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A thread like this won't change a thing. Plus there contribution is hardly comparable.
Hinata is a shinobi too. Do you think it wasn't her job to fight when the whole alliance went to war to protect 8tail and nine tails? Every shinobi on the ground had that order and whole Konoha 11 rushed there for the same reason.
It also won't change because people like to troll and bait other fan base while ignoring flaws of their own favourite characters.
Hinata as a character is nice and devoted and all and kind of traditional wife material for a large fanbase. With a tradition gimmick of dark /tragic/sad past. She was designed as such. Most of the first creations of writers are like that.
Sakura is not that much better but certainly more developed than the first one. She is flawed and far from perfect and yet more believable. She has determination and worked for everything she got and dealt with disappointments head on. Even if part of the reason to work on her was because she was in Naruto's team and Kishi just couldn't keep her the same old one when her team maters were going though much bigger changes. (Not that he could pull it off properly in the end, but that's another topic).
Your argument that it wasn't Hinata's job is irrelevant because it was certainly in her "interest".
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The speech Hinata gave was not her job. The healing Sakura did was her job.
That is the story of this whole base. Your point?
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Last time when Jiraiya died it was Shikamaru who seeked him out and consoled him. If Hinata wouldn't do it someone else would have done. They let her take initiative because it was her cousin so it was a little awkward for others to take initiative in front of her.
Besides my post was edited and detailed.
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So your telling me someone else would be able to tell Neji's true feelings to Naruto?Last time when Jiraiya died it was Shikamaru who seeked him out and consoled him. If Hinata wouldn't do it someone else would have done. They let her take initiative because it was her cousin so it was a little awkward for others to take initiative in front of her.
Besides my post was edited and detailed.
lol Only Neji would know his true feelings and he expressed it himself.
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All Hinata did was to tell Naruto not to waste it. Neji clearly said he had duel reason to save Naruto- as a friend as well as someone who was obligated to save Hinata: " HInata sama is willing to die for you, that's why your life is not the only one"..
I would say Naruto was in shock because Neji reminded him his words in the chunin exams and irony of his fate.
Neji says he did it because of Hinata too and first thing Hinata does to naruto is to slap him and reminds him that Neji said that his life was not the only one.
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Tell me what Hinata said others couldn't have told Naruto if she was not standing just next to him and it was her too whom Neji saved.
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Even if I tell you this how does this change the fact that Hinata did it and no other shonobi did it? Also that whole scene played a part in NaruHina happening. There would be no reason to have a scene like this if it was for another reason.
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You forget that we are not discussing if Neji died for pairing or not. You were trying to use it to tell us how much she contributed to the fight.
You claimed it was not her "job" to motivate Naruto after Neji's death. Well it was her very interest which was directly involved here along with the war itself. Neji's death was in her name. So your whole argument that Hinata did things which were not her job is utterly meaningless.
Why would anyone else do it when Neji died stating that he did it for her too, he was her cousin and she is right there( and she saved her pairing). It would make her look utterly useless if she didn't and someone else from Konoha 11 had to do it. Although even Sai would have been able to get this much across.
One can say, it took Naruto two years to get over Neji's death and his irony of his fate and push from others to get back to his relationship with Hinata.
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I don't think you understood my point completely. Sakura is a medical ninja so it was her job to be there for Naruto and save him the way she did. Hinata is just a shonobi whose there to fight in this war. It was never her job to tell Naruto what he should do. Because she was not assigned that job. There is a clear difference here.
Now over here you are saying that Neji dying in her name makes it her job? Well when was Hinata some psychiatrist?
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Because you don't have a point to begin with. You came up with a really lame argument just to trivialize one character's achievement when the other one had few to her own credit. There is a clear difference- because Sakura chose to up her skill level to help out more. While Hinata got her cousin to help her in her goal and die for her.
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And I used to think you were pro Hinata......Because you don't have a point to begin with. You came up with a really lame argument just to trivialize one character's achievement when the other one had few to her own credit. There is a clear difference- because Sakura chose to up her skill level to help out more. While Hinata got her cousin to help her in her goal and die for her.
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I see no point to argue any further. I am just gonna respect your opinion on this.Because you don't have a point to begin with. You came up with a really lame argument just to trivialize one character's achievement when the other one had few to her own credit. There is a clear difference- because Sakura chose to up her skill level to help out more. While Hinata got her cousin to help her in her goal and die for her.
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again?
there is nothing to compare between these 2 characters Lol
Sakura never saved Naruto's life until the Last (he died after Kurama was extracted, her ninja medic skills did nothing efficient neither the cpr which is not even a ninja medic technique, she was in this scene just to give her something relevant to do again and Tsunade should have been with Naruto not her but hey it was a narusaku milking moment lol) and saving lives is basically her job, like helping her team mates is her duty, that's why she wanted to be trained by Tsunade remember?
Hinata saved Naruto's life more than once in the manga and yep using mental support basically and some physical support later (Pain fight and during the war, she's a fighter after all) and other skills (medic technique with Naruto's shoulder) all of this happened because her character is Naruto love interest.
it's not part of her job to protect him as a ninja, nobody expected her to act like Naruto's team mate either and that was simply not something she was supposed to do except if you see that the hero's lover is his heroine and he needed her to do all these things for him to pursue his quest.
Hinata is Naruto's heroine just like Kishi said, she's more relevant in this sense because without her he would have lost his path in early part 1 during the chuunin exam, without her he would have let Pain won, Kurama would have been extracted and he would have never met his father Minato neither his mother Kushina later in the story.
also, he would have died after Kurama's extraction just like Gaara and the entire NV would have disappeared into the IT in the end.
and finally during the war, without her, he would have listened to Obito after Neji gave his life to save them and voilà end of the story, Naruto would have simply failed 100%
these are the reasons why you can't let Hinata alone only, she's some kind of danger you didn't expected Lol
meanwhile you should not ignore that in the Last, Sakura did her job as a great ninjutsu user, as a good ninja doc and a team mate by saving Naruto's life and she also gave him huge mental support frankly for the first time, showing that she finally have respect for him as a friend, so he could stand again on his feet and save the woman he loved since years without even realizing it and of course the world.
oh and stop with the shitty Kaguya's fight, it's pretty obvious that GodSuke and GodRuto will never need her for anything and that Kishi used the plot to save her again from being forgotten in the corner like her character development and background because nobody gave a crap about that specific character...
you will never make Sakura relevant or interesting by degrading other characters, accept her for what she is because Kishi never wanted Sakura to be a super saiyan but only an average human being with an annoying personality.
there is nothing to compare between these 2 characters Lol
Sakura never saved Naruto's life until the Last (he died after Kurama was extracted, her ninja medic skills did nothing efficient neither the cpr which is not even a ninja medic technique, she was in this scene just to give her something relevant to do again and Tsunade should have been with Naruto not her but hey it was a narusaku milking moment lol) and saving lives is basically her job, like helping her team mates is her duty, that's why she wanted to be trained by Tsunade remember?
Hinata saved Naruto's life more than once in the manga and yep using mental support basically and some physical support later (Pain fight and during the war, she's a fighter after all) and other skills (medic technique with Naruto's shoulder) all of this happened because her character is Naruto love interest.
it's not part of her job to protect him as a ninja, nobody expected her to act like Naruto's team mate either and that was simply not something she was supposed to do except if you see that the hero's lover is his heroine and he needed her to do all these things for him to pursue his quest.
Hinata is Naruto's heroine just like Kishi said, she's more relevant in this sense because without her he would have lost his path in early part 1 during the chuunin exam, without her he would have let Pain won, Kurama would have been extracted and he would have never met his father Minato neither his mother Kushina later in the story.
also, he would have died after Kurama's extraction just like Gaara and the entire NV would have disappeared into the IT in the end.
and finally during the war, without her, he would have listened to Obito after Neji gave his life to save them and voilà end of the story, Naruto would have simply failed 100%
these are the reasons why you can't let Hinata alone only, she's some kind of danger you didn't expected Lol
meanwhile you should not ignore that in the Last, Sakura did her job as a great ninjutsu user, as a good ninja doc and a team mate by saving Naruto's life and she also gave him huge mental support frankly for the first time, showing that she finally have respect for him as a friend, so he could stand again on his feet and save the woman he loved since years without even realizing it and of course the world.
oh and stop with the shitty Kaguya's fight, it's pretty obvious that GodSuke and GodRuto will never need her for anything and that Kishi used the plot to save her again from being forgotten in the corner like her character development and background because nobody gave a crap about that specific character...
you will never make Sakura relevant or interesting by degrading other characters, accept her for what she is because Kishi never wanted Sakura to be a super saiyan but only an average human being with an annoying personality.
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