[Discussion] Sanji › Vergo

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Smoker is supposed to be Luffy's rival. So what!? If we are going to ignore what we see just because of that then the one ignoring would be the one illogical. Having the same strength isn't a condition in the rivalry of Smoker and Luffy. Where was their rivalry before timeskip? Smoker still was Luffy's marine rival, but he was way above Luffy strength wise. And now he is below Luffy. See where I am going. Being Luffy's rival doesn't give us an exact measurment of Smoker's own strength for us to say that he has got to be stronger than Sanji,,, because the ratio between Smoker and Luffy has been changing.

First he didn't lost to Vergo. Though he would have in his condition. I didn't say that Vergo cracked his leg because of Sanji's lack of intel or anything, that was for his fight which ended quickly with DD. I have already explained why Sanji got his bone cracked.
[video=youtube;-dWntRLT6Is]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dWntRLT6Is[/video]

0:12 look at Smoker on the floor scared like a little ***** because he thought Vergo was going all out on him when they were fighting. Vergo cracked Sanji's leg whiles he hasn't even in fullbody COA make all the excuses you want but if Sanji fought him going all out he would have lost mid diff.
 

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[video=youtube;-dWntRLT6Is]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dWntRLT6Is[/video]

0:12 look at Smoker on the floor scared like a little ***** because he thought Vergo was going all out on him when they were fighting. Vergo cracked Sanji's leg whiles he hasn't even in fullbody COA make all the excuses you want but if Sanji fought him going all out he would have lost mid diff.
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Smoker wasn't shown like that in the manga.
I didn't make any excuse, what was there I said it. It was shown that Sanji was already beat up. As I said, its common logic that his bones now would get directly pressurized. After that if Vergo cracked his leg, then that doesn't put Vergo above Sanji. Vergo wasn't going all out, but Sanji too wasn't.(+bad condition).
 
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Sanji is one of my Favorite characters but if he continued that fight he would have given out. He is no match for someone who uses a fighting style similar to him and uses Armament haki, As we all saw his bone was at least chipped but it appeared it looked like a minor fractured. It may affect him in current events since Chopper is not aware of this injury.
 

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Sanji is one of my Favorite characters but if he continued that fight he would have given out. He is no match for someone who uses a fighting style similar to him and uses Armament haki, As we all saw his bone was at least chipped but it appeared it looked like a minor fractured. It may affect him in current events since Chopper is not aware of this injury.
There are only 26 posts. Atleast read them before posting. The bone cracking argument is explained.
 

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Gotta love sanji but no, vergo would have finished him mid/high- diff.
Vergo is a tank and possibly the strongest v.admiral we've seen with feats bar garp.
Sanji will get to that level.
 
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Ive'd rewatched the fight to manny times and realised in the long run Sanji would win


Reason's: Vergo was to cocky, he relies alot on his haki and lets his guard down plenty allowing sanji to land hits

2: Sanji had better techinque, sanji easily dodged and blocked vergos attacks using only observation haki, even when he knew nothing of his opponent.

3: if vergo used his full body armament sanji can use diable jambe and hell memories to increase his attack power like he did in ernies lobby, with vergo being a "rusher" sanji can easily dodge his attacks with observation haki and after a long fight defeat Vergo.

While vergo is truly strong Sanji wins MID -HIGH DIFF, law can easily defeat him once he sets room and only had a hard time cause vego used his heart and rushed him befor he could acvtivate "room", and smoker is just weak compered to "New world" characters.

Please disscuss and share your toughts, on why you think vergo would win or if you also belive sanji would win.
Sanji foot broke when he kicked vergo's leg. Vergo is obviously stronger than sanji and the main reason why Law defeated him was because law had help from smoker and vergo greatly underestimated Law
 
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Sanji foot broke when he kicked vergo's leg. Vergo is obviously stronger than sanji and the main reason why Law defeated him was because law had help from smoker and vergo greatly underestimated Law
Vergo was SCARED of law, wich is why he held bis heart, thats the only reason he needed smokers help, and vergo is a weakling when compered to doflamingo who is a scrub compared to an admiral, i still belive sanji can take him, HELL MEMORIES!!!!!
 

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Vergo also blocked Sanji's attacks though? So... The only proper hit he got on him was the surprise kick which kicked things off.
Imo, Vergo would have won with extreme difficulty.
Plus you make it sound like because Law beat him with ease so would Sanji? Are you seriously implying Law and Sanji are on the same level or even worse... Sanji is stronger than Law?
 
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Vergo also blocked Sanji's attacks though? So... The only proper hit he got on him was the surprise kick which kicked things off.
Imo, Vergo would have won with extreme difficulty.
Plus you make it sound like because Law beat him with ease so would Sanji? Are you seriously implying Law and Sanji are on the same level or even worse... Sanji is stronger than Law?
Lol, no but if law can no diff, vergo sanji can atleast mid -high diff him.
 

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Lol, no but if law can no diff, vergo sanji can atleast mid -high diff him.
That makes no sense at all. Your statement implies Sanji is near Law's level, when in fact Law is stronger than Sanji, not to mention the fighting system in One Piece doesn't work like that. Law no diff Vergo yet went mid to high diff on Smoker yet Smoker still lost to vergo. Granted Smoker lost on purpose however Vergo's Haki was still greater than his.

Again it depends on the fighting styles Law used his hax devil fruit to defeat Vergo without it he would have lost since physically Law can't compete with Vergo and neither could Sanji who's bones were breaking in his fight with Vergo before Vergo was using Haki.
 
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