Is this joke ? In close combat Sakura can't land a hit on him and for the number one idiotic Sakura fan whose name should be obvious, Sakura aint dodging Neji's strikes. Attacking speed on close combat, there is no one who is faster than Neji in Rookie 11. His entire taijutsu style is based on accurute and swift strikes. Sakura is way to slow compared to Neji in close combat. Sakura might try to outlast him with her healing abilities but eventually she will fall. She has no proper way to injure Neji in close combat.
Outside of close combat taijutsu match, if she decides to use Katsuyu than that would be a win for Sakura at High diff.
Is this joke ? In close combat Sakura can't land a hit on him and for the number one idiotic Sakura fan whose name should be obvious, Sakura aint dodging Neji's strikes. Attacking speed on close combat, there is no one who is faster than Neji in Rookie 11. His entire taijutsu style is based on accurute and swift strikes. Sakura is way to slow compared to Neji in close combat. Sakura might try to outlast him with her healing abilities but eventually she will fall. She has no proper way to injure Neji in close combat.
Outside of close combat taijutsu match, if she decides to use Katsuyu than that would be a win for Sakura at High diff.
And to put the final nail in the coffin. Sasuke, with a 4.5 in speed and 3.5 in taijutsu did this to Sakura.
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Couldn't react at all. Neji is a 4.5 in both speed and taijutsu. Aka. He is superior to Sasuke in CQB, who owned her. Brute force means nothing if she can't even hit Neji. Her seal only makes her chakra-enhanced strength better, which doesn't matter anyway, and merely prolongs the fight due to regen. Ultimately, she'll be worn down and beaten.
Also, to those using the argument "saying Sakura looses is like saying Tsunade would loose." Do not tell me you're actually using scaling as an argument. By this logic, the Hyuga are known as the strongest of the leaf and Neji's a prodigy among them. He was a driving force in defending against the juubi. By scaling, Neji takes this by default.
And to put the final nail in the coffin. Sasuke, with a 4.5 in speed and 3.5 in taijutsu did this to Sakura.
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Couldn't react at all. Neji is a 4.5 in both speed and taijutsu. Aka. He is superior to Sasuke in CQB, who owned her. Brute force means nothing if she can't even hit Neji. Her seal only makes her chakra-enhanced strength better, which doesn't matter anyway, and merely prolongs the fight due to regen. Ultimately, she'll be worn down and beaten.
Also, to those using the argument "saying Sakura looses is like saying Tsunade would loose." Do not tell me you're actually using scaling as an argument. By this logic, the Hyuga are known as the strongest of the leaf and Neji's a prodigy among them. He was a driving force in defending against the juubi. By scaling, Neji takes this by default.
Because a Sakura who's crying her eyes out and beating herself up on the inside, is the same as a Sakura that has a "die die die" mentality.
Anyway, both you and the other guy's points were already debunked. Read Ice's post.
Databook stats only should apply when said characters involved in a matchup have not shown that they have improved in a certain area since the last book (2008)
Sakura has shown improvements in both speed, Ninjutsu, Stamina, strength, and Taijutsu. She can keep up and react to Neji easily, she reacted to god tier characters, after all.
Neji destroys. Sorry Sakura fans, this is one Hyuga you simply can't argue against. When last seen, Neji had a 4.5 in speed. That puts him on Sasuke and Kakashi's level. Do you think Sakura could keep up with them? He's also way way more skilled and Sakura, and the usage of palms rotation and air palm would prevent that awful slam ground argument that Sakura fans use. Neji keep wailing on Sakura until her seal runs out (and healing depletes it quickly in some circumstances. Ask Tsunade after fighting Madara)
Because a Sakura who's crying her eyes out and beating herself up on the inside, is the same as a Sakura that has a "die die die" mentality.
Anyway, both you and the other guy's points were already debunked. Read Ice's post.
Databook stats only should apply when said characters involved in a matchup have not shown that they have improved in a certain area since the last book (2008)
Sakura has shown improvements in both speed, Ninjutsu, Stamina, strength, and Taijutsu. She can keep up and react to Neji easily, she reacted to god tier characters, after all.
Oh yes, I'm sure tears clogs up vision to a worse degree than a blind man! Her emotional state shouldn't effect basic reflexes. She didn't even move an inch.
I like Ice and think he's a good debater, but he screwed up royally with that post. First of all, Naruto's said that bijus are fast, yet he's dodged them in base. He also said the juubi's fast, yet you'll see ninjas react to the 10 tails. Kaguya in that form could strike fast, but it's another thing entirely to fight a target that uses body flicker and can move freely instead of linear attacks. On top of this, he's wrong about yin seal improving speed. This is certainly false as no such effect has been stated. And then there's Tsunade. With the seal, she has a 3.5 in speed, no faster than base Naruto through the Itachi arc. What does that make her speed previously? I hope you guys aren't implying someone who was legendary pre yin seal has the speed of a slug without it.
Now, with that out of the way, improvement applies to Neji also. He's leagues above what we've seen previously. A combination of palm rotation was enough to repel a juubi tail. He showed he got stronger as well.
Yo Draegod, if you are going to reply, don't expect a reply from me because I'm leaving NB until my midterms are over, okay? Same goes for anyone else that counters my post.
Oh yes, I'm sure tears clogs up vision to a worse degree than a blind man! Her emotional state shouldn't effect basic reflexes. She didn't even move an inch.
I like Ice and think he's a good debater, but he screwed up royally with that post. First of all, Naruto's said that bijus are fast, yet he's dodged them in base. He also said the juubi's fast, yet you'll see ninjas react to the 10 tails. Kaguya in that form could strike fast, but it's another thing entirely to fight a target that uses body flicker and can move freely instead of linear attacks. On top of this, he's wrong about yin seal improving speed. This is certainly false as no such effect has been stated. And then there's Tsunade. With the seal, she has a 3.5 in speed, no faster than base Naruto through the Itachi arc. What does that make her speed previously? I hope you guys aren't implying someone who was legendary pre yin seal has the speed of a slug without it..
Now, with that out of the way, improvement applies to Neji also. He's leagues above what we've seen previously. A combination of palm rotation was enough to repel a juubi tail. He showed he got stronger as well.
You're underestimating how much emotions affect people. When emotionally distressed, I can't even form a coherent sentence, let alone be conscious of my surroundings to dodge an incoming attack.
Naruto at the point he fought the bijuu, even in base, is >>> Sakura in terms of speed. Him dodging them isn't much. Now, Sakura dodging something that God mode Naruto found fast, is. She was able to visually, mentally, and physically keep up with God tier characters. Unless you're telling me Neji is faster than the aforementioned god tiers and therefore Sakura can't react to him. Yes Neji may be literally faster, but Sakura can react to everything he does.
As for Yin Seal increasing speed...I think you're looking at it the wrong way. Sakura has objectively shown better speed/reaction feats after developing the Yin Seal, this does not necessarily mean her speed increased BECAUSE of the seal.
That cant be the case as the imperfect rotation defeated kurama's chakra and blasted it away from naruto while complete rotation by war neji could knock back the juubi's tail with ease..And it also seems you forget wat a burst of chakra at impact means,it means small controled burst normal blue chakra which with timing=CES which rotation counters with manga facts..ice is a good debater but he was wrong about alot of things and if you look at his posts,he neglects to consider neji's intelligence in all his little claims he stamps as facts.And he said sakura is faster than un weighted lee,which is ignorant to the taijutsu specialist and in the case of sakura's CES,its not about reserves,as no matter the power rotation can blost it away as even a non spinning rotation can knock away kurama's chakra
Did you even read the thread I posted? I don't think you even clicked on it or else you wouldn't be talking about a scan. Naruto didn't use the full power and chakra of Kurama so once again terrible argument.
Rotation gets stronger depending on how strong the attacking force of what its defending against is
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as you can see in naruto's case,when he got only the first stage of rotation complete,he could knock away all kurama's chakra off naruto,while when it was used against base naruto,no chakra it logically only knocked him away
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which show's power and focus of chakra=<power defence of rotation which when complete can slap the juubi's tail which is>>complete susanno in size.wat will it do to CES?..It will be her downfall
Yo Draegod, if you are going to reply, don't expect a reply from me because I'm leaving NB until my midterms are over, okay? Same goes for anyone else that counters my post.
Its all good focus on school. I myself had to find time to make this post qucikly. Goodluck and focus RT (that means Real talk). This Naruto stuff is just fun and games bro.
I showed you a ton of feats so your point is moot. I didn't use ranks, I used power levels and beginning of Shippuden Sakura was a chuunin, with the Yin seal, she is far above that level. Hype is still a valid argument whether you like it or not. Hagoromo has no speed feats but we know for a fact that this guy is much faster than Minato who has tons of speed feats. If we don't have feats to go off of, we go by rank, these guys were ordinary jounin level.
We saw that Kurenai is fast enough to react to a blitz from Itachi by blocking it with her arms but that also shows that she is far inferior to Itachi when it comes to speed but still fast enough to react. Likewise, Sakura reacted to speeds much faster than Itachi so she reacts better than Kurenai does. The info I'm going off of is in the manga, go read it.
...Are you serious right now? Neji didn't even speed blitz in the slightest!!!! that is not Neji try to run his fastest nor anything close to that. lol
Fact 1: the 4 Joinin it took to stop him wasn't his Enemy
Fact 2: He wasn't worried about them and wasn't going to strike his highers/resist
Fact 3: She didn't even stop him herself so it is a moot point.
Fact 4: that was beginning of Naruto part 1 pre-naruto fight neji who is no where near Neji before death!
The fact you even mention this pitiful scene that literally meant nothing and doesn't even mean anything to neji is beyond sad.. But since you wanna bring speed up; how about the fast A taijutsu Master Gai noted that you need the speed of 5 gate lee to defeat Neji in Taijutsu:
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And keep in mind this is Gennin Neji!!! Yet Kishimoto made Gai a Taijutsu Master and one of the all time fastest Ninjas ever introduced (speed knowledge and taijutsu knowledge) stated you need Lee's 6 gate Speed plus Combos to Defeat Neji! Are you saying Kurenai and the others are base 5 gate lee speed and can mimic or even compare to what Lee displayed against Gaara? Since we're going off "Portrayed/Portrayal", neji is Portrayed to be better then any ninja that cannot mimic or match 5 gate Guy speed. Oh but wait! This isn't a Portrayal, It is a fact out of Guy's/Kishimoto Mouth.
Furthermore, the manga implied that special jounins like Genma and Raido were on a whole other level compared to members of the sound four individually (
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and instead relied on using his palms to repel the webs or he used his Byakugan to get a preemptive view which ordinary shinobi like Genma and Raidou have no luxury doing.
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whereas ordinary jounin with a much larger blind spot obviously won't get hit by the webs or else Kishi wouldn't have put them on a higher level if they would get defeated so easily. In other words, Neji's speed feats in part one aren't as great as some people think.
How does that Imply they are faster then SRA Neji? How does that show they are faster then Joining Neji? What does them fighting the sound four have anything to do with speed when nothing was shown nor hinted it was a speed battle!
The webs were wide and had a Huge Diameter, you dont try and duck and dodge, you simply move out the way. Neji tried to cut them but was overwhelmed Because of how much was
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And what Does Neji's Blind spot being specifically targeted and aimed at have to do with anything Sakura related?
He couldn't even dodge arrows from over 50 m away every single time Kidomaru used them (
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to hit that small area which implies a guy much slower than the likes of Genma and Raidou managed to get behind Neji through guided arrows. People will use the excuse that Neji was weakened so he wasn't fast anymore yet he was so fast that he
You try and Down play Kido's Arrow like it was nothing. lol Not only were his Arrows 100% accurate! They are extremely fast and powerful! Plus on top of all of that!.... NEJI WAS ALREADY HURT LIMPING AND BADLY WOUNDED! Are you blind? Or was he in perfect Condition the entire time the 120% accurate Arrows were being shot?
Databook 2 - Kumousenkyuu:
Black box:
秘伝 忍術 蜘蛛戦弓・凄裂
Secret jutsu Ninjutsu Spider War Bow – Terrible split
使用者 鬼童丸
User Kidoumaru
Picture and heading:
八肢が導く絶望の破壊操弓！！
The devastating 8-legged bow of despair!!
疾速・的確なる強弓全てを射抜かん！！
Piercing all with blinding speed and accuracy!!
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「一撃必殺」の理想を極めた破壊弓術。放たれしその矢は八肢を活用し、弦の張力を尋常ならざるレベルまで増 大することができる。また、矢にはチャクラを流す糸をつけて、標的の五十m手前までコントロールすることで 驚異の命中率を誇る。
A destructive archery jutsu that is the perfect “one hit kill”. By using his eight legs, Kidoumaru can boost the tension in the bow to extraordinary level. Also, by attaching a chakra thread to the arrow he can control it up to 50 metres from his target, achieving an astounding accuracy.
加えて“状態2”になり開眼する、三つ目の眼による照準は正確無比。相手から察知されないほどの遠距離から も、神速の矢が標的を捕らえ貫く！！
On top of this, the third eye which opens when he enters “Level 2” gives him unmatched precision. Even from distances where he cannot be sensed by his opponent, his lightning speed arrow pierces through his target!!
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↑↓何百mも離れた所から、急所をピンポイントで射抜く命中精度。
Even from hundreds of metres away he can pierce his opponent’s vital spots with devastating accuracy.
I'll let you read what Kishi Wrote himself and you can see how fast The arrows were with unmatched precision! Yet Neji not only Reacted, he was able to dodge on some occasion despite being badly injured and in pain! They're aren't many ninja who can cross a Forrest in mere seconds with life ending wounds and chakra almost depleted my guy! Feats speak for neji.
Of course current Neji is much faster than part one Neji but even he doesn't have that many speed feats. For example, despite him having Byakugan which can anticipate what the opponent will do next by
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despite the fact he has the vision to see behind him and the fact Zetsu clones aren't small enough to fit in Neji's blindspot. On the other hand, Sakura when surrounded by multiple puppets managed to evade them with ease (
where you cannot do anything and are most vulnerable for counter attacks. Second, kisame Used a Clone tech which Neji
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besides the simple Hand signs since the clones spawn instantly. Then ontop of that the Water Prison Jutsu also Caught and Elite Sharingan user Kakashi with no diff plus a speed demon Lee. So unless you are saying Sakura wouldn't had also gotten caught i wold cling on to this. Especially since they weren't even on the ground yet and the water from the clones engulfed them before they could do anything.
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Then you bring up a Zetsu being able to sneak up and attack him? lel Zetsu when Using Mayflower or Clone shifting are untraceable! Period! That was an off panel sneak attack that meant nothing but to set up the Zetsu clones plan Obito had. Zetsu has the ability to use Mayflower which the Byaugan and Sharingan cannot notice or detect! Neji also was fightning and watching his comrades such as Hinata the entire time. And got caught with a sneak attack. Sasori's puppets are slow, period! They are not Zetsu clones who can be undetectable at times and make there Chakra type identicle to Neji's Comrades. Sakura on the other hand had help and blind side was protected and would have been killed off if not for Chiyo and her puppets Fact of the manga! The 2 instances do not compare in the least! How about we bring up Part 1 Neji Accurately dodging multiple rappid arrows from all angles and even though he had webs and spiders, was able to reacted accordingly! And that is only part one bro.
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Don't get me wrong though, Neji does have a nice speed feat in shippuuden that is often overlooked (
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so he didn't cover that great of a distance but the significance of this speed feat is that he managed to get in the way of
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. Regardless, Sakura has a similar speed feat when she intercepted Sasori's blade who was right in front of Chiyo (
Last second Dodging is Childs play to neji and just to note to the readers you got them speed feats from me when you were also oblivious(you're welcome like always for my info). Sakura doesn't even compare since Sasori was literally just standing there and made a forward thrust motion for Sakura or any standard ninja could intercept. Unless in your head Sasori moved faster then the Juubi's Pinpoint super fast strike? Not even close to being the same instance!
Now I'm not trying to say EP2 Sakura is faster than Neji when the databook as well as manga portrayal puts Neji's speed to be above EP2 Sakura considering
Irrelevant, seeing as though Sakura hasn't trained leading up to Current Sakura.
However, once Sakura got the Yin seal, her speed increased exponentially and now she is faster than War Arc Neji. She managed to
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which are said to be very fast by none other than Rikudo Naruto. Sure this is proof that Sakura is nowhere near as fast as the likes of Kaguya, Naruto, Sasuke and Kakashi but that matters not as these guys have god level speed. It's still a high level speed feat as Sakura could visually, mentally and physically react, just wasn't fast enough to outrun it.
Wait what?... How did she out run the arms when She was almost about to get caught???? The difference in the Naruto and Sasuke situation was t
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while Sakura was far away and
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. The fact that anyone think this was "fast" is a joke at best! She literally was skipping and about to get caught since the Arms had a long way to go before reaching her. Fact! I can draw it out if you dont get or see it.
Not to mention
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to escape Naruto and Sasuke and
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as she managed to evade Sasuke's spacetime when she was
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. Yes Sakura was above Kaguya but Sakura had to leap forward as Kaguya wasn't directly beneath Sakura but was also in front of Sakura as well as below her considering the fact that Sakura was on top of Kakashi's susanoo
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. All of this would require her to visually keep up with Kaguya which means she is much faster than she was in the beginning of Shippuden where she couldn't keep track of early part two Sasuke's shunshin. Not only that, but getting the timing to punch something coming extremely fast would require a much higher level of reflexes than Neji or EP2 Sakura has displayed. Not only that, but Sakura managed to time her leap properly before Kaguya bypassed susanoo completely. For someone as fast as Kaguya, she would take a very small amount of time to move all the way above Sakura's position but Sakura managed to send her back downwards in this small time frame
Time her attack? Really? It was a simple Punch! Kaguya had only one option and that was to go up to dodge Naruto and Sasuke, and could care less about Sakura btw. How is that a feat? Kaguya could have been killed Sakura off but she literally acted as though she was never there, just a mere body taking up space. Then you implying Kaguya was going top speed when she was hit? Kaguya was simply tricked and surprised by Naruto and Sasuke and about to be sealed so she attempted to go upwards since it was the only option to attemtp to escape the two. She did nothing major.
As for gentle fist, this is how it works: The gentle fist user has the ability to block the tenketsu of the victim by inserting their chakra into the tenketsu (
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). To do that though, the gentle fist user must be able to put in enough chakra to overpower the preexisting chakra within the tenketsu but scan 4 shows it has to be done accurately. Sakura is faster than Neji and has been trained in evasion so Neji won't be able to seal away her chakra points effectively. Furthermore while he can stop her chakra network, the chakra within the seal won't be blocked by a small amount of Neji's chakra considering the Yin Seal stores a much more massive amount of chakra and no Hyuuga has shown the feats to block a chakra point with
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stored into it. Furthermore if Byakugou is active, the Yin seal will automatically force chakra to flow around Sakura's body thus that chakra will eventually overpower the chakra that Neji used to seal away Sakura's chakra points much like what
You literally do not know how it work, sorry to say it. I'll break it down another time when I'm free in detail since you are literally clueless on the Gentle fist.
Sakura is not faster in any way shape or form! Where are you getting this fanfiction from? Neji and the Byakugan>>>Tsunade and Sakura in reaction, it is a fact he has better reaction feats then both! No disputing! And what Does 3 years have to do with There Chakra not being blocked???? lol Chakra is Chakra! period! Just because you have more of it doesn't mean it cannot be shut off. Naruto even with the Fox chakra opening his Points back up, after the collision his
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Kido Maru with
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! And keep in mind it is also a seal with seperate Chakra and Sage Chakra on top of that. I have Facts that Gentle fist can turn off other chakra and Sealed Chakra, where are your facts?
All in all what I'm trying to say is that as long as the Yin seal isn't blocked, the Yin seal will be forcing chakra to the rest of Sakura's chakra network and if it isn't enough, the chakra pressure will keep on building up until the chakra that is used to block Sakura's chakra network can no longer contain the Yin seal's chakra.
So Sakura wins mid difficulty without Katsuyu and low difficulty with Katsuyu.
lol The Byakugan with one strike to her network will make
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or explodes chakra from her body my guy! She is not magically immune with nothing to support it. Neji will make her body
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, or explode all her chakra buy releasing the limits of her points!
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Neji wins Mid if Katsuya is in play and Low if it isn't. And I didn't even Mention 70% of What Neji can do to overkill. This is Simply a Easy Match up for neji no matter how you look at it, Sorry Bro
So neji breaking free of kido's webs after the spare was shot and inches away from neji,jumping on the spare to blitz kido in seconds before he could even close his mouth is not impressive for a genin??..there are so many holes in everything you posted along with blatant ignorance to neji's genious which makes all you points moot and only sakura fans who kno ntn of neji will agree.Dregod has already mopped up the rest of ur posts while i cleaned up the dust of ur rubbish..
So sakura will run away from neji for the whole duration of this CQC battle?,if she goes on offensive her massive AOE can be turned back against her as rotation gets stronger depending on how strong the attacking force of what its defending against is
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as you can see in naruto's case,when he got only the first stage of rotation complete and still was able to KO naruto's kurama chakra
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while incomplete
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full kaiten blocks even juubi tails and can intercept juubi spikes,it will blast sakura with her own burst of chakra for CES which should kill her or KO the **** outa her..Come at me if you can argue
So sakura will run away from neji for the whole duration of this CQC battle?,if she goes on offensive her massive AOE can be turned back against her as rotation gets stronger depending on how strong the attacking force of what its idefending against is
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as you can see in naruto's case,when he got only the first stage of rotation complete and still was able to KO naruto's kurama chakra
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while incomplete
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full kaiten blocks eve thn j uubi tails and can intercept juubi spikes,it will blast sakura with her own burst of chakra for CES which should kill her or KO the **** outa her..Come at me if you can argue
Hm, Rotation to my knowledge does not throw chakra back at the attacker. It just tosses said attacker away. Saying Rotation will kill Sakura is just silly. If anything, it's just a minor nuisance, Sakura will only fall for it once before she comes up with a counter. Neji also cannot spin forever, shown when he was eventually overwhelmed by the Juubi.
As for Neji's intelligence, Neji himself would most likely prefer to stay away from her... assuming this is in character.
Hm, Rotation to my knowledge does not throw chakra back at the attacker. It just tosses said attacker away. Saying Rotation will kill Sakura is just silly. If anything, it's just a minor nuisance, Sakura will only fall for it once before she comes up with a counter. Neji also cannot spin forever, shown when he was eventually overwhelmed by the Juubi.
As for Neji's intelligence, Neji himself would most likely prefer to stay away from her... assuming this is in character.
lmao Are you serious? Neji will close the gap every time! Sakura is not a fast fighter and has no skills what so ever nor Technique. If Sakura ever gets close She gets Raped! This is not even close!
