The question you people should be asking yourselves is..
..can Current Sakura beat a part 1 Kidomaru?
What will happen if Neji hits her Tenketsu points? She will not be able to mold chakra.
Neji Is underrated tremendously on this base.
Neji is hella faster, more flexible and has the coordination of a GPS. He is more than capable of speedblitzing this fodder before the match even starts. Sakura will not even land a hit on him. If you people have not noticed, Sakura =/= Tsunade.
The only reason Neji was a good matchup against Kidomaru in part I is because of his gentle fist, and his various defensive attributes (rotation, almost 360 vision etc.) Kidomaru is smart enough to know not to get close to Sakura (if it came to that).. (although Sakura could just punch a tree sending a whole branch of the forest down.. exposing Kidomaru).
The only reason Neji was a good matchup against Kidomaru in part I is because of his gentle fist, and his various defensive attributes (rotation, almost 360 vision etc.) Kidomaru is smart enough to know not to get close to Sakura (if it came to that).. (although Sakura could just punch a tree sending a whole branch of the forest down.. exposing Kidomaru).
Sakura fanboy logic is too good. You assume that punching a tree or forest in front of a Dojutsu user will do anything. Sakura will be just as confused as Neji, and Sakura will more than likely miss anyway, as her attacks are not fast. You said it yourself, if Sakura charges at Neji, then Rotation will rock her lights out, sending her flying back like with Naruto. The rubble will do nothing because Neji will just dodge like Kakashi did. It is not hard to simply dodge when someone punches at you or giant pieces of debris come crashing your way.
Like I said, IF Neji hits her Tenketsu points, then she will be finished, as she doesn't have a second chakra to help her fight.
Sakura fanboy logic is too good. You assume that punching a tree or forest in front of a Dojutsu user will do anything. Sakura will be just as confused as Neji, and Sakura will more than likely miss anyway, as her attacks are not fast. You said it yourself, if Sakura charges at Neji, then Rotation will rock her lights out, sending her flying back like with Naruto. The rubble will do nothing because Neji will just dodge like Kakashi did. It is not hard to simply dodge when someone punches at you or giant pieces of debris come crashing your way.
Like I said, IF Neji hits her Tenketsu points, then she will be finished, as she doesn't have a second chakra to help her fight.
Sakura fanboy logic is too good. You assume that punching a tree or forest in front of a Dojutsu user will do anything. Sakura will be just as confused as Neji, and Sakura will more than likely miss anyway, as her attacks are not fast. You said it yourself, if Sakura charges at Neji, then Rotation will rock her lights out, sending her flying back like with Naruto. The rubble will do nothing because Neji will just dodge like Kakashi did. It is not hard to simply dodge when someone punches at you or giant pieces of debris come crashing your way.
Like I said, IF Neji hits her Tenketsu points, then she will be finished, as she doesn't have a second chakra to help her fight.
haha I am not a Sakura fanboy. I literally just said Sakura can counter Kidomaru (not Neji) by destroying the trees around her. Read words man. It's not that hard.
I actually hate when people try to undermine Neji's techniques when it comes to Sakura threads. Its funny actually.
If you look at this scan properly, since you and other people have been leeching off of so hard in Sakura threads, you will notice the rubble doesn't in fact fly upwards but a rapture in the ground is made alongside the large amount of rubble flying to the side, no large bits of rubble was sent flying into the air. Just clearing that up before i continue.
If I look at the scan correctly, I realize that the epicentre of the blast, where Sakura is located, is hidden from the viewer's eye. We can't even see Sakura in that scan, that is how much devastation was caused and the most important part of the devastation was hidden from us. If you look closely, large number of
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were sent high vertically, some as far above at elevations at 100 m. Everything within the red boxes are Juubi fodders BTW. Those massive ruptures which were created reached as high as 80 m so don't try to downplay this. The
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shows the height of these massive pointy ruptures.
Jump up and hit him? using common sense and manga scans the large dust cloud cause by her attack will leave her not even knowing where Neji is, if it wasn't for Naruto and sasuke,
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Not to mention several clone scame out to attack her. This means
1. She cannot see beyond the dust cloud of her attack 2. Due to byyakugan Neji is able to see her and trace her movements
Good point, I agree that the smoke cloud can conceal Neji's location. However, Sakura will already know Neji's location before punching the ground, and afterwards, he'll still be at the same location except in the air. Once she reaches Neji's previous location, all it takes is her to wait for Neji to fall back down and smash him into oblivion.
As for Sakura allegedly "not being able to react" to the Juubi fodder because of the smokescreen. Well first off, she wasn't even looking in the direction of the Juubi fodder. She was busy showing off her new power to her teammates. Regardless, there was an
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on her head signifying she knew that the Juubi fodder was right next to her despite the fact it wasn't within her line of sight.
Naruto and Sasuke being able to strike the Juubi clones before Sakura could doesn't mean Sakura herself couldn't have guarded herself if it wasn't for Naruto and Sasuke.
Neji having Byakugan to see and trace her movements doesn't mean much when he has no way of defending himself.
Now lets just keep in mind that this dust cloud is waaay smaller than sakuras so what makes you think if a sensory type like nagato cant even sense attacks through it that Sakura can easily navigate through it? She wont even know if she hit him or not.
The rubble doesn't even take that long to settle as shown in the sakura caught off guard scan. She is going to want to go for a direct assult in which neji can parry at even
That thin layer of chakra isn't parrying against a punch which is at least strong enough to destroy ribcage susanoo considering Tsunade's weaker punch managed to crack open a fully formed
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. Ay could barely crack open Sasuke's
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. That
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is nothing compared to a punch from Tsunade, let alone Sakura, and the fact is, Neji's chakra cloak that guarded a punch from part one base Naruto is far weaker than ribcage susanoo. A Kyuubi chakra cloak Naruto managed to deal damage to Neji who was in the process of an
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. That
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is even weaker than Ay's, which is weaker than Tsunade's, which is weaker than Sakura's yet it still caused Neji to
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In summary: Sakura's punch>Tsuande's punch>Madara's ribcage susanoo>MS Sasuke's ribcage susanoo>Raikage's punch>Naruto's punch>Neji's chakra cloak.
The arrow was shot at least 50 m away from Neji and he still got hit by it, is this supposed to be an impressive speed feat? None of this proves that Sakura is that much slower than part one Neji and by virtue of power scaling, current Sakura should have speed on par with part one Neji considering the fact her ability to use chakra to
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increased as a result of attaining the Yin seal which grants her
So speed feats have now been bagged. You chose to pick out speed feats that favour sakura when you forget such a feat that neji displayed. His arrows are way faster than sakura. She has never displayed such feats that will justify her to be "faster" than neji. His reaction time is much better and this is down to byakugan and the juuken style.
The arrows are fast, sure but they were shot at Neji from a pretty large distance and lost momentum due to going through many trees. Him having a Byakugan and the Juuken style doesn't make his reaction time high, are you serious?
Anyway here are some of Sakura's speed feats:
1. Sakura drops sleep gas bombs and immediately shunshins away from the poison gas a safe distance away (
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) unlike Sai who,
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, was unable to react (
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).
2. Sakura was
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against Juubi fisions. She managed to
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and travelled far away from her teammates. She also managed to catch up to the same Juubi fission she had previously sent flying away with her monster strength. The fission that was flying away was creating a
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which only happens when someone/something is travelling at massive speeds.
The fact that sakura is deciding to throw the sleep bombs, neji will be cautious. They may be explosives and like you said neji has no knowledge which is why someone of his intelligence will not be easily caught by sleeping gas. He will not stand there and allow them to go off while he is near. Sai saw the Tools and managed to get away. Neji's byakugan will pick up any movement she makes so if she goes to throw the bombs neji can evade before they even hit the ground.
Low diff my ass. and if we are going by manga character and feats then Sakura isn't going to use Katsuya in a 1v1. Its never been done, she is a passive/defensive type summon.
What intelligence feats does Neji even have? Sai, whose intelligence is on par with part two Neji's, who's above part one Neji in terms of intelligence by virtue of being older and wiser, realized what was up but still couldn't do anything and
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. I have yet to see anything like
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ever being an explosive in the manga. Since Sai, who is faster than part one Neji, who was fast enough to get behind Sasori and Deidara (
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), couldn't escape the gas even though he clearly saw it before the gas bombs hit the ground.
As for Neji being cautious of the smoke bombs... Well this is where Sakura's intelligence comes to play. In fights, there tends to be some type of conversation between the two sides and now imagine Sakura taunting Neji, saying that his eyes will get blinded by the smoke from her smoke bombs. Neji in part one was pretty cocky and may end up going through the smoke just to prove her wrong.
Furthermore, remember my previous argument about Neji being in mid air. If Neji ends up going in midair for the reasons stated previously in my post, what prevents Sakura from throwing these bombs at Neji's landing spot? Now he can't do anything about it.
When did I mention Katsuyu in my post? I said Sakura beats part one Neji mid difficulty without Katsuyu. With Katsuyu, it would be a low difficulty win for Sakura but the OP restricted Katsuyu so I won't touch upon her usefulness. Katsuyu being a support summon doesn't mean it won't be helpful in various ways in helping Sakura and defeating Neji. I'll only use Katsuyu in my argument against current Neji since Sakura can't beat current Neji without Katsuyu.
No you don't bro. I wouldn't even bother. The only argument they use repediatly is the smash ground argument. And even that argument they don't even use it right. It is a process that they think is instant. Plus they seem to think that she can see through the dust perfectly while dodging falling rubble perfectly and still perfectly attack the opp in the ruble.. Perfectly! Lmao -___- apparently she has the sharingan and byakugan plus is a sensor. And apparently she wasn't about to get killed if not for sasuke and naruto to the fodder JUUBI clones. Smh
I wouldn't even bother tbh. It's a waist of time, plus users like evilone are overly biased. It's like talking to dirt under your shoe. No matter what you say, it will remain dirt.. Haha
Lmao I still have to counter your Hebi Sasuke VS Neji post, don't worry, the only problem is that you made a very long post so it'll take time to counter it. However it is ironic that you yourself think rotation, vacuum palm and other Hyuuga abilities are instant but complain when someone thinks Sasuke's/Sakura's abilities are fast. TheEvilOne may be biased, but so are you and 90% of this site.
Yeah well here is my opinion:
Sakura without Katsuyu beats part one Neji mid difficulty. Sakura with Katsuyu beats part one Neji low difficulty. Current Neji beats current Sakura without Katsuyu mid difficulty. Current Sakura beats current Neji high difficulty with Katsuyu.
Neji is overrated -people think he beats hebi sasuke and tsunade. LOL!(especially given the fact that he got subdued by a water clone of a 30% kisame......)
Part 1 Neji doesn't have vacuum palm. So what does Neji do about Sakura's poison bombs? He has to rotation them away. And as he can't rotate forever, the moment he begins slowing down his defense gets penetrated. Also, just talking about the damage that we've seen down with Sakura's punch, do you really think part 1 Neji's rotation is strong enough to redirect that force. In order to redirect force, the which possess the centripetal force has to take some portion of that force first.
For those that claim rotation protects Neji from a punch to the ground there are two possible options then. Rotation can displace some amount of Earth. Thus one of two things are going to happen when the Earth moves up. Either he'll dig a whole with Rotation and won't go air born and be in that whole when the earth has resettled leaving him in a position where all of Sakura's attacks are capable of being aimed at the whole it's trapped in. (For instance, Sakura could throw poisonous smoke bombs in said whole and Neji'd be trapped) or Neji really is launched in the air by the land mass and thus the force is exhibited on his body killing him. But you'd have to be fairly stupid to claim the former (Rotation would dig a whole) so the latter is what would happen.
Additionally, Hyuugas tend to need stable ground to hit accurately, and when Sakura could disturb the ground at any point in time, accurately hitting the Tenketsu would be practically impossible.
Part 1 Neji doesn't have vacuum palm. So what does Neji do about Sakura's poison bombs? He has to rotation them away. And as he can't rotate forever, the moment he begins slowing down his defense gets penetrated.
Poison gas isn't getting repelled by rotation considering if that were the case, Neji would suffocate to death. Since poison gas is mixed with regular air, what will happen is either Neji gets poisoned or suffocates to death due to lack of air to breathe.
Also, just talking about the damage that we've seen down with Sakura's punch, do you really think part 1 Neji's rotation is strong enough to redirect that force. In order to redirect force, the which possess the centripetal force has to take some portion of that force first.
For those that claim rotation protects Neji from a punch to the ground there are two possible options then. Rotation can displace some amount of Earth. Thus one of two things are going to happen when the Earth moves up. Either he'll dig a whole with Rotation and won't go air born and be in that whole when the earth has resettled leaving him in a position where all of Sakura's attacks are capable of being aimed at the whole it's trapped in. (For instance Katsuyu could clog up the hole whilst using her acid so that the floor of the hole has acid and the there's no way out of the top essentially dooming him, or she could just spit acid into the hole that essentially acid is being rained down atop him and which he could temporarily avoid damage with rotation but as soon as he stops spinning the acid will take out his feet, or Sakura could throw poisonous smoke bombs in said whole and Neji'd be trapped) or Neji really is launched in the air by the land mass and thus the force is exhibited on his body killing him. But you'd have to be fairly stupid to claim the former (Rotation would dig a whole) so the latter is what would happen.
Additionally, Hyuugas tend to need stable ground to hit accurately, and when Sakura could disturb the ground at any point in time, accurately hitting the Tenketsu would be practically impossible.
Although I agree that a large amount of flawed logic is being utilized in this thread, your points are quite blind themselves. Sasori's hundred puppets did not have the striking speed of Neji; in fact, Neji has the fastest hand speed in the entire Manga based on feats. Provided that Neji gets in close, Sakura, who has notably poor reactions in CQC, has no chance to parry his 64 Hands.
Although I agree that a large amount of flawed logic is being utilized in this thread, your points are quite blind themselves. Sasori's hundred puppets did not have the striking speed of Neji; in fact, Neji has the fastest hand speed in the entire Manga based on feats. Provided that Neji gets in close, Sakura, who has notably poor reactions in CQC, has no chance to parry his 64 Hands.
Although I agree that a large amount of flawed logic is being utilized in this thread, your points are quite blind themselves. Sasori's hundred puppets did not have the striking speed of Neji; in fact, Neji has the fastest hand speed in the entire Manga based on feats. Provided that Neji gets in close, Sakura, who has notably poor reactions in CQC, has no chance to parry his 64 Hands.
"Neji has the fastest hand speed in the entire manga"
Then why did his ass get trapped in a water prison by a clone of a 33% Kisame clone? :l
Hebi Sasuke is faster than his part 2 counterpart. Hebi Sasuke was capable of touching Naruto w/o alerting team 7. I'm not trying to put Sakura at Hebi Sasuke's level, I'm just making the point that Neji's speed to a degree, not completely is overrated.
Also why would Sakura get close to begin with? Refer to any scene of Tsunade punching the ground/wall and causing an earthquake, it doesn't have to be a direct hit. Refer to the 20 juubi clones that got 1 shotted by a single punch.
I hate to use the databook bc I think it's a desperate argument that can only be used on featless characters (such as Tenten), but I'd truly like to see the databook stats, because then the people have no argument.
Are you implying part one Neji is weak or that current Sakura is weak? I remember you saying VoTE Sasuke beats her though.
Lmao I still have to counter your Hebi Sasuke VS Neji post, don't worry, the only problem is that you made a very long post so it'll take time to counter it. However it is ironic that you yourself think rotation, vacuum palm and other Hyuuga abilities are instant but complain when someone thinks Sasuke's/Sakura's abilities are fast. TheEvilOne may be biased, but so are you and 90% of this site.
Yeah well here is my opinion:
Sakura without Katsuyu beats part one Neji mid difficulty. Sakura with Katsuyu beats part one Neji low difficulty. Current Neji beats current Sakura without Katsuyu mid difficulty. Current Sakura beats current Neji high difficulty with Katsuyu.
Funny you say that considering he just got decimated.
So you're comparing Hebi sasuke to Sakura now in anything speed related? Cool Story! Lmao Me biased because I think Neji can beat/tie/EXBat Hebi sasuke with facts and feats? hahahaha How about the other 50+ Characters in the manga I defended Like it was nothing? Am I biased to all 50+ characters as well since I defended them?
You and many other overrate Sasuke, Sakura and many others because they are simple to defend. I get it. I really don't care anymore tbh. PPL think what they want, and this site isn't worth defending anymore. Have other things planned that might make this sight/site meaningful for me and a few others again. #JustWaitOnIt..
Meh, I think my opinion is changing a little with these arguments. Convincing I must say, but Neji does not lose this at low diff like most of you keep saying. Kidomaru Neji is not that weak. I don't think I have to bring scans of the guy single handedly striking at his spiders very fast. If Sakura even gets near that, she will meet the same fate as Kidomaru. Sakura's only defense is Katsuyu, but since you restricted it, the she has none. I'm still not seeing how she wins this so easily. If this was Tsunade then yes, but Sakura is not on Tsunade's level. Do you think current war arc Sakura could tango with Edo Tensei Madara like Tsuande did? I think not.
So you're comparing Hebi sasuke to Sakura now in anything speed related? Cool Story! Lmao Me biased because I think Neji can beat/tie/EXBat Hebi sasuke with facts and feats? hahahaha How about the other 50+ Characters in the manga I defended Like it was nothing? Am I biased to all 50+ characters as well since I defended them?
You and many other overrate Sasuke, Sakura and many others because they are simple to defend. I get it. I really don't care anymore tbh. PPL think what they want, and this site isn't worth defending anymore. Have other things planned that might make this sight/site meaningful for me and a few others again. #JustWaitOnIt..
When did I compare Hebi Sasuke's speed with Sakura's? Her attack speed and foot speed is slower than either Neji or Sasuke's but I'm comparing current Yin Seal Sakura with part one Neji, not Shippuden Neji or Shippuden Sasuke. I don't think anyone thinks that Sakura's attacks are fast but they don't need to be.
Genma and Raido managed to hold their own against the sound four in their entirety so Neji barely holding his own against Kidomaru doesn't mean he can blitz current Yin seal Sakura who is portrayed to be above anyone from the sound four and Shizune, who is around Genma and Raido's level.
