[Spoilers] sanji somehow got even more pathetic

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And yet Sanji's character is just for sure, definitely ruined for something that can be said about every Strawhat.
Y'all clowns some geniuses.
Usopp's character was also ruined.

I talked about Luffy's character being ruined with the "charging in without thinking in BM's territory even after what happened pre-timeskip" bit as well.

Zoro's character has been the same, like the rest of the other SH's, so I can't talk about them.
 

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Usopp's character was also ruined.

I talked about Luffy's character being ruined with the "charging in without thinking in BM's territory even after what happened pre-timeskip" bit as well.

Zoro's character has been the same, like the rest of the other SH's, so I can't talk about them.
Zoro is now always the cold loner who has easy fights. He's done nothing else or had anything else to his character since the timeskip started.
 

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They're easy. Monet, Pica, and Fishman Fodder? Only Pica out of any even came close to cracking serious, and he fell short.
Maybe I am just really weak but I dont think that I could beat a woman who is the embodiment of snow a giant stone golem or fish monsters in a fight. Definantly dont think I could win.
 

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Let me break it down to you like this. The guy only cares about one thing.
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In the words of the great space captain jay
"Live by the boner, die by the boner."
 

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The weak term is relative. Sanji himself can be deemed as fodder when compared to a certain range of characters. Either way more to the topic in itself, with the amount of apologists on this matter, discussions are always unbearable over here. Sanji is supposed to be faking nosebleeds now apparently
 

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Are the fights easy or is Zoro too strong
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Doesn't matter if he's a marine admiral, if Zoro has an easier time against him. The said character becomes weak by default, that's how logic works.

Even Oda agrees with this, he always chooses weak characters to confront Zoro. E.g., When Zoro tried to attach Mingo, Oda used a much weaker character to interfere with Zoro instead of having him fight the Shichibukai. Because he knew Mingo would be way too much for him.



 
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Doesn't matter if he's a marine admiral, if Zoro has an easier time against him. The said character becomes weak by default, that's how logic works.
So you think Monet and Fishman Pirates no-names are high up in the power scaling? I know Zoro probably tastes great to you, but call a fish a fish. No one putting Monet in their top 50 lists.
 

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So you think Monet and Fishman Pirates no-names are high up in the power scaling? I know Zoro probably tastes great to you, but call a fish a fish. No one putting Monet in their top 50 lists.
This has nothing to do with the point I was trying to make. I don't ever remember calling them top fighters of the verse. One may must be a part of top 50 for you to call him/her strong. But I don't share the same opinion. So stop putting words in my mouth for the sake creating false impressions of me somehow being illogical to make Zoro look stronger.

I understand perfectly well how weak these characters are compared to the best of the world, I also understand how big the difference is B/W Zoro and his opponents. I too don't consider them to be particularly strong for new world standards, but it doesn't make Zoro look any less impressive as far as I am concerned. Because for me, it's not the fact that he beat them that makes him look impressive, it's the ease at which he beat people as strong as them.You may not find it impressive and I don't really care about what you think.

I am not here to try and prove that Zoro's opponents are top Yonko commander level. If that's what you think I am doing here. You're absolutely wrong. Please, Try not to blame me over things that don't concern me.

 

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It's poor writing on Oda's part.

Not going to lie, the nosebleed "gag" (not sure if you can even call it a gag at this point) just felt pointless in this week's chapter. Especially in the situation he's in. Oda shouldn't even of placed it in. Nosebleed gags feel lazy too. It's so overused but oh well.....that's just my opinion.

There are great perverted gags like Sanji in Nami's body, which was funny. XD
[video=youtube;4pAIuYOi_6A]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pAIuYOi_6A[/video]
 

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This has nothing to do with the point I was trying to make. I don't ever remember calling them top fighters of the verse. One may must be a part of top 50 for you to call him/her strong. But I don't share the same opinion. So stop putting words in my mouth for the sake creating false impressions of me somehow being illogical to make Zoro look stronger.

I understand perfectly well how weak these characters are compared to the best of the world
Then you understand why low-diffing them isn't impressive. Glad to hear it. Zoro beat them with ease? Good for him, so would 90% of relevant characters from this point on. When tons upon tons of other people can do the same thing you did, it's not impressive. Impressive is something relatively few people can do.

"That grown man beat up a middle schooler really easily, but it's impressive because the middle schooler would beat up a kindergartener!"

That's how this shit sounds.
 
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I mean it's not Zoro's fault he's too strong for non Yonkou underlings. Pica for instance, Sanji can't even beat him as far as we know.

That narrative only worked pre Dressrosa, once Dressrosa hit and he clashed with an Admiral and sodomized Pica it was all over for that excuse.

Any non Yonkou level crew, Zoro will be too strong for the #2, he need only concern himself with the captain but then who would Luffy fight? Poor #2's are left getting fodderized by someone who should be fighting their captain. He's an anomaly.
 
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