[VS] Sanji vs top executives

[Love Cook]

Sanji beats all but I don't have a clue about Vergo. I still feel like he hasn't been tested yet. Granted that Sanji wasn't going all out back than I'm not saying that he couldn't beat Vergo. But Vergo fell for a Devil Fruit trick.

Of course that is a fair way to fight because it is part of Law's power, but I also can see Luffy end up the same way vergo did even though Luffy is physically stronger than Law.

The way Vergo held his own against Law, Smoker and Sanji on Punk Hazard was pretty impressive. I think everybody would have a big struggle against him, and they were lucky he wasn't running around on Dressrosa.

 

[YellowFang]

Sanji Vs,

Diamante: is a swordsman with good agility and variety of utility of his DF. I give it to Sanji mid diff. at best.

Trebol: is IMO the most useless of the executives and is not much of a use against agile and Haki users.

Pica: is a good bet against close combat experts, I wonder if Sanji can bring him out of the rocks at all... Zoro destroyed the upper part of the giant rock mid-air leaving Pica with no chance but to appear. P.S. Zoro needed a little help doing so.
I'd like to hear people's opinion on it before deciding the victor.

Vergo: is physically stronger than Sanji, even though his main combat style is brawling and using Bamboo-stick, he was good enough to keep up with Sanji's base kicking attacks, that'd have been good enough but the thing is, Sanji fractured his bone against Vergo's defense. I'm giving it to Vergo high diff. at best.

 

[Vandenre1ch]

Sanji beats Diamante low diff tops with no injuries: Kyros only had so much trouble because of his lack of mobility and still one shotted Diamante at close range.

Sanji beats Trebol low diff tops with no injuries: Trebol's goo stuff is flammable. That is all.

Sanji beats Pica med diff without the environment advantage.

Sanji beats Vergo high diff. Sanji outmatched Vergo in their close range bout. It was until Sanji decided to BLOCK Vergo's kick instead of deflecting & dodging like he was before that his leg got fractured. Even after Sanji got his leg fractured, Vergo still couldn't hit Sanji.

 

[joodaa]

He beats the first two, as for pica and vergo he might not. Against Vergo, as much as I remember from their little skirmish it didn't look like he doing too well. Then against Pica its all about location, If its where Zoro fought him I'm not sure If he'll be to force Pica out in the same way, but on a boat in the open ocean he probably stands a better chance.

 

[Bogard]

Sanji beats Diamante low diff tops with no injuries: Kyros only had so much trouble because of his lack of mobility and still one shotted Diamante at close range.

Oh really? How does Sanji counter death enjambre without getting damaged?

Sanji beats Trebol low diff tops with no injuries: Trebol's goo stuff is flammable. That is all.

It's flamability is dangerous for the surrounding opponents/targets not himself. We've seen him multiple times using his flamable stuffs up close and never damaging him while at the same time damaging the targets. So if anything using diable jambe technique would put Sanji at a disadvantage, not Trebol

Sanji beats Pica med diff without the environment advantage.

How does he bypass Pica's full body haki? And why is Pica restricted from his environment again?

Sanji beats Vergo high diff. Sanji outmatched Vergo in their close range bout. It was until Sanji decided to BLOCK Vergo's kick instead of deflecting & dodging like he was before that his leg got fractured. Even after Sanji got his leg fractured, Vergo still couldn't hit Sanji.

That was against a Vergo who was using Sanji's kicking fighting style without using his own(brawling and bamboo fighting style), let alone his hardening. It's like saying Sanji can beat Luffy in brawling if he manages to outkick him in a kicking fight. Besides, Sanji himself admitted the fight would have gone bad for him if it continued

 

[ToshiZO]

Sanji vs Diamante. Kyros is not on Sanji's league, plain and simple. Regardless he got OHKO'd by Kyros, he has crap endurance. Sanji lowest end of low diff.

Sanji vs Trebol. Without intel his ability would be tricky at first against most, but Sanji can light this guy on fire and he explodes. Sanji low diff.

Sanji vs Pica. Depends, if it is in Dressrosa Sanji doesn't have the feats to say he could force Pica out of his golem if he decides to fight in that manner. But Pica can't put Sanji down either. Eventually I think Pica will come out and try putting Sanji down himself, which will lead to his demise. Sanji high diff to mid-high diff to mid diff depending on circumstances.

Sanji vs Vergo. Sanji doesn't have the portrayal or feats as of this moment that put him above Smoker, nothing implies he fairs better than Smoker. Vergo high diff.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Oh really? How does Sanji counter death enjambre without getting damaged?

Speed-blitz Diamante when he takes out the canisters and before Diamanate un-waves them. Blitzes Diamante as the confetti is shot in the air, before Dia releases his power to make them into the iron balls. Or simply blitz Diamante as they are falling. Seeing as Robin and Rebecca had time to stand around, talk about the balls, then Robin had time to sprout arms to guard against the balls with freaking SUNFLOWERS, Sanji can easily blitz Diamante during this period of fall before the balls get close to him. Diamante's Death Enjambre is full of openings that anyone with respectable speed can exploit, and seeing as Kyros, Rebecca, and Robin could deflect/block them, Sanji definitely can too.

It's flamability is dangerous for the surrounding opponents/targets not himself. We've seen him multiple times using his flamable stuffs up close and never damaging him while at the same time damaging the targets. So if anything using diable jambe technique would put Sanji at a disadvantage, not Trebol

Wouldn't this work both ways? Sanji is literally setting himself on fire whenever he used Diable Jambe and Hell Memories, so I doubt those same flames being pushed back on him is gonna hurt to that degree where it makes any kind of difference. Sanji blitzes Trebol with his hardest kicks, the flames that are already on Sanji without hurting him expands outwards, and Trebol is hit with the force of Sanji's legs while Sanji gets maybe some minor burns. That doesn't justify mid-diff.

That was against a Vergo who was using Sanji's kicking fighting style without using his own(brawling and bamboo fighting style), let alone his hardening. It's like saying Sanji can beat Luffy in brawling if he manages to outkick him in a kicking fight. Besides, Sanji himself admitted the fight would have gone bad for him if it continued

Sanji was also, at this point, in a body that was so weakened, a blow from Nami caused him real pain. As in, not pain that's 100% comical and gone in the next page, but actual, acknowledged "This is real pain" pain. It's obvious that Sanji's body wasn't at its best when he clashed with Vergo, so that's an inconclusive fight.

As for Sanji's comment, Sanji never said it would have gone bad for him. He said "If we went on..." and never finished his train of thought, which could mean any number of things, especially when you consider that the poisonous gas was closing in on them. It can easily mean "If we went on, the gas would have gotten to us..." or "If we went on, I'd be here forever before I beat him."

 

[Bogard]

Sanji vs Diamante. Kyros is not on Sanji's league, plain and simple. Regardless he got OHKO'd by Kyros, he has crap endurance. Sanji lowest end of low diff.

Not saying he is, but where is the proof Kyros isn't on Sanji's league? We have no way to rate him since he only fought Diamante

Sanji vs Trebol. Without intel his ability would be tricky at first against most, but Sanji can light this guy on fire and he explodes. Sanji lowest diff.

As stated above, he isn't affectable by his flamable substances. Only the opponents are, so it'd put Sanji in dangerous position if anything

Sanji vs Pica. Depends, if it is in Dressrosa Sanji doesn't have the feats to say he could force Pica out of his golem if he decides to fight in that manner. But Pica can't put Sanji down either. Eventually I think Pica will come out and try putting Sanji down himself, which will lead to his demise. Sanji high diff to mid-high diff to mid diff depending on circumstances.

Pica can merge with the ground in an instant, so in a location like dressrosa with ground everywhere, Sanji needs to beat him in one attack but he doesn't possess the level of attacks(by feats) allowing him to do so to someone who could take stronger attacks(1080PC) without harderning. And how can't Pica put him down? He got the strongest part of his body broken by base Vergo's kick, so without hardening feats, he has no ways to counter Pica's hardening attacks, and that's discounting the golem's powerful punch. He can dodge sure due to how slow the golem's attacks are, but it would sap his stamina, so i think he'd end up at a disadvantage sooner or later.

Sanji vs Vergo. Sanji doesn't have the portrayal or feats as of this moment that put him above Smoker, nothing implies he fairs better than Smoker. Vergo high diff.

Agreed here

 

[ToshiZO]

Not saying he is, but where is the proof Kyros isn't on Sanji's league? We have no way to rate him since he only fought Diamante

You don't struggle with Diamante, thats bad portrayal. Anyways its irrelevant since Kyros one shotted Diamante it tells me his endurance is shit. So Sanji beats him low diff.

As stated above, he isn't affectable by his flamable substances. Only the opponents are, so it'd put Sanji in dangerous position if anything

Yea but once his goo stuff is gone, his entire arsenal is gone, his body is exposed, hence low diff. Trebol explodes, Sanji takes maybe slight damage and then Trebol gets crapped on by Sanji.

Pica can merge with the ground in an instant, so in a location like dressrosa with ground everywhere, Sanji needs to beat him in one attack but he doesn't possess the level of attacks(by feats) allowing him to do so to someone who could take stronger attacks(1080PC) without harderning. And how can't Pica put him down? He got the strongest part of his body broken by base Vergo's kick, so without hardening feats, he has no ways to counter Pica's hardening attacks, and that's discounting the golem's powerful punch. He can dodge sure due to how slow the golem's attacks are, but it would sap his stamina, so i think he'd end up at a disadvantage sooner or later.

I said Pica can't take Sanji down in golem form. So I think he would resort to getting out, its not like he will have anything to fear against Sanji, eventually he would get tired and try facing him without the golem.

I think Sanji wouldn't waste this opportunity, he would probably use Hells memories his strongest attack and possibly a combo of other attacks, not letting Pica get away.

Nothing implies Pica's haki is impenetrable. Bellamy could hurt Luffy through his haki, Luffy could hurt Doffy through his, Law as well. A sufficient enough attack overcomes a simple Haki defense. Hell's memories would definitely hurt Pica badly if not KO him.

I don't know to what extent Pica tanked 1080PC. He was in golem form so I can't tell how much of the damage he took head on.

If Pica manages to escape Sanji's onslaught he would just run away back to his golem, so in that scenario I'm not sure how this would end up. It would be a looong battle if this were the case.

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

Beats all of them but Pica would take a bit longer given the location and his size.

 

[A v i]

I genuinely don't think he'd lose against any of them but Sanji indirectly implied he'd have lost to Vergo. So, I'll give him the benefit of doubt. Of course, I am talking about how an all out Sanji would fare against them. Sanji as he is now doesn't have feats to take down both Pica as well as Vergo.

 

[scorezor]

sanji loose vs vergo , sanji's haki < vergos haki.

 

[Bogard]

You don't struggle with Diamante, thats bad portrayal. Anyways its irrelevant since Kyros one shotted Diamante it tells me his endurance is shit. So Sanji beats him low diff.

Yea but once his goo stuff is gone, his entire arsenal is gone, his body is exposed, hence low diff. Trebol explodes, Sanji takes maybe slight damage and then Trebol gets crapped on by Sanji.

I said Pica can't take Sanji down in golem form. So I think he would resort to getting out, its not like he will have anything to fear against Sanji, eventually he would get tired and try facing him without the golem.

I think Sanji wouldn't waste this opportunity, he would probably use Hells memories his strongest attack and possibly a combo of other attacks, not letting Pica get away.

Nothing implies Pica's haki is impenetrable. Bellamy could hurt Luffy through his haki, Luffy could hurt Doffy through his, Law as well. A sufficient enough attack overcomes a simple Haki defense. Hell's memories would definitely hurt Pica badly if not KO him.

I don't know to what extent Pica tanked 1080PC. He was in golem form so I can't tell how much of the damage he took head on.

If Pica manages to escape Sanji's onslaught he would just run away back to his golem, so in that scenario I'm not sure how this would end up. It would be a looong battle if this were the case.

Fair enough. I agree with most of the points.. But while it's true we don't know the amount he took, i still somehow doubt in him getting significantly damaged by Hell Memories with his hardening defense on top. The examples you gave aren't good enough because Bellamy was using hardening himself, same goes for Luffy against Doflamingo. Hardening doesn't seem to be as easy to overcome as the weaker version(invisible), or at least when it comes to blunt damage

I genuinely don't think he'd lose against any of them but Sanji indirectly implied he'd have lost to Vergo. So, I'll give him the benefit of doubt. Of course, I am talking about how an all out Sanji would fare against them. Sanji as he is now doesn't have feats to take down both Pica as well as Vergo.

Most likely in the current arc, Sanji will show feats allowing him to defeat Vergo. He needs it anyway considering he'd most likely have to fight a yonko commander in Wano

 

[A v i]

Most likely in the current arc, Sanji will show feats allowing him to defeat Vergo. He needs it anyway considering he'd most likely have to fight a yonko commander in Wano

Yeah, I am pretty sure he'd lok superior to executive when he finally goes all out. Lets hope he'll shine at Whole cake island. But the chances of him getting a calamity match up are really slim at this point in manga. He'll most likely end up fighting in a team. Same thing happened even at FMI. At thins. From where I stand, the only one that'll most likely have a complete one on one fight at Wano would be Zoro. Granted the Shogun is actually the strongest swordsman in Wano.

 

[Bogard]

Yeah, I am pretty sure he'd lok superior to executive when he finally goes all out. Lets hope he'll shine at Whole cake island. But the chances of him getting a calamity match up are really slim at this point in manga. He'll most likely end up fighting in a team. Same thing happened even at FMI. At thins. From where I stand, the only one that'll most likely have a complete one on one fight at Wano would be Zoro. Granted the Shogun is actually the strongest swordsman in Wano.

Never said he'd fight a calamity. I don't think Kaido only has 3commanders. It's only that his calamities are his most trusted. They'd probably be reserved for some guys from the worst generation while Sanji will deal with lower commanders(maybe with Jinbei), but he still needs feats to show he can compete at that level

 

[-Akuma-]

1.) No dif
2.) No dif
3.) Med-high dif
4.) High dif

 

[-Akuma-]

So now you're basing things from what people think? There is no concrete basis on where Kyros stand, so your statements are not facts and depends on opinions. Chinjao could push Luffy to mid difficulty. Lao G was kicking him around(albeit weakened). Gladius was portrayed to occupy Bartolomeo and Cavendish(albeit not really working together), same Cavendish portrayed to be a match for Chinjao/Luffy in the coloseum. The top executives were portrayed to be above their level. Kyros defeated one of them

And why not? Do you see how small the royal palace is compared to that?

Chinjao said himself he got way weaker after his Luffy fight.

 

[Bogard]

Chinjao said himself he got way weaker after his Luffy fight.

I mentioned it myself in my post. It's still not that great of an excuse though. Do you think that if someone of his age like Garp, Whitebeard or Rayleigh had ailments, he'd get beaten around by someone like Lao G just because he is weakened?

 

[-Akuma-]

I mentioned it myself in my post. It's still not that great of an excuse though. Do you think that if someone of his age like Garp, Whitebeard or Rayleigh had ailments, he'd get beaten around by someone like Lao G just because he is weakened?

Yes, he was a lot weakened nor is he comparble Garp, Ray or WB so don't use them as an excuse.

 

[BusinessManTeno]

Lmaooooooooooooooo

You guys really think hes taking down pica??? HELL No

Diamante? Yeah ill give it to him.. Sanji is quicker so ya. Sanji wins this

Trebol? If trebol wasnt flammable then trebol would **** him up.. but sadly thats not the case so sanji wins this..

Pica? HELL NO! as of now we not only seen any of his technique be destructive enough but none of his attacks are big enough. This is the same dude that got -neg by doffy. Lol. Due to picas large and slow nature i dont see him landing a hit on sanji MUCH but i can see him doing some hits.. but like the above.. I can see sanji stamina going down.. and sadly his stamina=speed and his speed is his biggest strength since it compliments his fighting style.. Pica isnt losing this.. not at all..

Vergo? LMAOOOOOOOOO cmon now.. Vergo stomps. Vergo whos said to be on top. This is the same dude who needed law to use his ultimate attack to take him down. Vergo is also fast just like sanji. I dont see sanji winning this at all. I can see them having a leg battle but at the end of the day vergo uses weapons and his hands. The moment sanji block with his leg, vergo finna knock him tf out..

Sanji Vs,

Diamante: is a swordsman with good agility and variety of utility of his DF. I give it to Sanji mid diff. at best.

Trebol: is IMO the most useless of the executives and is not much of a use against agile and Haki users.

Pica: is a good bet against close combat experts, I wonder if Sanji can bring him out of the rocks at all... Zoro destroyed the upper part of the giant rock mid-air leaving Pica with no chance but to appear. P.S. Zoro needed a little help doing so.
I'd like to hear people's opinion on it before deciding the victor.

Vergo: is physically stronger than Sanji, even though his main combat style is brawling and using Bamboo-stick, he was good enough to keep up with Sanji's base kicking attacks, that'd have been good enough but the thing is, Sanji fractured his bone against Vergo's defense. I'm giving it to Vergo high diff. at best.

LMAO
What? Are you kidding me dude? @Bold

Diamante was the weakest..and most useless it was pathetic

Trebol not useful against agile and haki user??? Luffy was both? Not only can he catch you with his df power, but you not getting out of it once caught.. Haki works none on him (Well it can but how he uses his df you need knowledge) Hes not a logia, so you have to strike a specific part of his body.. like luffy, most ppl will mistake him for a logia and be caught off guard. it was only due to law luffy saw trebols body and learned about it.. if not, then luffy wouldve had to hit gear 3 to do damage to him.. trebol is a little weaker then vergo to me but in usefullness i think in order it goes Pica >>> Vergo >>> Trebol >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Diamante