[Theory] Sakura's seal not what may be expected??

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Ok, so today I feel as though i need to address something that has made me question what Sakura's power up may be when she does release it.

First let us clarify for those who do not know what the seal is and how it works.

By storing chakra over an extended period of time into a specific point on their body, usually the forehead; the user creates this seal which manifests in the form of a rhombus-like marking. Once the seal is formed, the user's already impressive chakra control which is necessary to concentrate the chakra over the period of time allows them to perform techniques without any wasted stamina or chakra.

Now this tells us the seal just contains chakra which can be used any way the user desires.

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Tsunade uses her seal to amplify her medical abilities. We have seen her use two techniques she created herself (to our knowledge) to utilize the seal.

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Creation rebirth : The absolute pinnacle of medical ninjutsu, created by the greatest of medical ninja, Tsunade, it is the ultimate regeneration technique. By releasing the great volume of chakra stored in her forehead at once, the body's cell division is forcibly stimulated by proteins, reconstructing all organs and all tissues making up the human body

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Byakugou: While very similar in nature to its parent technique which facilitates the regeneration of injuries through accelerated cell division, it however does not require the use of hand seals, meaning Tsunade's wounds begin to heal as soon as they are inflicted.

These two techniques created by Tsunade do however have terrible drawbacks as they shorten her life span. For the simple reason that cells are dividing so rapidly during these techniques and cells can only divide a certain amount of times in their life time.

Tsunade herself knows the drawbacks of her jutsu, and also that her blood-line possibly allows her to be risky with these forbidden techniques. She knew Sakura was in preparation to attain the seal as she is the one who passed it down to her.

However Tsunade is the only one confirmed by her to have mastered the byakugou technique.
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I will only use this lightly as proof because technically at the time Sakura has not awakened the seal yet. I do strongly believe that Tsunade would not teach Sakura such dangerous techniques to use. Which may leave you to wonder what she could possibly have to use now.

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Some may say Sakura could create a way to bypass the effects of the creation rebirth and byakugou techniques. While she could probably lessen them. It it basically impossible to reverse the effects of cells that have already divided their share of times. (for now, you know kishi)

Now to the real point. I believe that there is another technique of the yin seal that is unknown to us that sakura may reveal to us. That technique or techniques belong to none other than!

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Yes, Mito uzumaki. She is the only other (known) wielder of the seal Tsunade and Sakura both poses. Mito had been known to be great with sealing techniques and also to be quite the fighter. She probably used that seal in combat.

However, Mito does not seem to have used it in the way as tsunade because she had shown age. We see her in a flashback of kushina when she was going to become the new jinchuriki as an old woman. She doesn't look older than she should have been in that picture either. We have seen the effects of the jutsu tsunade uses on her in parts. she looks way older than mito.

So I am of the assumption that Sakura may have learned a technique of Mito Uzumaki instead of Tsunade. While us fans would like to see Sakura regenerate like a beast, I just feel as though she may not go to those extremes. Sakura should know better than anyone else the drawbacks of Tsunade's jutsu.

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^^ Yet she made fun of Tsunade in a sense about this, knowing that it would be her fate soon I don't think she would do that.

Plus this would open up a window for us to learn a little bit more about Mito Uzumaki as we didn't see or hear mention of her in the Hashirama flashback.

Maybe our little insight on Mito will happen during Sakura's demonstration??

So please share your thoughts if you bother reading any of this. I would appreciate it ^_^ If you bother to try and come here and harrass me or try i will not give you a second look. Not worth it.
 

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Tsunade will be very proud if she sees Sakura has her seal already..
 

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I'd say its basically like a gigantic chakra dump....Sakura, who normally has average reserves, now has three years of chakra added to her current supply.

The fact she said she didn't have to use it to appear younger like Tsunade does indicate that she apparently can use it to appear younger... but being young she has no reason to do so.

Somewhat similarly, Mito was Kurama's host, and as such did not have to leave the village. Most likely (like Kushina) she left a combat role in order to keep the risks of losing control to absolute minimums. She theoretically could also make herself look younger, but she has no reason to do so as she's no longer a shinobi.



That being said it is impossible to say for sure what it will be used for. Considering she is a medical shinobi... I would say Sakura would logically follow Tsunade's style otherwise it would seem odd in my opinion. Why train in medical ninjutsu and then use a fighting style that doesn't play to one's strengths... and after having to wait 3 years to use whatever moves are now available... it would be a horrible tactical decision to use styles one cannot practice as opposed to playing in a medical field that she's spent 3 years excelling in.


That's just my take on it anyhow... but as you've said there's always a possibility.
 

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I'll give you credit for actually putting down any suggestion of Sakura using Tsunade's regeneration techniques. But your evidence to support her learning Mito Uzumaki's techniques is weak at best. Good effort overall.
 

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This is really interesting. At this time, Mito has not really been expanded upon aside from excelling at sealing techniques. If I'm not mistaken, Sakura's seal name is also slightly different from the one Tsunade possesses. If Sakura does possess Mito's verison of the seal it would essentially give Kishi a blank canvas to paint on with her in terms of jutsu and abilities.
 

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That would be awesome to see Sakura's seal . Hope it happens soon =D!
 

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Maybe she will even the technique though,
Mito probably invent -Creation Rebirth
Tsunade- Strength of 100
Sakura- Ultimate Defense (I bet they will call it that, they love to throw that namme around)
I think a logically way to gain the invincibility would be to in coat her entire body in that durable medical chakra, so it not only heals , but serves as a forcefield like thingy.
 

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Quite the analysis. + Rep and thanked.

Based on the statements you're putting, we know that the Uzumaki and the Senju shared a common trait: Lifeforce. The only thing Uzumaki had in abundance compared to the Senju was their chakra pools, so this said, Mito probably used the Byakugou Seal precisely for what you said: Fuuinjutsu, related to the Kyuubi when she was a Jinchuuriki (spare reserves to hold lifeforce and chakra in the case of Kurama being extracted).

As you said (and it's a good point), Sakura is not a Senju nor an Uzumaki. That given, her new abilities can't be related to cells regeneration since she doesn't have the lifeforce of the mentioned clans, it has to be related to her own area of expertice...

It will be probably an amplified version of her medical jutsus capabilities, or maybe, what I have been expecting for long time... to reveal the true potential of her Yin Seal: Genjutsu.
 

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finally a sakura fan that posseses the power of common sence.. some say they are harder to find than the sasuke equivilant :eek:
Quite the analysis. + Rep and thanked.

Based on the statements you're putting, we know that the Uzumaki and the Senju shared a common trait: Lifeforce. The only thing Uzumaki had in abundance compared to the Senju was their chakra pools, so this said, Mito probably used the Byakugou Seal precisely for what you said: Fuuinjutsu, related to the Kyuubi when she was a Jinchuuriki (spare reserves to hold lifeforce and chakra in the case of Kurama being extracted).

As you said (and it's a good point), Sakura is not a Senju nor an Uzumaki. That given, her new abilities can't be related to cells regeneration since she doesn't have the lifeforce of the mentioned clans, it has to be related to her own area of expertice...

It will be probably an amplified version of her medical jutsus capabilities, or maybe, what I have been expecting for long time... to reveal the true potential of her Yin Seal: Genjutsu.

that would also explain mito's abillity to sense hatred! she won a fight against kurama once using her yin seal!
 
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I fairly believe that somewhere there is a common point with all of them and that it's Katsuyu.

As we've seen in the latest chapters, Katsuyu is connected to the seal. Tsunade has been mentioned as the Slug Princess. Well, who was the Queen in the first place? Yup, you guessed it. Mito.

Now all 3 of them are connected to Katsuyu and as Katsuyu stated, she is linked to the seal. Most probable the reason Sakura managed to kuchyiose Katsuyu was because of the seal. She said something along the lines "You got the Byakugo seal, Tsunade-sama would be very..."

And proved by both the statements, maybe there's something more to the seal, than we already know. Going by some buddhist mythology, Sakura might actually have some bigger healing capabilities than her master.

It's a really tricky thing because Tsunade's seal is called Yin while Sakura's White.
We don't know Mito's one.
But there must be something since the names are different while they look the same.
But I bet that once we get more about the seal via Sakura, the common point will be the Slugs or better said, Slug since Katsuyu is one.
 

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no shinobi currently alive has ever spoken with Mito. It is impossible for Sakura to have learned some of her techniques if even Tsunade doesn't know.
 

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I'd say its basically like a gigantic chakra dump....Sakura, who normally has average reserves, now has three years of chakra added to her current supply.

The fact she said she didn't have to use it to appear younger like Tsunade does indicate that she apparently can use it to appear younger... but being young she has no reason to do so.

Somewhat similarly, Mito was Kurama's host, and as such did not have to leave the village. Most likely (like Kushina) she left a combat role in order to keep the risks of losing control to absolute minimums. She theoretically could also make herself look younger, but she has no reason to do so as she's no longer a shinobi.



That being said it is impossible to say for sure what it will be used for. Considering she is a medical shinobi... I would say Sakura would logically follow Tsunade's style otherwise it would seem odd in my opinion. Why train in medical ninjutsu and then use a fighting style that doesn't play to one's strengths... and after having to wait 3 years to use whatever moves are now available... it would be a horrible tactical decision to use styles one cannot practice as opposed to playing in a medical field that she's spent 3 years excelling in.


That's just my take on it anyhow... but as you've said there's always a possibility.

You have a point and it often makes me question my beliefs, but i think byakugou would take a horrible toll on sakura. Who knows maybe she might surprise us. I also find it odd for her to use the exact same technique, maybe her healing will be a little more advanced?

I'll give you credit for actually putting down any suggestion of Sakura using Tsunade's regeneration techniques. But your evidence to support her learning Mito Uzumaki's techniques is weak at best. Good effort overall.

Well Thanks dude, you are right i have no solid mito evidence because we only know so much about her. But sakura's seal being sllightly different and all we could very well through this get more insight on mito. Thanks for sharing :)

This is really interesting. At this time, Mito has not really been expanded upon aside from excelling at sealing techniques. If I'm not mistaken, Sakura's seal name is also slightly different from the one Tsunade possesses. If Sakura does possess Mito's verison of the seal it would essentially give Kishi a blank canvas to paint on with her in terms of jutsu and abilities.

^ This basically

Maybe she will even the technique though,
Mito probably invent -Creation Rebirth
Tsunade- Strength of 100
Sakura- Ultimate Defense (I bet they will call it that, they love to throw that namme around)
I think a logically way to gain the invincibility would be to in coat her entire body in that durable medical chakra, so it not only heals , but serves as a forcefield like thingy.

I do believe Sakura's seal release could be of the defensive variety if she doesn't pick up byakugou.
 

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no shinobi currently alive has ever spoken with Mito. It is impossible for Sakura to have learned some of her techniques if even Tsunade doesn't know.

Alas... the point is that Tsunade may know, because Mito was her grandmother after all, and Tsunade met Hashirama. Even if Tsunade didn't learn abilities directly from Mito, maybe Mito passed this knowledge to her father, who was in fact half Uzumaki half Senju.
 

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Alas... the point is that Tsunade may know, because Mito was her grandmother after all, and Tsunade met Hashirama. Even if Tsunade didn't learn abilities directly from Mito, maybe Mito passed this knowledge to her father, who was in fact half Uzumaki half Senju.

My point is that assumptions based off assumptions are highly unlikely. A claim based on something that happened is more likely, even a claim based on something that might have happened can occur. But a claim based on something that hasn't happened that could have, based on other thing that may or may not have happened, based off... Odds are phenomenally low.

We're talking about proton decay probability at this point!
 

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Quite the analysis. + Rep and thanked.

Based on the statements you're putting, we know that the Uzumaki and the Senju shared a common trait: Lifeforce. The only thing Uzumaki had in abundance compared to the Senju was their chakra pools, so this said, Mito probably used the Byakugou Seal precisely for what you said: Fuuinjutsu, related to the Kyuubi when she was a Jinchuuriki (spare reserves to hold lifeforce and chakra in the case of Kurama being extracted).

As you said (and it's a good point), Sakura is not a Senju nor an Uzumaki. That given, her new abilities can't be related to cells regeneration since she doesn't have the lifeforce of the mentioned clans, it has to be related to her own area of expertice...

It will be probably an amplified version of her medical jutsus capabilities, or maybe, what I have been expecting for long time... to reveal the true potential of her Yin Seal: Genjutsu.

Dude, this never crossed my mind o.o you know genjutsu is one of the keys to her surpassing Tsunade. Maybe the seal brings along genjutsu resistance for her? Wee've always seen her dispelling rather than casting she could possibly become immune maybe. I would like to see her do some casting though. Nice idea dude.

finally a sakura fan that posseses the power of common sence.. some say they are harder to find than the sasuke equivilant :eek:


that would also explain mito's abillity to sense hatred! she won a fight against kurama once using her yin seal!

Yeah that is true, but didn't mito have control over kurama? I would think that might be it as well correct me if im wrong she might have been said to have this ability previous to kurama.

I fairly believe that somewhere there is a common point with all of them and that it's Katsuyu.

As we've seen in the latest chapters, Katsuyu is connected to the seal. Tsunade has been mentioned as the Slug Princess. Well, who was the Queen in the first place? Yup, you guessed it. Mito.

Now all 3 of them are connected to Katsuyu and as Katsuyu stated, she is linked to the seal. Most probable the reason Sakura managed to kuchyiose Katsuyu was because of the seal. She said something along the lines "You got the Byakugo seal, Tsunade-sama would be very..."

And proved by both the statements, maybe there's something more to the seal, than we already know. Going by some buddhist mythology, Sakura might actually have some bigger healing capabilities than her master.

It's a really tricky thing because Tsunade's seal is called Yin while Sakura's White.
We don't know Mito's one.
But there must be something since the names are different while they look the same.
But I bet that once we get more about the seal via Sakura, the common point will be the Slugs or better said, Slug since Katsuyu is one.



I have had theories about Mito being the slug queen before and have shared in some other peoples threads but noone seems to support of ever thought of it being a sensible idea so to speak.

I've always wondered because mito has the seal as well and she is the princess but why call her princess and now queen? Then i thought Mito.

This for the same reason that she also has the seal and slugs seem to communicaate through it. So i also believed she shared a slug contract and thus tsunade attaining it. Nice to know finally someone else shares the same opinion as me XD

I often let people influence half the things i post because sometimes i feel its a bit out of the box.

no shinobi currently alive has ever spoken with Mito. It is impossible for Sakura to have learned some of her techniques if even Tsunade doesn't know.

Her master Tsunade has, Mito lived very long. Not to mention there are records of said techs most likely.
 

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Her master Tsunade has, Mito lived very long. Not to mention there are records of said techs most likely.

True, I keep thinking she died. But Tsunade's techniques were shown to be related to Hashirama's.

The only similar trait I would say is the forehead gem/seal. But we don't know if Mito's was for decoration or had a purpose. I'm assuming had a purpose.

edit: is Byakugo a Tsunade technique or did the manga specifically say she learned it from Mito? From what I can recall Tsunade said it was her original technique.
 
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True, I keep thinking she died. But Tsunade's techniques were shown to be related to Hashirama's.

The only similar trait I would say is the forehead gem/seal. But we don't know if Mito's was for decoration or had a purpose. I'm assuming had a purpose.

edit: is Byakugo a Tsunade technique or did the manga specifically say she learned it from Mito? From what I can recall Tsunade said it was her original technique.

Yes, i believe i stated tsunade to have created both techs, i think you misunderstand me when i mentioned mito passing down the yin seal to tsunade, just the seal not exactly the techniques. Creation rebirth and byakugou. I also believe she had it for purpose, after all the hastle of getting it why not use it no?
 

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Alas... the point is that Tsunade may know, because Mito was her grandmother after all, and Tsunade met Hashirama. Even if Tsunade didn't learn abilities directly from Mito, maybe Mito passed this knowledge to her father, who was in fact half Uzumaki half Senju.

That is where I want more information on. Who is this half Senju/Uzumaki?? Was it confirmed Tsunade is Hashi's granddaughter through her father?
 
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