[Discussion] Sanji vs Smoker

[Skylar Knight]

Sanji and Smoker are pretty even, but at the end of the day, I think Smoker takes it.

 

[LitzSabr]

Pple have been on Rinne's case but he has a point actually Ace vs Smoker had no victor and it wasnt coz Ace wasnt serius about the fight. their abilities withought haki wld give them a loop battle thats only destructive to the enviroment and a winner wld b there in the event one of them makes a mistakes or one tires out and can't counter attacks from the other. this manga fact that states fire> smoke is in the measure of destructive capacity pple and Df's are not the stereotypical manga powers they have different rule in some cases. Ace was stronger than Smoker but cldnt effectively attack/strike/hit/hurt Smoker and Smoker cldn't choke(smoke is usually carbondioxide and it snuffs fire out coz of lack of oxygen) Ace's fire for him to effectively attack so it was to some extent a tie(their offences were rendered 99% redudant)- Its actually manga fact that when yo attacks are useless u are loosing, then add some simple math when both opponents are loosing then its a tie.

Ace wasn't serious about the fight. You can clearly see that. He didn't harm smoker it doesn't mean that he couldn't.
Second Ace had to have Haki. No way he could've survived New World and fight alot of powerful who know how many logia there without it. So he had it as he did pass through New World as a fighter.
Manga states that Ace had an advantage against Smoker, even if it's destructive the gap between Ace's scale and Smoker's fire is not comparable. Ace's fire can expand on a scale of half an island. Water is superior is Fire, but if you will throw a bucket of water on a burning house, it will do Nothing. Smoker's smoke can do nothing o Ace's fire.

 

[LitzSabr]

Pple have been on Rinne's case but he has a point actually Ace vs Smoker had no victor and it wasnt coz Ace wasnt serius about the fight. their abilities withought haki wld give them a loop battle thats only destructive to the enviroment and a winner wld b there in the event one of them makes a mistakes or one tires out and can't counter attacks from the other. this manga fact that states fire> smoke is in the measure of destructive capacity pple and Df's are not the stereotypical manga powers they have different rule in some cases. Ace was stronger than Smoker but cldnt effectively attack/strike/hit/hurt Smoker and Smoker cldn't choke(smoke is usually carbondioxide and it snuffs fire out coz of lack of oxygen) Ace's fire for him to effectively attack so it was to some extent a tie(their offences were rendered 99% redudant)- Its actually manga fact that when yo attacks are useless u are loosing, then add some simple math when both opponents are loosing then its a tie.

Ace wasn't serious about the fight. You can clearly see that. He didn't harm smoker it doesn't mean that he couldn't. Later the marines are shown saying this

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Whats there on the first two panels?
It's clear Ace was only there to let Luffy escape an no one could stop him, not even Smoker.

Second Ace had to have Haki. No way he could've survived New World and fight alot of powerful who know how many logia there without it. So he had it as he did pass through New World as a fighter.

Manga states that Ace had an advantage against Smoker, even if it's destructive the gap between Ace's scale and Smoker's fire is not comparable. Ace's fire can expand on a scale of half an island! Water is superior is Fire, got nothing on Ace.