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I added plenty based on the manga. Check again. When did I even say I like Sakura better than Hinata?


Hinata understood Naruto's struggles against lonliness and isolation due to people thinking of him as a loser. Just like her father thought of her as weak. Nothing about Naruto being a host.

True, but remember for a moment that no one was supposed to know Naruto was Kyubi's host, and those who knew weren't supposed to talk about it. Not even Naruto knew it for a long time.

Nevertheless, Hinata understood Naruto better than anyone else, and even today, amongst his friends, no one really knows what he has been thru. I guess the only person who understand Naruto better than anyone else is Iruka, both because he also lost his parents, but also due to what Sarutobi told him about Naruto and for what he saw Naruto accomplish even at an early age. He saw the boy for "who" he was instead of "what" he was. No wonder he considers a younger brother.

For everyone else, Naruto was just a troublesome lazy boy who would be no good in his life ever. There were times even Sarutobi didn't believe Naruto would accomplish much. And let's keep in mind that Sakura only began seeing Naruto in a different way during the Chunnin, when he was actually winning. Before that, he was only the boy who stood between her and Sasuke, and only in part 2 during the Save Garaa arc she began do understand a bit more about Naruto's actions and behavior.

I'm NOT flaming you. But that's simply untrue. We see her change since the beginning of Shippuden. It becomes apparent in her thoughts and small actions towards him.

But that's exactly the problem, some of us see only what we want to see. Yes, she began showing Naruto some feelings that are more than friendly or even brotherly concern, and yes, for a long time I thought, and even hoped that Kishi would work on that line. However he didn't. Once they met with Sasuke, Sakura went back to her old self, and didn't even give Naruto a second look. Well, she might have during his wind chakra training, though I am not sure those pills were a sign of affection at all. Maybe she just wanted him dead :D

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Sakura is gorgeous btw

Yea, and he:
1. got mad at her and
2.turned into the Kyuubi.
Her actions were stupid. Plain and simple -.-
The true "geniuses" are the ones who find meaning and depth in a character that is no more than an overrated character with no more to her than her silly crush

Sorry to say, but your last comment is just sad, and show how clueless you are. Self sacrifice is the greatest demonstration of love that exists in the world. It's so rare that only a handful of people is actually capable of commiting it. Hinata didn't go down because she thought she could win Naruto over, she went down to give him a chance to stay alive, which she did. Still, her actions are her own, and may or may not change Naruto's feelings; that's a different matter. But to call self sacrifice a "silly crush" is just out of any reality. Ino has/had a silly crush on Sasuke, but never would she be willing to die for him. Hinata risked that for Naruto, Sakura for Sasuke, and I daresay she would even do it for Naruto as well, even if she doesn't love him romantically (which is not yet certain)

Lol. I just rely on facts. The main fact about the unlikelihood of Naruto ending up with Hinata is that he simply does not go around her. They almost literally do not interact at all. If the only interactions they have is on the battlefield, what kind of relationship could that be?
Unlike with Hinata, Naruto avidly seeks out Sakura. He enjoys her company and has stated he would protect her no matter what. In the end, it comes down to chemistry. He has too much with her. TOO much if you ask me, but that's not bad I guess.
All this time, Kishi develops their relationship, and ultimately, (with all theyve been through) I'm sure she would choose Naruto over Sasuke. Besides, he doesn't give up. Hinata isn't a challenge. She nearly throws herself at him and he doesn't respond in anyway. Is that not a red flag?

You are right, hinata is an underdeveloped character, but we may say that every character not part of team 7 (and hokages, Ero-Sennin) are also underdeveloped. For instance, let's take Iruka. He had a major influence in Naruto's life, but he seldomly appears in the manga, especially these days. Are we to say he is unimportant? We could also say the same about Sasuke. How many chapters has it been since Sasuke make a decent appearance? The importance of the character is not how much he appears, but how important those appearances are.

However you are right in saying Naruto's interaction with Hinata is minimal. For this pairing to make sense Kishi would need to speed develop her character a lot more, and it may appear to us as a rush up job. Regarding the "throwing herself" it may be that Naruto is just too dumb struck at the moment (or plain dumb anyway in love affairs) to realize what really happened.

On the other hand, if we rely on facts alone, it stands to reason to say that Sakura will end up with Sasuke, since she loved him forever. Had Sakura thought about both Naruto and Sasuke when that shinobi asked who was the guy in her life, or had no picture shown, as if she was in doubt, I would undoubtly belive that Sakura and Naruto would end up together. But that scene was a let down on this matter showing that despite everything Naruto did and accomplished for both her and Village, Sasuke is still the only one she loves.

So if we are to rely only on major character development, great feeling reciprocity for over many chapters and all, Naruto will end up alone, just as Sakura, and many others. So far, even with minimal appearances the only pairing that makes sense is Shikamaru and Temari.

In the end I must agree with everyone who says Kishi has a poor stlye writing romances in the manga, and that has been proven true over and over. I strongly believe that no matter which way Naruto goes, or not, it will appear to be only a half hearted effort, and undeserving of the story as a whole.

Of course the fans from one pairing or another will say I am wrong, IF their pairing is the chosen one, but unless Kishi puts some really good work on it (either way will be fine), it will be true nonetheless.

PS. Tsunade :kiss: Jiraya Forever!!!

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"Naruto would have gone berserk for any comrade in that situation, Hinata is noone special." is a emotionally inept. The relevant fact is that Hinata, not ANY OTHER PERSON, put herself in danger to protect him.
To the "geniuses" who said "so if ten-ten stepped in between Naruto and Nagato, naruto wouldn't't have saved her?" Congratulations. You have completely missed the POINT. It's not that he wouldn't, but that ten ten DIDN'T.

Besides the fact that this is clearly the most compassionate, romantic, and caring gesture anyone has ever made toward Naruto, there's also the fact that she won't give up on her dream and stands by what she says, which Naruto clearly admires in people. Sakura DIDN'T do that.

The point is that if any of the other comrade had of done what Hinata did, jumped in to save him and got killed, Naruto would have raged.

It's fine if you want to call Hinata's actions the most compassionate, romantic, and caring gesture towards Naruto. It's also true that Naruto admires people who keep following their dreams and stand by their word. Just keep in mind, that Naruto himself has never stated he believed these were the most important factors above all else.
Naruto also admires people who try to change and people who try to protect others. Sakura may not have given a compassionate or romantic gesture and she may not stick by her words, but she has changed for the better.
 
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Not trying to troll but you guys to need to relax there are completly good and valid point in both narusaku and naruhina so both are right you cannot predict the outcome cause it makes sense both way. you guys are a bunch of fanatic fans riviling it out. sorry for all the misspelling im dumb as shit
 

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No there are no valid points for naruto and hinata. as i said before, there is 12 years...570+ chapters worth of naruto and sakura developing their relationship. it's not all of a sudden going to be naruto ends up with hinata out of nowhere. and i mean out of nowhere as in naruto DOES NOT LOVE HER, DOES NOT TALK TO HER, DOES ABSOLUTELY NOTHING with her. he basically avoids her. he never even thanked her for stepping in during the pain fight. probably because he thought it was stupid, he told everyone to keep away. oh and saying sakura didn't step in during that fight because she doesn't care or whatever, you do realize that SHE COULDNT EVEN SEE what was happening? only the byakugan users could see since naruto was so far away. she didn't know naruto was in danger, if he was winning or losing. She placed her trust in Naruto, and believed in his strength, that doesn't mean anything to you? and I don't see Hinata blew his mind or whatever when she said that she loves him. He was just shocked, it certainly didn't look like she effected him to the core.
 

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On the other hand, if we rely on facts alone, it stands to reason to say that Sakura will end up with Sasuke, since she loved him forever. Had Sakura thought about both Naruto and Sasuke when that shinobi asked who was the guy in her life, or had no picture shown, as if she was in doubt, I would undoubtly belive that Sakura and Naruto would end up together. But that scene was a let down on this matter showing that despite everything Naruto did and accomplished for both her and Village, Sasuke is still the only one she loves.

Not really. Sakura loved Sasuke for ages, so it stands to reason that when asked, he'd be the first coming to her mind. It would be sloppy writing to have her suddenly turn away from him. What struck me in that scene though was how miserable Sakura looked when she thought about her love for Sasuke. She no longer wants to love Sasuke (that was also made obvious in her "confession" to Naruto), but has not yet been able to overcome her old feelings for him - not surprising considering how many years she has held them. However she is definitely in the process of moving away from him. I don't think she'll be able to truly fall for Naruto (if that's who she ends up with) until she is no longer in love with Sasuke though. It may take a final crisis (e.g. Sasuke actually killing people she cares about) to break her off from him.
 

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No there are no valid points for naruto and hinata. as i said before, there is 12 years...570+ chapters worth of naruto and sakura developing their relationship. it's not all of a sudden going to be naruto ends up with hinata out of nowhere. and i mean out of nowhere as in naruto DOES NOT LOVE HER, DOES NOT TALK TO HER, DOES ABSOLUTELY NOTHING with her. he basically avoids her. he never even thanked her for stepping in during the pain fight. probably because he thought it was stupid, he told everyone to keep away. oh and saying sakura didn't step in during that fight because she doesn't care or whatever, you do realize that SHE COULDNT EVEN SEE what was happening? only the byakugan users could see since naruto was so far away. she didn't know naruto was in danger, if he was winning or losing. She placed her trust in Naruto, and believed in his strength, that doesn't mean anything to you? and I don't see Hinata blew his mind or whatever when she said that she loves him. He was just shocked, it certainly didn't look like she effected him to the core.

Lol i know i think narusaku is the only thing that makes sense but has giving hinata fans the benifit of the doubt to end this none ending cycle of bullsh**. if you read my post in the earlyer pages of thread you would see i agree with you
 
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Oh true, I read all the pages just forgot who said what lol. I mean I don't dislike Hinata...I wouldn't mind it going either way. It just doesn't make sense that it would end up being Hinata ya know.
 

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Nevertheless, Hinata understood Naruto better than anyone else, and even today, amongst his friends, no one really knows what he has been thru. I guess the only person who understand Naruto better than anyone else is Iruka, both because he also lost his parents, but also due to what Sarutobi told him about Naruto and for what he saw Naruto accomplish even at an early age. He saw the boy for "who" he was instead of "what" he was. No wonder he considers a younger brother.

For everyone else, Naruto was just a troublesome lazy boy who would be no good in his life ever. There were times even Sarutobi didn't believe Naruto would accomplish much. And let's keep in mind that Sakura only began seeing Naruto in a different way during the Chunnin, when he was actually winning. Before that, he was only the boy who stood between her and Sasuke, and only in part 2 during the Save Garaa arc she began do understand a bit more about Naruto's actions and behavior.



Hinata understood Naruto, because she had lived through a similar experience. Iruka, like you said, understood what it was like to lose both parents because he lost both. Iruka would not have understood if both of his parents were alive or at least one. Hinata would not have understood Naruto if she had of lived a life of praise from her clan.

Everyone else saw Naruto that way, because he acted that way. Before Hinata came across Naruto training that one day her impression of Naruto was never explained.

Sakura began seeing a different Naruto way back in the Wave arc. Or you could just reread Naruto's fight with Kiba. While everyone else, Hinata included, was worried or doubtful, Sakura and Kakashi were sending each other "knowing" smiles.
 

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Sakura and Kakashi knowing Naruto could beat kiba isn't really relevant. We aren't arguing that Sakura isn't his team mate. We are just saying, if Naruto would go for any girl after this battle is over, it would be Hinata. This is because #1 she loves him #2 her nindo is like his, whereas Sakura #1 loves Sasuke #2 lies to naruto #3 has weak nindo.
 

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You know I'm not a big fan of this sakunaru or naruhina. But it does show little by little that sakura's feeling is changing when it comes to how she views naruto specially after the talk she had with sai. Little by little kishi has shown small specks of the real change of heart that she will eventually have. But in all honesty I really do not think he will end up with either one of them.
 

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Sakura and Kakashi knowing Naruto could beat kiba isn't really relevant. We aren't arguing that Sakura isn't his team mate. We are just saying, if Naruto would go for any girl after this battle is over, it would be Hinata. This is because #1 she loves him #2 her nindo is like his, whereas Sakura #1 loves Sasuke #2 lies to naruto #3 has weak nindo.

It actually is relevant. Seeing as how at least two people said that Sakura only began seeing Naruto in a different way during his fight with Kiba when he was winning.

You seriously think Naruto will choose Hinata over Sakura for those reasons? You don't go for any girl because they love you. You don't go for any girl because she has the same nindo or because another girl's nindo is weak. Naruto knows Sakura loves Sasuke and he has yet to give up his own love for her. Naruto got angry at Sakura and told her not to lie to herself, but he has shown no lingering issues in the fact that she lied.
 

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NaruHina is just like saying NaruIno. It's like Naruto saying he will be with Ino, a character who has never shown any romantic interest in him at any point in the series.

narusaku is like saying narukushi, so naruino here is more possible.
 

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tsunade+jiraya..naruto+sakura!!!!!!!!!!????????

dan to hinata :"let's get together sweetheart".
hinata: "ok ^_^".

so ridiculous

NARUHINA 4 LIFE
 

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some said sakura didn't know that naruto was captured against pain but it was wrong a byakugan user was with her telling her what was going on their during fight
 

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naruto: "hate the people who lies to themselves". wow what a narusaku development!!

But yet, he still does love her. We know that. The way he's always looking for her when he gets the chance and his and Sai's conversation. And we know her feelings have been developing too. I don't think she was lying when she said she loved him. She said what she said at the wrong time, as a decoy to what she was hiding, which was not her best idea. But she was hiding something because she does care deeply for him.
 
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