to end. Orochimaru can use his soft physique technique to get to the surfact then wait for the technique to end. But Deva only uses CT and ST-FP when he's not using the other paths so if those jutsus aren't working there's nothing he can do about it. For Preta path Tsunade's natural strength is great enough to lift Gamabunta's sword so she could destroy Preta with taijutsu. Naraka path would lose to her also as would try to grab her by the throat. And we know what happens when you grab Tsunade. So she takes out those two paths. Oro could take out Asura techniques like soft body, gathering of snakes, and skin shedding would invalidate Asura's attacks.Human path would have a hard time touching Oro as he can mend with his surroundings. Whereas Oro can take him out. Human doesn't have any spectacular feats really. Jiraiya screws Konan with his oil again then lights her ablaze and she's defeated (Don't go on about that jutsu she used on Tobi, iirc she had set up time and there is Jiraiya and Gamabunta's oil to consider, oil screws it all). Frog Song could defeat the remaining paths. Toad Oil Flame Bullet could present problems as could Goemon.

Tsunade could defeat the Earth heart (though if she punches him more than one heart will go missing) or one shot his head then have jiraiya finish him off. In fact now that I think about it Tsunade solos this team. Katsuyu could solo Hidan. I've explained how Tsunade beats Kakuzu. But to make it more fair for Hidan in addition to Katsuyu, Oro slices and dices him with kusunagi as he melts or is trampled by katsuyu. Jiraiya is conducting research. Hidan may not be dead but he can't attack.

This is Sharingan Tobi. Jiraiya solos with Sage Art: Hair Needle Senbon.

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But so i don't get accused of underrating (though all we've seen from sharingan tobi is s/t and izanagi that'd be hard to do). Orochimaru attacks him with edo-Hashirama. While Jiraiya prepares Sage Mode. Then it's over.

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Even with his edo-jinchuriki paths and rinnegan he faces problems

I agree they are the most troublesome pair the Sannin need near perfect teamwork on this but pull a win.

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I'm going to quote the Sasuke-Itachi thread because I don't feel like re-typing how to beat Itachi. And if Orochimaru hasn't learned his lesson about looking an Uchiha in the eye by now he does not deserve his 5 in intelligence.
Now let me say this now so I am not misunderstood again. Tsunade CANNOT solo Itachi Notice he would have to not have his weapons for to have a chance at it. Even then it's a small chance. He will user his weapons so she can't do it alone. When I talked about Amaterasu add what I said in the Itachi-Sasuke thread about it being bad strategy for Tsunade there.
Kisame is the weaker link of the two. Jiraiya could solo him but he's needed to help against Itachi. So after Sage Mode is up Goemon could pretty much one shot Kisame. Kisame's only counter to Goemon is Super Water Shark jutsu. Tsunade would counter his Super Water Shark jutsu. Throw in another Toad Oil Flame Bullet for good measure and he's def done for. That leaves the three against Itachi and Itachi will lose.

I think I've covered the major threats here.

Pretty solid analysis, but you forgot Tobi and Deidara, the biggest threat IMO

they can beat all of them imo, most pairs with high difficulty though. but they won't beat any pair which includes Tobi, or Tobi alone.

the most trouble they'll have is with Deidara+Sasori and Itachi+Kisame imo, Jiraiya has an excellent counter for Konan and the three sannin can beat the 6 paths imo.

btw, this whole Itachi beats Orochimaru with one move is a massively flawed idea. He stopped Orochimaru from attempting to absorb him with one move, and thus made any further attempts of Orochimaru's useless, he can't take over Itachi as long as he has the sharingan. BUT, Orochimaru can break out of Itachi's normal genjutsu, and he can puke him self up and sow body parts back together with snakes, even in a very sick state. The only two moves that Itachi has to one-shot Orochimaru are the Totsuka sword and Tsukuyomi, and there are ways around both. Orochimaru has excellent ninjutsu of his own, and while Itachi is stronger and will still win, he won't defeat him easily.

I know everyone overrates Itachi on the base, but what people should remember is that Oro would probably go for Kisame while Jiraiya and Tsunade would take Itachi. Like I said, it wouldn't be easy but the two of them could take him down considering their stamina monsters compared to him

CT could probably be avoided by using Katsuyu as a defense. A mini-one survived the encounter, so a larger one should do the same. After Pein wastes a load of chakra, Manda could be used to dig them out (Oro can also LAC out of there).

That was a giant Shinra Tensei, not Chibaku Tensei. But I bet that the Sannin's could find a way to destroy a CT like Itachi, Bee, and Naruto did

 

[Bigfoot34501]

They will die to itchi and kisame missrebelly

Miserably? No they could definitely beat those two

 

[Bigfoot34501]

It depends on if itachi is healthy

Even if he was healthy they could beat him. If two of them took on Itachi and fought intelligently, they could beat him. I should have pointed out in the OP that it wouldn't be easy, but it could be done