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she didn't make the antidote when saving konkurou's life she made it after. She simply pulled the poison out of his body to save his life.
Sakura vs Sasori - Asspull?
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To Whatever
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Chiyo carries the fight. If people saying Sakura could fight him by herself, then it’s delusional thinking
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Chyo was a big help. But not where everyone is down playing Sakura. Chyo was the biggest help in intel and when Sasori used his hundred puppets.
You guys act like Sakura went into that battle cocky like Sasuke usually does before he catches a beat down. Sakura was intimated by Sasori’s very presence. She was fully aware that he had the better experience. Plus the only people who fought Akatsuki one on one were Naruto, Sasuke, Asuma and Shikamaru.
Shikamaru had Intel and plenty of prep time for his battle with Hidan and he had Kakashi and his own team to help him make it a success.
So why are you bitching about Sakura’s victory being an asspull and not Shikamaru’s :bdpf:
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Let me place my introducing text here again so we don't get lost in your twists and turns saying stuff like I undermined my thread and called it an asspull. Look closely at what i wrote. Especially at the BOLD part.
Sakura could've never developed an antidote without a sample. It requires prep and it isn't useful in battle since she can't develop it on the go. I don't think you understand my claim, which is in fact stupid on my behalf to think that someone with such a "I belong to a minority" mentality would understand.
This is just you nitpicking. My point was about Sakura and somehow you are evolving to lady Chiyo which wasn't shown to be able to extract the poison like Sakura, therefore she couldn't obtain the sample she needed. Chiyo basically compares Sakura to Tsunade, which means a lot.
Think Melanin, think.
-> Sakura needs a sample and prep time to develop an antidote. <-
Obtaining the sample:
You see how she asks for medical supplies to nullify the remaining bits of poison? Sakura can't prep antidotes for poisons in the heat of battle. It requires PREP so this skill is basically useless in the heat of battle. The removal ability is just able to retrieve large portions and not the "minute" ones which clearly can still induce severe damage to the poisoned character - claimed by Sakura herself.
Her having one during the battle in "hypodermic" form was just too convenient, therefore and after discussing a bit with you, an asspull.
"I made three antidotes, here.. take one". Lmao!
Hi guys and girls,
Sakura was able to defeat Sasori because Lady Chiyo had a solid knowledge of Sasori's abilities and his puppetry arts.
Sakura had the antidote due to previously Kankuro being poisoned by Sasori blades. She actually had three antidotes prepared, she took one (Or she would die) and gave one to Lady Chiyo. Basically Sakura had time to prepare and develop a counter for Sasori's poison.
This is where the fuckery starts. Sakura had an antidote in her pocket, ready to be used, that was brought along in "hypodermic" form.
I just love how this skilled is praised when in fact she is only able to prepare an antidote with anticipation and previously knowledge of the type of poison she will be facing.
Sakura fans talk like she was able to create a poison during battle or create an antidote on the go. She is not. So this isn't exactly a feat that should be taken into account for war or battle.
Look at this..my oh my.
Sakura could've never developed an antidote without a sample. It requires prep and it isn't useful in battle since she can't develop it on the go. I don't think you understand my claim, which is in fact stupid on my behalf to think that someone with such a "I belong to a minority" mentality would understand.
Was she able to extract the sample like Sakura? Nop.
This is just you nitpicking. My point was about Sakura and somehow you are evolving to lady Chiyo which wasn't shown to be able to extract the poison like Sakura, therefore she couldn't obtain the sample she needed. Chiyo basically compares Sakura to Tsunade, which means a lot.
Think Melanin, think.
F*ck, you really can't understand a thing when you are all riled up. Being riled up like this clouds your comprehension and you are a smart person, no doubt. Chill Melanin.
-> Sakura needs a sample and prep time to develop an antidote. <-
Obtaining the sample:
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You see how she asks for medical supplies to nullify the remaining bits of poison? Sakura can't prep antidotes for poisons in the heat of battle. It requires PREP so this skill is basically useless in the heat of battle. The removal ability is just able to retrieve large portions and not the "minute" ones which clearly can still induce severe damage to the poisoned character - claimed by Sakura herself.
Her having one during the battle in "hypodermic" form was just too convenient, therefore and after discussing a bit with you, an asspull.
"I made three antidotes, here.. take one". Lmao!
No one is bitching and i've never read Shikamaru's fans (if he has any) pulling that as an incredible and defining character feat.
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Umari Senju
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This entire thread is you whining about what little saving grace the Pink Haired One has. It’s nothing new. Credit where credit is due. For her first major fight she did well for being an average Chunin with little combat experience help or no. No one is downplaying Chyo’s contribution. Rather this is another low key shade throwing thread at the Pink Haired One’s expense.
You aren’t fooling anyone dude
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Azarath Metrion Zinthos
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I'm with Sakura though. The ones down playing her feats for whatever reason aren't making sense most of the times anyways, so you gotta just watch them dig themselves into the ground.
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Probably because her opponent literally let himself be killed.
Shikamaru hit Hidan with that Batman prep-time.
Sakura was in tutorial mode for arguably the most important part of the fight. The beginning. Had Chiyo not allowed her to learn Sasori, she would have been a liability. Even then she was being desperate and blowing herself up and letting her self get impaled.
She deserved more fights, but that was Chiyo vs Sasori with Sakura as backup as always.
If Sakura isn't trying to sneak attack people or using herself as bait, then she's pretty much irrelevant when it comes to fights.
Her biggest strengths are learning her opponent and healing. She's never been suited for combat.
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This is the problem. There is no shade being thrown here. My post can't be clearer than what it is. Read what i wrote again if its needed.This entire thread is you whining about what little saving grace the Pink Haired One has. It’s nothing new. Credit where credit is due. For her first major fight she did well for being an average Chunin with little combat experience help or no. No one is downplaying Chyo’s contribution. Rather this is another low key shade throwing thread at the Pink Haired One’s expense.
You aren’t fooling anyone dude
Sample + Preparation time = Antidote
Antidote = Not possible without sample + preparation time therefore not able to be prepared in the heat of battle.
The Sakura rub from Kishimoto is also clear and yet blind fans of the "pink haired one" say she was mistreated.
Downplaying? No one is downplaying. I am just saying things as they are according to my point of view. Ofc there will always be bias, it is what it is.
Instead of baiting, how about you comment the fact that her "feat" is not useful in battle since she can't prepare an antidote on the go?
"Bingo!"
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Azarath Metrion Zinthos
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You're not even on topic. You all go on though, watching you twaddle is kind of fun to watch.
Your logic dictates that the abyss trick Konan pulled on Obito with massive prep was nothing on her talent as a shinobi because it took her massive prep time, right? I don't know what your problem is to be honest, that the fight was ass pull or that the antidote feat is overrated, you aren't picking your complaints properly or sticking with either of them. This whole thread is just all over the place. Tangents on tangents, literally. At least that's how I can sum it.
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Says someone else is riled up when he first and foremost is more than riled up and is berating everyone for giving credit where it's due. Sounds like self-inflicted pain if you ask me.
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You have no claim!
You in fact have no solid argument or thread.
As it’s been pointed out your compbistion of a BS argument is based on you whining and down playing Sakura’s shrewd role in defeating Sasori but your now trying to recreate manga facts based on your misconstrued “whining” perception of one of Sakura’s better moments being unrealistic. #1 yes to counter toxin you need a sample of (common sense). #2 Chiyo had a sample of poison in front of her just as Sakura did, the difference is Sakura was smart enough to to know how to analyze it with only 3 years of experience compared to Chiyo’s lifetime experience. #3 Just becuase something needs to be or has been prepped before it use in battle doesn’t mean it’s not useful in battle!!!
TF!! XD
The entire enemy of the shinobi alliance (Zetsu’s) were prepped! Naruto’s use of he his shadow clones against pain to conserve as senjutsu was prepped! Konan’s paper ocean was prepped! Madara Rinnegan was prepped! #4 Using your logic none of those things are worthy of discussion under the pretense of battle or does your moot logic apply to Sakura only? I know that answer so need to answer that question.
Bingo! :hooray:
Chyio, bless her heart and 70 years of medical experience, didn’t have the medical skill or knowledge to obtain or extract sasori’s Poison! It’s like not being to walk through a door even if it’s unlocked and keyless or a experienced heart heart surgeon not know how to open up a chest cavity. No excuses! Chiyo not removing the poison isn’t something you can use against Sakura, want another reason? Let’s jump back to the manga...
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The manga stated word for word that Chiyo (the witch) could not make an antidote period! So keep you BS argument of “Chiyo could’ve or would’ve done this if she had that” nonsense. Not here for it!
Hey
The hypocrisy...
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That was the first sentence out of your mouth so wtf are you yapping about. Your doirwctlt using Chiyo as the basis of your thread or using her to undermine Sakura.
For the hundredth time! Chiyo not being able to extract the poison means that she couldn’t counter it! You sound moronic fam and again, the manga stated word for word that Chiyo did not possess the knowledge to counter Sasori’s poison! Chiyo xouosnt even tell what type of poison it was. She gave zero analysis of it nor could she comprehend what it was doing.
Post the scan of the manga implicating that chiyo could’ve countered the poison of she had a sample. Keep the assumption or the shoulda coulda woulda troll argument.
Sakura can't prep antidotes for poisons in the heat of battle.
So you even know what prep means? It means that your were prepared before hand and not during, what type of oxymoron bs is that? Also? Prep is useless in the heat battle?
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I dare you to say those things were useless in the heat of battle, you’ll be the biggest troll on the net!
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Wait lol did this dude just imply chiyo had no means of removing poison from a person becuase didn’t have a certain jutsu? If that’s the case, how did she counter poisons and make them work in her prime of she didn’t have Sakuras jutsu then?
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I give her credit for creating the antidote but if Chiyo Baa wasn't there the antidote wouldn't have help her because Sasori had her beat through long range attacks an stamina.. She would've lost without Baa Chiyo..
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Sakura would have died without Chiyo, and Chiyo would have died without Sakura... simple. If your going to make a claim like the bold, don't forget the inverse of the situation. They were dependent on each other, not just one way around. So if Sakura received an asspull then so did Chiyo.Hi guys and girls,
Sakura was able to defeat Sasori because Lady Chiyo had a solid knowledge of Sasori's abilities and his puppetry arts.
Sakura had the antidote due to previously Kankuro being poisoned by Sasori blades. She actually had three antidotes prepared, she took one (Or she would die) and gave one to Lady Chiyo. Basically Sakura had time to prepare and develop a counter for Sasori's poison.
This is where the fuckery starts. Sakura had an antidote in her pocket, ready to be used, that was brought along in "hypodermic" form.
I just love how this skilled is praised when in fact she is only able to prepare an antidote with anticipation and previously knowledge of the type of poison she will be facing.
Sakura fans talk like she was able to create a poison during battle or create an antidote on the go. She is not. So this isn't exactly a feat that should be taken into account for war or battle.
and the skill is praised because Chiyo with decades of more related experience was not able to do what Sakura did in less then some days. Never seen anyone praise this feat because of it's combat efficiency. The praise highlights her intelligence and expertise with creating antidotes.
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Just stop dude. Chyo needed Sakura just as much as Sakura needed her.. There were several instances where Sakura saved Chyo just as there are several instances where Chyo saved Sakura.
Hate Sakura all you want. It’s the norm for people to do. But the simple fact is it was a mutual team up. Both would have died a number of times without the other.
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Untrue, without Sakura, Chiyo lasts longer.
Sakura needed those moments of Chiyo controlling her to adjust to his moves.
Sakura dies in the first 10 mins
Chiyo dies later
They were both going to die regardless, but kishimoto made Sasori develop a soul.
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Cut the crap lmao, now I know for a fact you didn’t read this part of the manga.
Chiyo wouldn’t have done ANY better alone. She didn’t even have the firepower to get through Hiruko, which Sakura provided. Mind you this was at the very beginning of the fight :lol
They mutually needed each other, which is what is shown to us as they almost sequencially take turns saving each other. Chiyo struggled and Sakura was there. Sakura struggled and Chiyo was there... not that complex lol.
Moot, and immeasurable as to who needed who more since neither of them could defeat Sasori.
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