Sakura Or Kabuto. Who's The Better Medical Ninja?

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Are you seriously trying to now define medical jutsu in order to somehow prove that Sakura is better?

Kabuto is a better medic. He knows anatomy, surgery, poison, the whole field better than Sakura and has more experience.
- Sakura has better self-healing

- Sakura has better expanded healing

- Sakura also does surgery

- Sakura also has studied under the person who knows the most about the body.

- Sakura is also better than him in making remedies for posion

I asked you a simple question what medical technique did he use. Because the thing is his medical technique would have failed and would have been worthless were it not for Tobirama and Hashirama's cells.... So again what is the medical technique.. If its chakra transfer.. that ain't nothing new.

In Sakura's case, she was dealing with a jinchuriki.. totally different form Sasuke's case.
 

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- Sakura has better self-healing

- Sakura has better expanded healing

- Sakura also does surgery

- Sakura also has studied under the person who knows the most about the body.

- Sakura is also better than him in making remedies for posion

I asked you a simple question what medical technique did he use. Because the thing is his medical technique would have failed and would have been worthless were it not for Tobirama and Hashirama's cells.... So again what is the medical technique.. If its chakra transfer.. that ain't nothing new.

In Sakura's case, she was dealing with a jinchuriki.. totally different form Sasuke's case.
Kabuto's a better medical ninja which is what the thread is about. Medical jutsu is only the basic aspect of medics, but not the only one.

1.
You can't compare since we haven't seen Kabuto's regenerative abilities. He said that nothing Itachi or Sasuke have can harm him because of his healing properties. Sounds a lot like Tsunade's ability.

So saying that Sakura is better is your biased opinion


2. I don't know what that means. Some bullshit

3. Kabuto knows surgery too. He's been performing it all of his life and has done experiments which Sakura has no knowledge of. He's a better surgeon.

4 Who knows more about the body, the person who figured out how to become immortal, deciphered the origin of chakra, performed experiments that no one else dared to do which granted him exclusive knowledge of the human body or someone who has just honed her abilities over time doing the same thing over and over again?


5.
That's just a biased statement. They have never been compared in such manners.




So bottom line is, you're just making stuff up in order to be right.
 

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Yup knew that. Because he had been put into the job. He was good with it.
OR he actually wanted to learn so that he could earn money and help his family. And <10 year old not properly trained can do a a much older person's job and he is basically not skilled.

just like Shizune was.... hence why she was taken in by Tsunade..
Or the fact that Sizune is Dan's relative and after his death Tsunade bonded with her and Sizune decided to take care of Tsunade. :/

In the end, its about chakra control.... which is again.. not Kabuto's best quality. Doesn't mean he isn't great in it.. it simply he isn't peak in it.
And you came to that conclusion how?

And his mom a partial medical ninja herself.. so yea.....
Sure .... I am sure an A Public Relation teacher is as good as a Biology teacher in teaching biology.

And he was healing normal wounds.. so yea......
At less than 10 years old age .... a age where Sakura despite having optimum training didn't have any form of skill. Also lets forget that Sakura having born skill so great that she graduated at the age of 12 while Kabuto despite having no Shinobi upbringing graduated at 10. That surely doesnt say anything.

You sound like those Naruto fans always trying to make anything related to chakra a chakra control feat.. lol.
You sound like usual self actually ....

Give this a read

Mystic Palm ..... This medical ninjutsu allows the user to speed up the body's natural healing process by sending chakra from their hands into a wound or afflicted body part. This allows the user to heal a patient without the need for medical equipment or surgery, making it very useful on the battlefield. It can be used to treat both external and internal injuries. It is vital to match the amount of chakra used to the severity of the affliction or injury. This requires a great amount of chakra control. Because of this, only a few highly skilled medical-nin are able to use this technique. Kabuto Yakushi demonstrated the ability to use it a short distance away from the target instead of through direct contact.

From narutopedia:

Kabuto at 9-10 years age actually did what only a few medic nin could do .... and actually developed a way to use it remotely WITHOUT Katsuya. Yet you say otherwise.
 
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Kabuto's a better medical ninja which is what the thread is about. Medical jutsu is only the basic aspect of medics, but not the only one.

1.
You can't compare since we haven't seen Kabuto's regenerative abilities. He said that nothing Itachi or Sasuke have can harm him because of his healing properties. Sounds a lot like Tsunade's ability.

So saying that Sakura is better is your biased opinion


2. I don't know what that means. Some bullshit

3. Kabuto knows surgery too. He's been performing it all of his life and has done experiments which Sakura has no knowledge of. He's a better surgeon.

4 Who knows more about the body, the person who figured out how to become immortal, deciphered the origin of chakra, performed experiments that no one else dared to do which granted him exclusive knowledge of the human body or someone who has just honed her abilities over time doing the same thing over and over again?


5.
That's just a biased statement. They have never been compared in such manners.




So bottom line is, you're just making stuff up in order to be right.
1. Based on manga feats. You know the term "feat" that you and others talk about. Kabuto is the one who has to prove his regeneration is on their level.

2. expanded healing = healing thousands with different wounds at the same time

3. You are the one who tried to say Kabuto knows surgery hence hes better.. rofl.. i'm just letting you know she knows it to. Hes a better surgeon? Nah, i would take the one who can literally grab your hear to pump it and then seal it.

4. The person orochimaru went to when he lost his arm =]. The person who told us how rasenshuriken works.

5. Again Manga feat, that you can't counter.

So should i start using "your opinion" when someone says Kaguya is stronger than Madara? "nah just your opinion never been compared in the manga"

So the bottomline you can't counter anything i said on that list. o_O. Instead tried to downgrade Tsunade and upgrade Orochimaru in the knowledge of medical category.

OR he actually wanted to learn so that he could earn money and help his family. And <10 year old not properly trained can do a a much older person's job and he is basically not skilled.



Or the fact that Sizune is Dan's relative and after his death Tsunade bonded with her and Sizune decided to take care of Tsunade. :/



And you came to that conclusion how?



Sure .... I am sure an A Public Relation teacher is as good as a Biology teacher in teaching biology.



At less than 10 years old age .... a age where Sakura despite having optimum training didn't have any form of skill. Also lets forget that Sakura having born skill so great that she graduated at the age of 12 while Kabuto despite having no Shinobi upbringing graduated at 10. That surely doesnt say anything.



You sound like usual self actually ....

Give this a read

Mystic Palm ..... This medical ninjutsu allows the user to speed up the body's natural healing process by sending chakra from their hands into a wound or afflicted body part. This allows the user to heal a patient without the need for medical equipment or surgery, making it very useful on the battlefield. It can be used to treat both external and internal injuries. It is vital to match the amount of chakra used to the severity of the affliction or injury. This requires a great amount of chakra control. Because of this, only a few highly skilled medical-nin are able to use this technique. Kabuto Yakushi demonstrated the ability to use it a short distance away from the target instead of through direct contact.

From narutopedia:

Kabuto at 9-10 years age actually did what only a few medic nin could do .... and actually developed a way to use it remotely WITHOUT Katsuya. Yet you say otherwise.
Sakura mastered the mystic palm in matter of days.... well let me not talk about anime here, otherwise yall would rant me down. So just strictly manga my bad.

I see you got offended because i stated he had been started as that since he was a kid.. gotcha.

Not properly trained? woah woah.. his mom was a medical ninja.. what in the blue hell do you mean not properly trained.

Lets just look at the fact. Sakura did everything Kabuto accomplished so far in matter of 4 years.... Yet you wanna talk about him having more potential? please..... just stop.

Hell Shizune might be more skilled than Kabuto in surgeries and other things also. She has a talent for medical ninjutsu also.

Also never knew medical ninja can't be spies. And lets just forget she was the captain of Medic corps.. o_O

Also if you are gonna reply back reply in a single quote.. its much easier to counter that way.
 
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1. Based on manga feats. You know the term "feat" that you and others talk about. Kabuto is the one who has to prove his regeneration is on their level.

2. expanded healing = healing thousands with different wounds at the same time

3. You are the one who tried to say Kabuto knows surgery hence hes better.. rofl.. i'm just letting you know she knows it to. Hes a better surgeon? Nah, i would take the one who can literally grab your hear to pump it and then seal it.

4. The person orochimaru went to when he lost his arm =]. The person who told us how rasenshuriken works.

5. Again Manga feat, that you can't counter.

So should i start using "your opinion" when someone says Kaguya is stronger than Madara? "nah just your opinion never been compared in the manga"

So the bottomline you can't counter anything i said on that list. o_O. Instead tried to downgrade Tsunade and upgrade Orochimaru in the knowledge of medical category.
1. OK well Kabuto is able to regenerate his entire body through oral rebirth. That is a much better feat than Sakura's. Sakura never lost limbs and only healed small stab wounds so far. So Kabuto>Sakura in that department based on "feat"


2. She had help from her summon, so that doesn't really count since we're only comparing their own abilities. If you want to count Sakura's summon, then Kabuto can use Edo Tensei and heal with his edo medics. So same difference


3. Kabuto is a better surgeon. Was she successful in her surgery? Nope. Kabuto was. Kabuto>Sakura


4. Ok, no point in arguing this one since we both don't agree and never will


5. That's not a manga feat. Kabuto makes poison so he has knowledge. There is no way to compare who has more knowledge in that department, you are being biased.


Bottom line is you're desperate and biased. I don't have to counter anything because everything you said was not true. You can't compare two things based on assumption alone.

Kaguya is stronger then Madara. That's not an opinion, that's fact.
 

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1. OK well Kabuto is able to regenerate his entire body through oral rebirth. That is a much better feat than Sakura's. Sakura never lost limbs and only healed small stab wounds so far. So Kabuto>Sakura in that department based on "feat"


2. She had help from her summon, so that doesn't really count since we're only comparing their own abilities. If you want to count Sakura's summon, then Kabuto can use Edo Tensei and heal with his edo medics. So same difference


3. Kabuto is a better surgeon. Was she successful in her surgery? Nope. Kabuto was. Kabuto>Sakura


4. Ok, no point in arguing this one since we both don't agree and never will


5. That's not a manga feat. Kabuto makes poison so he has knowledge. There is no way to compare who has more knowledge in that department, you are being biased.


Bottom line is you're desperate and biased. I don't have to counter anything because everything you said was not true. You can't compare two things based on assumption alone.

Kaguya is stronger then Madara. That's not an opinion, that's fact.
1. That is not regeneration sorry. That is obtaining a new form of body. Otherwise he wouldn't need Karin's regeneration. So we are not acknowledging what the owner of that jutsu said about that jutsu right? And Yin seal = allows person to attack despite being stabbed. Anything like Kabuto? nah. Oral rebirth is not a medical technique btw..

2. A summon that sucks her chakra. Aren't you one of the people who used to say summons are part of the user's power. And without having the Yin seal.. she can't do remote healing.. sorry but yea. Nice excuse to take that out of Sakura's arsenal tho.

3. Nah i'm gonna go with Sakura on this.. If all Naruto needed was a pump to get his blood going again.. Sakura would've been successful. =]. Sadly, even Kabuto wouldn't have been able to revive Naruto.

4. Well you don't like Tsunade and usually bash her down. So eh.

5. Sakura trained under the person who used to counter countless of poisons.. yet she wouldn't have any knowledge.. in regards to poison Shizune is superior to Kabuto also. You are mistaking the ability of creating poisons and countering them vs having them created. Sasori is a great poison creator.. yet Sakura made his look easy to counter.. o_O.


Bottom line is : You still haven't proven me wrong. Rofl.
 

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1. That is not regeneration sorry. That is obtaining a new form of body. Otherwise he wouldn't need Karin's regeneration. So we are not acknowledging what the owner of that jutsu said about that jutsu right? And Yin seal = allows person to attack despite being stabbed. Anything like Kabuto? nah. Oral rebirth is not a medical technique btw..

2. A summon that sucks her chakra. Aren't you one of the people who used to say summons are part of the user's power. And without having the Yin seal.. she can't do remote healing.. sorry but yea. Nice excuse to take that out of Sakura's arsenal tho.

3. Nah i'm gonna go with Sakura on this.. If all Naruto needed was a pump to get his blood going again.. Sakura would've been successful. =]. Sadly, even Kabuto wouldn't have been able to revive Naruto.

4. Well you don't like Tsunade and usually bash her down. So eh.

5. Sakura trained under the person who used to counter countless of poisons.. yet she wouldn't have any knowledge.. in regards to poison Shizune is superior to Kabuto also. You are mistaking the ability of creating poisons and countering them vs having them created. Sasori is a great poison creator.. yet Sakura made his look easy to counter.. o_O.


Bottom line is : You still haven't proven me wrong. Rofl.
Your arguments have improved slightly from before.
 

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1. That is not regeneration sorry. That is obtaining a new form of body. Otherwise he wouldn't need Karin's regeneration. So we are not acknowledging what the owner of that jutsu said about that jutsu right? And Yin seal = allows person to attack despite being stabbed. Anything like Kabuto? nah. Oral rebirth is not a medical technique btw..

2. A summon that sucks her chakra. Aren't you one of the people who used to say summons are part of the user's power. And without having the Yin seal.. she can't do remote healing.. sorry but yea. Nice excuse to take that out of Sakura's arsenal tho.

3. Nah i'm gonna go with Sakura on this.. If all Naruto needed was a pump to get his blood going again.. Sakura would've been successful. =]. Sadly, even Kabuto wouldn't have been able to revive Naruto.

4. Well you don't like Tsunade and usually bash her down. So eh.

5. Sakura trained under the person who used to counter countless of poisons.. yet she wouldn't have any knowledge.. in regards to poison Shizune is superior to Kabuto also. You are mistaking the ability of creating poisons and countering them vs having them created. Sasori is a great poison creator.. yet Sakura made his look easy to counter.. o_O.


Bottom line is : You still haven't proven me wrong. Rofl.
Is that why everyone else said Kabuto?

Majority rules I'm right. lol

You saying you're right when everyone else says you're wrong, means you're wrong dumbass
 

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Sakura mastered the mystic palm in matter of days.... well let me not talk about anime here, otherwise yall would rant me down. So just strictly manga my bad.
Actually you cant provide the Manga scan for that and you know why? Because they dont exist and your bluffing with false claims. Similarly I cant show pages that states Kabuto leaned mystic palm in a few hours.

I see you got offended because i stated he had been started as that since he was a kid.. gotcha.
Offended? I am actually offended by your totally biased bullshit. You call Sakura skilled from birth when Kabuto actually showed more talent in her area at a younger age.

Not properly trained? woah woah.. his mom was a medical ninja.. what in the blue hell do you mean not properly trained.
Ohh really? Is medic nins are used as high risk Spies in Konoha? She had some skill in the matter doesnt mean she was specifically trained in the matter ..... Would you also claim that she was as skilled as Tsunade too?

Lets just look at the fact. Sakura did everything Kabuto accomplished so far in matter of 4 years.... Yet you wanna talk about him having more potential? please..... just stop.
If we list all of Kabuto's achievements in 6-7 years Sakura would seem a peasant in comparison. So dont start abt achievements.

Hell Shizune might be more skilled than Kabuto in surgeries and other things also. She has a talent for medical ninjutsu also.
Really? Kabuto Reanimated the dead with medical knowledge and presented them such that people like Kakashi failed to see what they are: Corpses .... Developed drugs like Sasuke's training drug by boosting his attributes, even drugs to suppress the all mighty wood release, not to mention a damned truth serum .... Developed a technique that reactivates dead cells aka Yin Healing Wound Destruction which actually allows to keep people alive nearly who should have died long ago .... Can use Remote healing with out Katsuya, a feat even Tsunade havent even shown ... Have done Genetic Engineering and cloning .... Developed a way to survive a safe DNA infusion method, which under normal condition has 98% mortality rate .... And you think Sizune might be bit more skilled in other things?

Also if you are gonna reply back reply in a single quote.. its much easier to counter that way.
Yes ... Organised and proper counter can appear hard.
 
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^^^^ I never said i can provide manga scans. I stated oh wait its in the anime, but you guys would rant on me about it so nvm. Is this what you do? Claim your opponent said something that he never did? really man?

Problem i never called Sakura skillful from birth in medical ninjutsu, i called her skillful in Chakra control. See the difference?


She was the captain of the Medical corp.... o_O but she wasn't skillful.. gotcha i'll keep that in mind

List Kabuto's medical achievement oh the 7 years that make sakura look like a peasent. Don't back down from this. And they better be related to medical ninjutsu.

Thats cool yea he did all that yup. But sadly is any of the poison as hyped up as Sasori's? You know the one that was believed to have no cure? But i'm giving the poison teritory to Kabuto because he has created many.

However, as far as remedies goes Sakura still takes it.

Remote healing without Katsuyu? Oh my, show me this please.

Also "dead sould technique" is not pure medical ninjutsu teachnique that requires much prep time. But i'll give this to you. But again in which category does this make him superior?

And fusion clone dna.. u said it has 98% chance ... so he is out of those 2% that did it. But again, which category of medical ninjutsu are we talking here? rofl.


- Multiple healing and healing different wounds at the same time = Sakura


- Remedies = Sakura

- Poison = Kabuto

- Self-healing = Sakura


See now the problem here is Kabuto has more time. That is his daily job. However, on Sakura's side we have no clue about what she did as a medical ninja.

Also, Orochimaru did surgery and bio engineering before Kabuto ever came in. He is superior to Tsunade also? rofl.

I'm dropping this now with you and lightbringer, this is only gonna lead to further pointless debate where no sides are gonna agree.
 

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^^^^ I never said i can provide manga scans. I stated oh wait its in the anime, but you guys would rant on me about it so nvm. Is this what you do? Claim your opponent said something that he never did? really man?

Problem i never called Sakura skillful from birth in medical ninjutsu, i called her skillful in Chakra control. See the difference?


She was the captain of the Medical corp.... o_O but she wasn't skillful.. gotcha i'll keep that in mind

List Kabuto's medical achievement oh the 7 years that make sakura look like a peasent. Don't back down from this. And they better be related to medical ninjutsu.

Thats cool yea he did all that yup. But sadly is any of the poison as hyped up as Sasori's? You know the one that was believed to have no cure? But i'm giving the poison teritory to Kabuto because he has created many.

However, as far as remedies goes Sakura still takes it.

Remote healing without Katsuyu? Oh my, show me this please.

Also "dead sould technique" is not pure medical ninjutsu teachnique that requires much prep time. But i'll give this to you. But again in which category does this make him superior?

And fusion clone dna.. u said it has 98% chance ... so he is out of those 2% that did it. But again, which category of medical ninjutsu are we talking here? rofl.


- Multiple healing and healing different wounds at the same time = Sakura


- Remedies = Sakura

- Poison = Kabuto

- Self-healing = Sakura


See now the problem here is Kabuto has more time. That is his daily job. However, on Sakura's side we have no clue about what she did as a medical ninja.

Also, Orochimaru did surgery and bio engineering before Kabuto ever came in. He is superior to Tsunade also? rofl.

I'm dropping this now with you and lightbringer, this is only gonna lead to further pointless debate where no sides are gonna agree.


That's because you never admit when you're wrong and continue to be stubborn about it.

I've been wrong before and I admit to it at least. I've never once in all my time here ever seen you admit to it even when 99% of the people disagree with you
 
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^^^^ I never said i can provide manga scans. I stated oh wait its in the anime, but you guys would rant on me about it so nvm. Is this what you do? Claim your opponent said something that he never did? really man?
Rant on you? Anime is never considered canon thats all I would have said. And in Anime if I remember correct Sakura was actually trying out mystical palm of fish and birds, in a month or two not days as you claimed. Also I actually expect my opponent NOT to bring up unreliable information that doesnt count. Why would u mention non-canon stuff away, hoping to make a point?

Problem i never called Sakura skillful from birth in medical ninjutsu, i called her skillful in Chakra control. See the difference?
And I just called Kabuto skilled/talented while you acted like Sakura was peak of chakra control from birth.

She was the captain of the Medical corp.... o_O but she wasn't skillful.. gotcha i'll keep that in mind
Skilled as much as Tsunade? Have to keep that in mind too.

List Kabuto's medical achievement oh the 7 years that make sakura look like a peasent. Don't back down from this. And they better be related to medical ninjutsu.
Plenty are .... but you would dismiss them as not pure medical skill.

Thats cool yea he did all that yup. But sadly is any of the poison as hyped up as Sasori's? You know the one that was believed to have no cure? But i'm giving the poison teritory to Kabuto because he has created many.
So? Hiruzen is hyped too, should bounce on the hype alone? ....... Ohh wait thats not all, the deadliest/hyped poison is actually Orochimaru's true form blood poison which can actually effect people like Hebi Sasuke who are poison immune. Not to mention Sasori's posion was created more for torturing than killing.

However, as far as remedies goes Sakura still takes it.
Remote healing without Katsuyu? Oh my, show me this please.
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...... Ironically Kabuto healed Sakura herself without touching.

Also "dead sould technique" is not pure medical ninjutsu teachnique that requires much prep time. But i'll give this to you. But again in which category does this make him superior?
Again you touchiness with pure or hybrid techniques .... It falls under the category of Reanimation/life-support, which is similar to how our doctors keep alive brain dead people.

And fusion clone dna.. u said it has 98% chance ... so he is out of those 2% that did it.
No Hashirama's DNA was tried out on 60 children and only Yamato survived. Considering that much failure chance of a method .... I think Kabuto might have developed a way to improve that chance before trying out on himself with a cocktail. That takes skill and knowledge btw.

But again, which category of medical ninjutsu are we talking here? rofl.
The category that falls under great knowledge and understanding understanding of biological function and their application without killing the subject.

- Multiple healing and healing different wounds at the same time = Sakura
Only because of Katsuya but yes.

- Remedies = Sakura
You claim it to be so .... and Sakura has developed only one remedy. While Kabuto have actually developed quite few peculiar drugs.

- Poison = Kabuto
Doesnt count.

- Self-healing = Sakura
Enlighten me how Kabuto wont be able to heal himself. Oral rebirth is nearly same as Creation rebirth. But ofc you will argue stubbornly.

See now the problem here is Kabuto has more time. That is his daily job.
Yeah like he didnt have anything to do in his time.

However, on Sakura's side we have no clue about what she did as a medical ninja.
Well did she spy and infiltrate for Akatusuki, care take for Orochimaru etc while taking time to hone his skills? Yes ofc. Its a shame that Kabuto had more free time than Sakura.

Also, Orochimaru did surgery and bio engineering before Kabuto ever came in. He is superior to Tsunade also? rofl.
I thought Sizune was the person and other medical fiends the subject? You want a goalpost with wheel so you can shift them easier?

I'm dropping this now with you and lightbringer, this is only gonna lead to further pointless debate where no sides are gonna agree.
Awww .... I gathered the proof of remote healing without Katsuya for you. I am hurt you wont linger to see it.
 
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