Sakura VS Neji CQC battle

Muki Tensei

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Wood spears didn't get through and its a fact shown to deflect the spears no diff. Neji just couldn't keep spinning to stop the onslaught of continuous spears raining like a rainy day during Hurricane season.

If the Force from A juubi who had the same force to send 2 giant Bijuu's flying no diff couldn't budge Rotation nor phase it in the slightest, nothing Sakura can do will phase it. Unless you think Sakura has more force and power then the Juubi...

That's the point though, something was able to get through Rotation. The way its works doesn't automatically negate something with enough power.

Depends, she has a better strength feats than the Juubi's Chakra arms. Its was Neji and Hiashi as well, not just Neji.
 

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That's the point though, something was able to get through Rotation. The way its works doesn't automatically negate something with enough power.

Depends, she has a better strength feats than the Juubi's Chakra arms. Its was Neji and Hiashi as well, not just Neji.

lmao No it wasn't, neji literally stopped spinning. And whether it was 5 hyugas or not didn't matter since neither Rotation was breached in the slightest! What are you reading??????? And the what Strength feats put her over the Juubi?????? My goodness What are you reading????????
 

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lmao No it wasn't, neji literally stopped spinning. And whether it was 5 hyugas or not didn't matter since neither Rotation was breached in the slightest! What are you reading??????? And the what Strength feats put her over the Juubi?????? My goodness What are you reading????????

That wasn't the juubi, those were merely some random spikes. The Hyuugas weren't even fast enough to dodge them, they had to use rotation to partially counter it.
 

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That wasn't the juubi, those were merely some random spikes. The Hyuugas weren't even fast enough to dodge them, they had to use rotation to partially counter it.

Yet after Neji stopped spinning he still was able to partially dodge them. And they preformed rotation to protect naruto so what are you talking about? because he was able to be safe while going sage mode. If you read the manga you would now

And even though Neji stopped spinning he was easily able to avoid the Spears no diff!

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Redis where he was, yellow is where he moved from, blue is how far he is from the outer print of Rotation. Basically he was easliy able to avoid the spike before it hit and his head band even landed on the ground. That my friend is amazing reaction and side step speed that even Gravity haven't taking its affect on his head band. :hooray:
 

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lmao No it wasn't, neji literally stopped spinning. And whether it was 5 hyugas or not didn't matter since neither Rotation was breached in the slightest! What are you reading??????? And the what Strength feats put her over the Juubi?????? My goodness What are you reading????????

You gonna get me turnt up.

The Juubi arms havn't shown feats of busting up ground that goes on for hundreds of meters.
 

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You gonna get me turnt up.

The Juubi arms havn't shown feats of busting up ground that goes on for hundreds of meters.

in a weaker form with its arm. Sakura was able to punch the weak ground that is easily damageable and that is some how equal to the def rotation or the thick skin and durability of 2 bijuu Or comparable to any serious def? Are you saying Sakura can send 2 Bijuu flying? And Hundreds of meters????? Where are you getting this BS from?????
 

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Neji low diffs her. Hitting her chakra points stops the flow of chakra that'll heal her and she dies.
 

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Just a heads up, Kaiten is a close range, defensive taijutsu that extends a few meters from the user, and therefore can be utilised in CQC.

While it is possible to overcome it through sheer force, it will take a MASSIVE amount of force to truly break it and at least injure the user in some way, something that only Kage level ninja would be able to pull off. And when I mean massive, Im talking about TBB, Chou Shinra Tensei, Kirin, Hirudora, EE, Night Moth, etc. Attacks that are both massive and powerful. It is also effective to crush it under a very large object with a great amount of mass like an enlarged body, small mountain, though it must be done quickly.

The point with the single (emphasis on the single) wooden spear that made it through Nejis Kaiten had to do more with Nejis slight inability to rotate it for long periods of time rather than any weakness with the jutsu, hence why he said that he wasnt spinning fast enough, as the core strength of rotation comes from the immense centrifugal force created from spinning. His uncle, Hiashi, on the other hand was not scathed at all due to his greater experience and stamina granting him a significantly stronger Kaiten. (Remember he has already fought in a Shinobi World War, so his stamina is much greater than Nejis. Plus the databooks had given Hiashi .5 more in stamina than Neji which further proves this statement)
 

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^ or simply put, the reason one wooden stick got thru was be cause kaiten was simultaneously weakened by dozens of wooden debri chunks.

the same thing happened w/ ythe spiders & their web-lines.
everyone knows this, they're just being petulant.
 

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You are making up stuff, that is not a variation of Juuken, that is -Juuken/chakra emitted- from every chakra opening in his body, the same process right before spinning and performing what we know as Kaiten.

U are wrong about it bein the first stage of kaiten as both are diff.
Full body blow is able to violently blast away anything in CQC and gives major damage.
The chakra shield for kaiten does not do this.

The "Gentle palm" on the otherhand is a large focused burst of chakra in the palm that will obviously hav a more violent effect compaired to a full body blow as all that chakra is focused into sakura's brain. unless u think cant focus large chakra out the hands/body for stronger results?

Quote: Sure..Hyugas can do that but instead they preffer to hit the target 64 times to prevent him from channeling chakra, that makes sense

Its the same way the hyuga's can kill with a glancing blow or by repeatedly attacking the heart/brain 64 times.
 

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If its able to knock chakra "away',why would it not knock sakura's focused burst of CES back at her when she meets the revolution?

Her arm would hit the dome unlike naruto's chakra charge

Naruto was protected by shield of ground shattering armour
No way is that kcm as weak as u make it seem,the only thing it lacks is more feats..
It already showed amazing strength and speed feats,along with not much evidence to assume that its weaker than the standard KM with fox eye's
All it lacks is more feats

Sakura's strength is a focused burst released at impact and as such it will bounce back the focused chakra at the place it came from,hands/feet.
 

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The second Neji strikes her heart, she dies . Not mention, Rotation can deflect her attacks or Vacuum palm can just send here flying when she tries to attack.
 

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The second Neji strikes her heart, she dies . Not mention, Rotation can deflect her attacks or Vacuum palm can just send here flying when she tries to attack.

> Hinata survived it
> Byakugou says hi
 

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This isnt even about cqc anymore. They bringing in non cqc techs like rotation and etc.. rofl.

Cqc is nothing more than hand to hand combat. Meaning 64 palm vs sakura's punch

Do neji fans admit he gets destroyed in cqc tho?
 
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If this is only a taijutsu battle then Neji dominates. Otherwise full powered Sakura easily shits on him.
 

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> Hinata survived it
> Byakugou says hi

He never hit Hinata's heart Lol . He wasn't even trying to kill her .

Byakugo has a limit. It's not long as people make it seem. Neji's vacuum palm is Taijutsu which doesn't take much from him at all as Obito says.
 

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This isnt even about cqc anymore. They bringing in non cqc techs like rotation and etc.. rofl.

Cqc is nothing more than hand to hand combat. Meaning 64 palm vs sakura's punch

Do neji fans admit he gets destroyed in cqc tho?

Not necessarily..
Rotation is a CQC technique that is used by expelling chakra from all the points,much like how sakura releases chakra in her fists to punch,neji utilities his chakra to spin..
Even without rotation neji will easily evade all her linear punches and counter with a 10 hit gentle palm combo to the heart/brain..

An if this is strictly taijutsu without yin seal or CES then neji screws her brain out neg diff without byakugan.
 
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He never hit Hinata's heart Lol . He wasn't even trying to kill her .

Byakugo has a limit. It's not long as people make it seem. Neji's vacuum palm is Taijutsu which doesn't take much from him at all as Obito says.

Sure, that's why the jounins . Neji's intent wasn't to kill when they started to fight, but it changed later on.

Um, I'n pretty sure that was her heart. Her heartbeat was erratic, and again, as Kurenai stated Neji's intent was to her. [ ]

Sakura can keep it activated as long as she has chakra. And with her seal, she is a chakra beast, easily top 10 material in terms of chakra reserves.
 
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Sure, that's why the jounins . Neji's intent wasn't to kill when they started to fight, but it changed later on.

Um, I'n pretty sure that was her heart. Her heartbeat was erratic, and again, as Kurenai stated Neji's intent was to kill.

So by this ur assuming part 1 prelim non bloodlusted neji>>war neji?
Are u also implying that neji's striking speed will not enable him to give sakura a combo of hits to the brain in one counter?


Not only that but it seems u assume that neji cant expell more chakra into his juuken to make it more deadly
 
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Sure, that's why the jounins . Neji's intent wasn't to kill when they started to fight, but it changed later on.

Um, I'n pretty sure that was her heart. Her heartbeat was erratic, and again, as Kurenai stated Neji's intent was to her. [ ]

Sakura can keep it activated as long as she has chakra. And with her seal, she is a chakra beast, easily top 10 material in terms of chakra reserves.

Yeah the first 2 scans are quite correct but your reason is flawed though. Neji didn't go all out with a killing intent

Why did Tsunade's Byakugo run out then? False. Sakura isn't keeping it active all through and it would eventually run out while Vacuum palm keeps sending her flying.
 
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