Sakura's base reserves are high.

[Narutohokage324]

Nope.

 

[Natsu Shazneel]

They are high as her fans for sure.

 

[shelke]

Shelke,when you try to play a guilt-trip principle, you kind of have to abide by it yourself. Otherwise, it makes you look hypocritical and your arguments full of crap. You don't say, "Your opinion is self-created and isn't based on manga statements," and "Let's stop forcing our definitions upon others," and then proceed to make an opinionated definition on it and claim that "That is one sole certainty in the concept," when there's no manga basis for this either. You kind of shoot yourself in the foot here.

Guilt-trip on NB where all are shameless? What the heck is that? Now that that's out of the way, base chakra is user's chakra and this seal, as it's literally on her body, qualifies for it perfectly.

 

[Merkel]

Oh dear god. Your Sakura hatred is obscenely ridiculous:

- Who cares? He made it with Sage's Senjutsu and a pinch of pixie dust after he died. Kishimoto never explained it.

- No, it was not until Kaguya herself adjusted the gravity could they move. Why? Because her ash bones were moving off course. She lessened it. Kakashi and Obito were already moving when Rin made them cover the distance faster.

- Soon after when?

Dude, get over it. Sakura has large base reserves and that's that.



Her own chakra is stored within the seal. Who the heck cares what type of seal it is? It is her base chakra, because it's her own damn chakra.

You practically know nothing about the gates, apparently because Gates is Gai's own chakra. In fact, the gates are called gates because Gai opens the flood gates of his own chakra points. At least get your facts straight.

Good grief ...

Base chakra is chakra un-enhanced by techniques, and this chakra may be hers, but it isn't something constantly available to her that she can throw around willy nilly, it is a technique, accompanied by drawbacks just like many other techniques. I never stated Guy's eight inner gates didn't increase his flow of chakra, of course I knew that lol. However just because it increases his flow of chakra does not make it his BASE chakra. Base referring to the user's chakra in their most simple form. Would you say that the chakra levels of someone in SM is their base chakra since once the nature energy has entered their body it is part of their own chakra? No. They have to go to some lengths to achieve it because it is a technique just like byakugou. It is meaningless when the chakra comes from the user if a technique is required to release it because that isn't considered 'base' chakra.

 

[Merkel]

Guilt-trip on NB where all are shameless? What the heck is that? Now that that's out of the way, base chakra is user's chakra and this seal, as it's literally on her body, qualifies for it perfectly.

Oh boy, ITS A SEAL ON HER BODY!!! BASE CHAKRA CONFIRMED!!! Was Kurama's entire chakra reserves part of Naruto's base when Kurama was sealed inside of him since it's LITERALLY ON AND INSIDE HIS BODY? Base chakra is the user's chakra in it's most simple form. Anything that doesn't have a constant and infinite effect on the user's chakra is irrelevant. Sheesh.

 

[shelke]

Base chakra is chakra un-enhanced by techniques, and this chakra may be hers, but it isn't something constantly available to her that she can throw around willy nilly, it is a technique, accompanied by drawbacks just like many other techniques. I never stated Guy's eight inner gates didn't increase his flow of chakra, of course I knew that lol. However just because it increases his flow of chakra does not make it his BASE chakra. Base referring to the user's chakra in their most simple form. Would you say that the chakra levels of someone in SM is their base chakra since once the nature energy has entered their body it is part of their own chakra? No. They have to go to some lengths to achieve it because it is a technique just like byakugou. It is meaningless when the chakra comes from the user if a technique is required to release it because that isn't considered 'base' chakra.

Oh boy, ITS A SEAL ON HER BODY!!! BASE CHAKRA CONFIRMED!!! Was Kurama's entire chakra reserves part of Naruto's base when Kurama was sealed inside of him since it's LITERALLY ON AND INSIDE HIS BODY? Base chakra is the user's chakra in it's most simple form. Anything that doesn't have a constant and infinite effect on the user's chakra is irrelevant. Sheesh.

Her own chakra plus her own storage unit, means, it's her base chakra. Your example on Kurama is laughable, when its chakra is its own; it's a separate entity. Irrelevant example.

The rest are your opinions.

 

[Merkel]

Her own chakra plus her own storage unit, means, it's her base chakra. Your example on Kurama is laughable, when its chakra is its own; it's a separate entity. Irrelevant example.

The rest are your opinions.

Oh please, my example was meant to be laughable. Can you really not see that? My god. I only bothered using Kurama as an example because it matched with your reasoning stating:

as it's literally on her body, qualifies for it perfectly.

The eight trigram seal is on the body but it OBVIOUSLY doesn't qualify perfectly, nor is it even remotely related. I was only using it as an example to prove why stating that the chakra and seal being on her body is a meaningless point in proving that her seal is 'base' chakra. Since many levels and kinds of chakra can be achieved while still remaining on/in the body. You're either picking at scraps or just seriously couldn't understand something so basic as that.
You never said whether you think Gai's eight inner gates chakra is his base chakra or not.
You didn't address my SM example.
If you claim that everything else is opinion then you must also admit that your definition of base chakra is opinion as well.
I think that base chakra is chakra wielded by the user in it's most simple form because, to me, that seems the most logical way of looking at it.
Definition of the word base:
1. a fundamental principle or groundwork; foundation; basis
2. the bottom support of anything; that on which a thing stands or rests
It makes sense to assume that base chakra would be chakra at its lowest point. The fundamental principle, foundation, groundwork or basis of Sakura's chakra is not her seal, it is what fills up her seal over a matter of time that is the bottom support of the seal, meaning the seal only existed because it is supported by her base reserves.
So although my reasoning is still not rock solid evidence, it is still an educated opinion, not one I've just pulled out of my butt.

Sidenote: What do you have to say about the inconsistency of the byakugou, in the sense that it takes time to recharge and even a seasoned user of the technique (Tsunade), takes a few days to replenish it? Sakura of course takes even longer and her first time around it took her 3 years. Can such fluctuation in chakra levels still be considered base chakra?

 

[shelke]

Oh please, my example was meant to be laughable. Can you really not see that? My god. I only bothered using Kurama as an example because it matched with your reasoning stating:

The eight trigram seal is on the body but it OBVIOUSLY doesn't qualify perfectly, nor is it even remotely related. I was only using it as an example to prove why stating that the chakra and seal being on her body is a meaningless point in proving that her seal is 'base' chakra. Since many levels and kinds of chakra can be achieved while still remaining on/in the body. You're either picking at scraps or just seriously couldn't understand something so basic as that.
You never said whether you think Gai's eight inner gates chakra is his base chakra or not.
You didn't address my SM example.
If you claim that everything else is opinion then you must also admit that your definition of base chakra is opinion as well.
I think that base chakra is chakra wielded by the user in it's most simple form because, to me, that seems the most logical way of looking at it.
Definition of the word base:
1. a fundamental principle or groundwork; foundation; basis
2. the bottom support of anything; that on which a thing stands or rests
It makes sense to assume that base chakra would be chakra at its lowest point. The fundamental principle, foundation, groundwork or basis of Sakura's chakra is not her seal, it is what fills up her seal over a matter of time that is the bottom support of the seal, meaning the seal only existed because it is supported by her base reserves.
So although my reasoning is still not rock solid evidence, it is still an educated opinion, not one I've just pulled out of my butt.

Sidenote: What do you have to say about the inconsistency of the byakugou, in the sense that it takes time to recharge and even a seasoned user of the technique (Tsunade), takes a few days to replenish it? Sakura of course takes even longer and her first time around it took her 3 years. Can such fluctuation in chakra levels still be considered base chakra?

I really don't care what your opinions on base chakra are, when it's a forum constructed term to begin with. I already explained it to another individual that gates chakra is base chakra, as anyone who knows what gates are would agree.

You think throwing a dictionary term at someone is helping you win the argument? You think I am actually going to concede given that going by these Sakura's seal does qualify as one?

 

[Ansatsuken]

Her own chakra plus her own storage unit, means, it's her base chakra. Your example on Kurama is laughable, when its chakra is its own; it's a separate entity. Irrelevant example. <br>

The rest are your opinions.

I think when people said Base chakra they refered to normal everyday chakra that circulating inside someone body.

Another meaning beside Base chakra is Normal chakra or existing chakra that circulate inside your body.<br>

Chakra from Byakugou would not circulated inside Sakura's body unless she release her yin seal.<br>

Thats mean what she used daily was her normal or base chakra.

like Naruto when he is not using Kurama chakra or Sage Mode. He just using his own chakra. And yes his own chakra is his base chakra without any enhancement from Kurama or Sage Mode.

Guy doesnt have any chakra storage jutsu or chakra giver like Kurama. Thats mean his Gates is using his normal/base chakra.

Chakra reserve here is different from chakra storage reserve. Yes they both are chakra reserve but one chakra reserve is your everyday chakra reserve. And the other one is your storage system reserve that you will use in time of need.

What we're talking now is normal or everyday chakra reserve that your body can produced and its limit. Its separated from Chakra storage system as this chakra is not used daily or not the chakra that circulated your body everyday or routinely or regularly.

Im using you for example of situation.

Inside your body there exist two chakra systems. One is your normal chakra system and the other one is your chakra storage system.

What you used daily is your normal chakra reserve.

Let say you are fighting with someone strong. For the first you used your normal chakra reserve but when your normal chakra reserve near the limit and your enemy still strong, you need to used your support chakra reserve to help you.

Same as Sakura here. I dont think she broke her house using the chakra inside Yin seal with her normal chakra. He only used her normal chakra there.

 

[xxSAGExx]

Stamina: 2.5 Nice try.

The yin seal gives the user chakra even without the healing effect being activated, as seen by Tsunade, who ran out of chakra during the Pain invasion and lost the seal, despite not "activating" it. It allows the user to tap into its chakra as a passive effect.


Ultimately, this discussion is pointless, because whether or not Sakura's reserves are natural or artificial, they're still reserves.

This, also in part 1 Tsunade lost the Yin seal after fighting Orochimaru I think? He strength obviously increased after her Yin seal formed on her forehead which is why we get Shizune praise her chakra control and Edo Hashirama compare it to Tsunade's strength.

 

[shelke]

I think when people said Base chakra they refered to normal everyday chakra that circulating inside someone body.

Another meaning beside Base chakra is Normal chakra or existing chakra that circulate inside your body.<br>

Chakra from Byakugou would not circulated inside Sakura's body unless she release her yin seal.<br>

Thats mean what she used daily was her normal or base chakra.

like Naruto when he is not using Kurama chakra or Sage Mode. He just using his own chakra. And yes his own chakra is his base chakra without any enhancement from Kurama or Sage Mode.

Guy doesnt have any chakra storage jutsu or chakra giver like Kurama. Thats mean his Gates is using his normal/base chakra.

Chakra reserve here is different from chakra storage reserve. Yes they both are chakra reserve but one chakra reserve is your everyday chakra reserve. And the other one is your storage system reserve that you will use in time of need.

What we're talking now is normal or everyday chakra reserve that your body can produced and its limit. Its separated from Chakra storage system as this chakra is not used daily or not the chakra that circulated your body everyday or routinely or regularly.

Im using you for example of situation.

Inside your body there exist two chakra systems. One is your normal chakra system and the other one is your chakra storage system.

What you used daily is your normal chakra reserve.

Let say you are fighting with someone strong. For the first you used your normal chakra reserve but when your normal chakra reserve near the limit and your enemy still strong, you need to used your support chakra reserve to help you.

Same as Sakura here. I dont think she broke her house using the chakra inside Yin seal with her normal chakra. He only used her normal chakra there.

But that is the thing, that chakra can be easily tapped into, just like the gates opening. It's like a reserve chakra, but, that reserve and storage is her own. Then it should be counted as base chakra. The reason I am counting it as such is because it isn't something foreign, a handout, or a Bijuu given chakra; it's her own.

That is why, it's her base chakra. I cannot see why she should not be extended this courtesy. I don't even like Sakura and I still believe this base bashes her for no reason and doesn't give the credit where it is due.

 

[Ansatsuken]

But that is the thing, that chakra can be easily tapped into, just like the gates opening. It's like a reserve chakra, but, that reserve and storage is her own. Then it should be counted as base chakra. The reason I am counting it as such is because it isn't something foreign, a handout, or a Bijuu given chakra; it's her own.

That is why, it's her base chakra. I cannot see why she should not be extended this courtesy. I don't even like Sakura and I still believe this base bashes her for no reason and doesn't give the credit where it is due.

The problem I saw on why people in here couldnt accept Yin seal reserve as Sakura normal reserve is because when Sakura want to used her storage reserve, she will activate her Byakugou(Yin seal) to release that chakra. And when she does that people think its like a power up for Sakura.

Its like how Naruto recieved and used Kurama chakra

People understood thats was her own chakra but its similar like Sakura used power up to enhanced her strength and performance.

Power up usually associated with added energy power, added stamina, added strength, etc that boosting Base power. Exp. Normal Goku->SSJ Goku, Normal Hashirama->SM Hashirama, Normal Aizen->Hogyoku Aizen etc.

Below Sakura activate her Byakugou seal(chapter 632: fight with Juubi's clones)

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Thats mean whenever Sakura with that indian-like mark(diamond shape Seal) on his forehead, people called it Sakura in power up mode.

Everything that added up to your normal power be it chakra, chi, ki, nen etc is consider as power up and when you at this stated, you are living your base form and you are entirely in new form.

Let say Goku when in normal/base form have 9000PL but when in Kaioken mode his PL is 10,000 as example.

Thats mean he used Kaioken mode to enhanced his Ki level same as Sakura using Byakugou to enhanced his chakra level

Above reasons or points is why people in here not consider Byakugou Sakura as Base Sakura.

Im not siding with anyone here but just telling you thats what Majority of NB members here think about Sakura and his chakra.

Just my two cents.

 

[shelke]

The problem I saw on why people in here couldnt accept Yin seal reserve as Sakura normal reserve is because when Sakura want to used her storage reserve, she will activate her Byakugou(Yin seal) to release that chakra. And when she does that people think its like a power up for Sakura.

Its like how Naruto recieved and used Kurama chakra

People understood thats was her own chakra but its similar like Sakura used power up to enhanced her strength and performance.

Power up usually associated with added energy power, added stamina, added strength, etc that boosting Base power. Exp. Normal Goku->SSJ Goku, Normal Hashirama->SM Hashirama, Normal Aizen->Hogyoku Aizen etc.

Below Sakura activate her Byakugou seal(chapter 632: fight with Juubi's clones)

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Thats mean whenever Sakura with that indian-like mark(diamond shape Seal) on his forehead, people called it Sakura in power up mode.

Everything that added up to your normal power be it chakra, chi, ki, nen etc is consider as power up and when you at this stated, you are living your base form and you are entirely in new form.

Let say Goku when in normal/base form have 9000PL but when in Kaioken mode his PL is 10,000 as example.

Thats mean he used Kaioken mode to enhanced his Ki level same as Sakura using Byakugou to enhanced his chakra level

Above reasons or points is why people in here not consider Byakugou Sakura as Base Sakura.

Im not siding with anyone here but just telling you thats what Majority of NB members here think about Sakura and his chakra.

Just my two cents.

I have given my cents many times. I respectfully disagree.

 

[Ansatsuken]

I have given my cents many times. I respectfully disagree.

I just informing you about their thinking

But

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When I saw that scan, I think Byakugou reserve has become her normal chakra reserve system. Its because she activate it most of the time or Byakugou is becoming her natural system now and not a power up anymore.

Thats mean her Byakugou is replacing her normal chakra system and turned it into Byakugou chakra system.

What circulating inside her body is chakra direct from her Byakugou system.

Its just my assumption

 

[shelke]

I just informing you about their thinking

But

When I saw that scan, I think Byakugou reserve has become her normal chakra reserve system. Its because she activate it most of the time or Byakugou is becoming her natural system now and not a power up anymore.

Thats mean her Byakugou is replacing her normal chakra system and turned it into Byakugou chakra system.

What circulating inside her body is chakra direct from her Byakugou system.

Its just my assumption

I know you were. Anyhow, I have only been reading spoilers so can't say much about this.

 

[Ansatsuken]

I know you were. Anyhow, I have only been reading spoilers so can't say much about this.

Why you not reading it yet? The series already released.

 

[shelke]

Why you not reading it yet? The series already released.

Don't really want to as the story hasn't quite picked up yet. I usually don't pick up mangas when they are not at least 80 chapters into the story-line. But since this is a small one, 5th or 6th chapter would be good as a pick up point.