[Spoilers] sanji somehow got even more pathetic

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

I mean it's not Zoro's fault he's too strong for non Yonkou underlings. Pica for instance, Sanji can't even beat him as far as we know.

That narrative only worked pre Dressrosa, once Dressrosa hit and he clashed with an Admiral and sodomized Pica it was all over for that excuse.

Any non Yonkou level crew, Zoro will be too strong for the #2, he need only concern himself with the captain but then who would Luffy fight? Poor #2's are left getting fodderized by someone who should be fighting their captain. He's an anomaly.

Exactly why do u say sanji can't beat him as far as we know ?? I don't understand this if anything sanji would have easier time because he's faster can fly and obervtion Haki specialist so can pinpoint pica location easier and travel to him

Sanji has been able to destroy buildings and stone since before the time skip

Was it ever stated that sanji can't beat pica because as far as we know his move set should be able to

As for the whole none Yonko underling thing
Doffy kuma ivankov sabo Dukes law Kidd (portrayal) and more are not underlings yet can beat zoro

 

[ToshiZO]

Ignoring the Sanji part, he doesn't have the destructive feats to beat golemn pica. Leave it at that.

As for the whole none Yonko underling thing
Doffy kuma ivankov sabo Dukes law Kidd (portrayal) and more are not underlings yet can beat zoro

I said non Yonkou (level) underlings

Do any of those guys look like underlings, or a part of a pirate crew? The ones that are pirates, are not underlings, the ones that are underlings are revolutionaries (who might have a Yonkou level organization anyway, so null point either way). So you only proved my point here I guess.

The only one I can think of is Killer, maybe a couple more if I think harder but that's about it.

 

[Punk Hazard]

I mean it's not Zoro's fault he's too strong for non Yonkou underlings. Pica for instance, Sanji can't even beat him as far as we know.

That narrative only worked pre Dressrosa, once Dressrosa hit and he clashed with an Admiral and sodomized Pica it was all over for that excuse.

Any non Yonkou level crew, Zoro will be too strong for the #2, he need only concern himself with the captain but then who would Luffy fight? Poor #2's are left getting fodderized by someone who should be fighting their captain. He's an anomaly.

Clashed with an Admiral? Fujitora treated Zoro worse than Zoro treated Pica lmao

 

[ToshiZO]

Clashed with an Admiral? Fujitora treated Zoro worse than Zoro treated Pica lmao

By attacking an unsuspecting Zoro, who immediately broke out of the surprise attack and pushed him meters back with a single hand?

Ok.

 

[Punk Hazard]

By attacking an unsuspecting Zoro, who immediately broke out of the surprise attack and pushed him meters back with a single hand?

Ok.

One attack from Fujitora, that we have seen to be weaker and more casual than his other attacks, left Zoro on one knee with a heavy breath. The attack wasn't unsuspecting either. Fujitora surprised Zoro when he blocked the sword strike. By the time Fujitora used the gravity wave, Zoro had fully processed who was standing in front of him, and what he could do. The element of surprise was gone by the time Fujitora started his attack.

Zoro did not immediately break out either, considering we saw him falling into the hole and struggling against a casual wave of gravity

Pica put up more of a fight against Zoro than Zoro did Fujitora.

 

[ToshiZO]

One attack from Fujitora, that we have seen to be weaker and more casual than his other attacks, left Zoro on one knee with a heavy breath.

Pica put up more of a fight against Zoro than Zoro did Fujitora.

Lol are you in trolling right now? Fujitora and Zoro didn't even fight, each threw 1 attack.

Fujitora threw a surprise gravity attack 50 times stronger than the one that was crushing Law [

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Also let's not forget they clashed later on but this time Fujitora was not allowed a cheap shot.

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All we saw was a clash, not bad I'd say considering that's a Marine Admiral. Infact that was almost too good for the situation he was put in. Almost makes Fujitora look bad, but I guess Zoro is just that strong now.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Lol are you in trolling right now? Fujitora and Zoro didn't even fight, each threw 1 attack.

Fujitora threw a surprise gravity attack 50 times stronger than the one that was crushing Law [

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], Zoro counter attacked and pushed Fujitora a couple meters back with a casual swing [

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]. Then it ended.

Also let's not forget they clashed later on but this time Fujitora was not allowed a cheap shot.

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All we saw was a clash, not bad I'd say considering that's a Marine Admiral. Infact that was almost too good for the situation he was put in. Almost makes Fujitora look bad, but I guess Zoro is just that strong now.

A casual swing? Yeah, because Zoro struggling to move is "casual." Zoro had to put in effort that attack, and the end result was Fujitora standing fine while he was winded on his knee from the effort he had to put in and the strain he had to endure. That gravity wave was smaller than the wave Fujitora used in the gambling hall, and far inferior to Furious Tiger, the gravity that brought down meteors, or the gravity he used to lift all of the debris in Dressrosa. THAT was a casual attack, while Zoro was winded, so the definitely wasn't doing anything casual.

Zoro and Fujitora clashed again, sure, but where's the gravity? The bulk of Fujitora's power comes not from his physical strength, but from his gravity waves. Gear Second and Third, things Doflamingo could shrug off, were pushing Fujitora back and cornering him, so it's no question that Zoro could stand against Fujitora's strength. In fact, that kinda bodes bad for Zoro portrayal wise, since he, a powerhouse, is only matching a guy that that isn't a physical powerhouse and can be pushed back by Gear Second and Third(for scaling, Doflamingo's inferior clone swatted away a Jet Pistol). Fujitora using casual gravity attacks on Zoro had Zoro cornered and in worse condition than Zoro could put Pica in after forever of fighting.

 

[ToshiZO]

A casual swing? Yeah, because Zoro struggling to move is "casual." Zoro had to put in effort that attack,

He was struggling to break through his gravity, the attack was as low tier as it gets, one handed nameless sword slash. Still sent Fuji sliding back.

The rest of your post belongs in the trash. Don't care.

 

[Punk Hazard]

He was struggling to break through his gravity, the attack was as low tier as it gets, one handed nameless sword slash. Still sent Fuji sliding back.

Exactly why it can't be a casual swing. He HAD to put in as much effort as possible in order to move his body against the gravity. The fact that one of Fujitora's lower-classed gravity waves forced him to use that much effort for a low-tier swing just shows how much of an effect it had on Zoro. The effort he had to put into that swing was worlds above "casual."

Can't refute the rest of your post.

Fixed.

 

[ToshiZO]

Exactly why it can't be a casual swing. He HAD to put in as much effort as possible in order to move his body against the gravity. The fact that one of Fujitora's lower-classed gravity waves forced him to use that much effort for a low-tier swing just shows how much of an effect it had on Zoro. The effort he had to put into that swing was worlds above "casual."



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[WhistleBlower]

Well Excuseeeee moii, for acting!

 

[Punk Hazard]

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"Damn, a post that challenges a baseline assumption and demands thinking and evidence? Better cop out with a meme." You smart good.

 

[Tomato God]

In the OPverse, those characters are quite weak.

and if they are weak then doesnt that make everyone in part one non-existance. Like kuro or krieg compared to them?

 

[Punk Hazard]

and if they are weak then doesnt that make everyone in part one non-existance. Like kuro or krieg compared to them?

Yes? Those guys are ****ing nobodies. Why are you talking about them as though they're in the same galaxy as relevant?

 

[Kushina89]

people still cry about this... wtf
he has been using the same, lame gags since chapter 1, and that for all of the sh's

yes, i do think that he does it with sanji more than of the others and even in situations that make him look more pathetic, but thb oda has beenshit writing them for a Long time now
no development, the same dumb actions and making hal of the sh's useless bystander


i do wonder why mr and mrs (botard and toshizo) zoro act like it's only sanji though? must feel triggered since their beloved character is as developed as toilet paper and is being done in the same repetitive way 400 chapters ago

oda is good in world building, but sucks hard in characters...
rest is average

 

[A v i]

Then you understand why low-diffing them isn't impressive. Glad to hear it. Zoro beat them with ease? Good for him, so would 90% of relevant characters from this point on. When tons upon tons of other people can do the same thing you did, it's not impressive. Impressive is something relatively few people can do.

"That grown man beat up a middle schooler really easily, but it's impressive because the middle schooler would beat up a kindergartener!"

That's how this shit sounds.

Thought you'd say something like this. Once again we've got totally different views on what we'd find impressive. One doesn't have to be a country buster to be impressive in my eyes. And I don't find things impressive based on the number of people that could do it. So you may stop forcing your opinions on others. There aren't many that could beat the characters that Zoro had beaten, the count is probably less than 100. So the number of people that could do it as easily as Zoro would be even less. There are a few people in Zoro's league that couldn't beat them as easily as he did which makes it impressive for me.

 

[babaGAReeb]

Well Excuseeeee moii, for acting!

it wasnt acting, you dont need to act in your thoughts too

 

[Bogard]

it wasnt acting, you dont need to act in your thoughts too

To be fair, the chapter title could have easily be meant either for Pudding, for Sanji or for both and Pudding herself had questionable thoughts about Lola a while back, yet now is portrayed to be complete evil. But sadly it's not as simple as that when it comes down to Sanji whose nosebleeds ruin the entire act

 

[ToshiZO]

i do wonder why mr and mrs (botard and toshizo) zoro act like it's only sanji though? must feel triggered since their beloved character is as developed as toilet paper and is being done in the same repetitive way 400 chapters ago

Show me a panel of Zoro or any other Strawhat being a cuck, and you have a point. Otherwise you're just talking for the sake of noise. Nothing you said was relevant to this thread.

 

[Bogard]

people still cry about this... wtf
he has been using the same, lame gags since chapter 1, and that for all of the sh's

yes, i do think that he does it with sanji more than of the others and even in situations that make him look more pathetic, but thb oda has beenshit writing them for a Long time now
no development, the same dumb actions and making hal of the sh's useless bystander


i do wonder why mr and mrs (botard and toshizo) zoro act like it's only sanji though? must feel triggered since their beloved character is as developed as toilet paper and is being done in the same repetitive way 400 chapters ago

oda is good in world building, but sucks hard in characters...
rest is average

Lmao this bitch seems obsessed by me(and Zoro for the matter). Sorry but i'm already taken, so i'd appreciate if you just get off my back and finally post something relevant :hmm: Though maybe if you're kind enough, Zoro will accept you after he rejected you for the thousand times :ilu: