Sakura vs Tsunade

[KidGamer65]

So with this idiotic logic.... 5 year old Tsunade >>> Part 1 Adult Tsunade in terms of strength? Because Sakura's feat sure as hell shits all over anything Tsunade has shown in Part 1.

Except she later went on to dodge things MUCH faster like acid and Chakra arms. This point of yours has been mooted SEVERAL times in several different topics from different users, yet you still continue to use it. Textbook example of idiocy.

His statement is indeed irrelevant if he was using your logic of comparing Sakura to a baby, as it creates many inconsistencies with Tsunade herself. (Her 5 year old self would be physically stronger and have a more potent CES than her Part 1 adult self if this is the case, and don't try to say this isn't true, because War arc Sakura shits on Part 1 Tsunade by feats.)

P.S: I have no reason to be butthurt as Sakura negs your fave.

P.S.S: Your level of tard has reached a level off the scale, please proceed to the nearest insane asylum. Lol

Lol, right. Straight talking out of the ass without using logic.

 

[Tazzilla88]

I'll be the first to say that I am biased in this and as such we're not going to talk about who wins... at least not directly.
Now Tsunade is known to have monstrous levels of strength not just from Chakra Enhanced Strength but from natural strength as well. Which would be why Kabuto was so keen on cutting her muscles. Now some of you may say, it is ass backwards to imply Hashirama was talking about a younger Tsunade. But as far as I'm aware super strength is like a kkg either you have it or you don't. If Tsunade had not always had super strength how did she magically acquire it? Lifting and maneuvering Bunta's sword was not the peak of her physical strength as she managed to do so seemingly effortless. Keeping in mind that bijuu sized summon has himself lost grip of his weapon, this feat alone speaks volumes for Tsunade's base strength.

Nextly, some find it ridiculous that someone who isn't even a genin can possess such abilities. The first thing I would say in this regard is merely thinking about the bell test. Hiruzen was known as a top tier jounin, and unlike Kakashi's first bell test, the intent of Hiruzen's bell test was to actually get the bell. Thus we can presume that the battle between the soon to be sannin and hiruzen would be more like Naruto and Sakura's second bell test. I'm not saying that Tsunade and Orochimaru beat Hiruzen, but there skills were great enough to get bells from a ninja like hiruzen when they were still very young. Certainly younger than the time skip characters.

The next reason it isn't so difficult to believe that Tsunade had super strength as a youngster is because prior to Sakura's training with Tsunade, she was still academy level. The only reason Sakura made it out of the academy was her natural affinity for chakra control and her intelligence. In terms of skills and abilities at no point did she show any spectacular abilities that would be beyond the grasp of an academy student. Thus, Tsunade learning CES as an academy student would be a stretch. Especially considering her natural inclination for strength attacks, the next step for someone with super strength would be increasing that strength. And Tsunade seems to have always had a knack for chakra control as well. As Tsunade would have had no chakra being diverted from anywhere, since she was already young, and had no yin seal all of her large chakra reserves could go directly into her attacks back then.

Now the most obvious thing that is said is that Kishimoto meant for Hashirama to be referring to Tsunade's strength in her prime. But this idea is curious. Firstly that would be implying that Sakura's CES> Tsunade's Natural Strength + Tsunade's CES. Nextly, Kishi had not long before drawn Tsunade in Hashirama's mind as only a little girl. Indicating that Hashirama died before he would have seen Tsunade in her prime. Further, Kishi in no way tried to inform or update Hashirama's knowledge. He could of had it so that Hashirama had seen her manifest her strength in some way. Or even better of all the shinobi on the battlefield several of them had seen an adult Tsunade in action. Sakura, Shizune, Kakashi, Hiruzen, Minato and Chouza for example. Shizune got a nice panel next to Hashirama's text of exclamation and if she so desired she could have harped on how strong sakura was just like everyone else but this was of no interest to her. And Time-skip Sakura is completely terrified of Tsunade's strength despite her showing results similar to Part 1 Tsunade's strength which indicates there was something far more fearful than part 1 Tsunade's showing. That's war arc Tsunade's showings.

Now personally I don't actually know if I believe that it was suppose to be young Tsunade that Sakura was being compared to, but it doesn't create plot holes or logical inconsistencies. So people who absolutely do 'believe it' , aren't necessarily crazy or stupid. They just interpret the manga differently. And unfortunately, Tsunade didn't much in the way of fights in the manga.

Also in straight CQC, Tsunade has shown herself to be more capable feat-wise that Sakura, while drunk off her ass.

 

[Bogard]

Kishimoto made a mistake with Hashirama's statement. Pretty sure he was trying to compare Sakura to adult Tsunade but choosed the wrong character only because the Hashirama hype was going crazy at the time.

If he at least used Hiruzen, it would have been more believable. It's easy to know it was a mistake when you realise even adult Tsunade never managed to display a strength feat even close to the one Sakura displayed with chakra enhanced strength active or not, especially when it's pretty certain baby Tsunade couldn't already use chakra enhanced strength(that requires precise chakra control after years of build up), let alone possessing muscular strength comparable to an adult

So really, it's not difficult to understand it was a mistake unless you're that stupid. Similar to how he forgot to draw Naruto's kids with Byakugan eyes(error he apparently self admitted later) or other stupid and uncountable mistakes he made over the course of the serie