Sakura has not surpassed Tsunade

Rike Senju

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I agree. Tsunade will always have an advantage over Sakura for having senju/uzumaki DNA. Also should we not forget the comparison Hashirama made was of a really young age tsunade to Sakura. Not to mention tsunade has natural raw strenght.
 

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So much BS in this post i'm not going to bother. Let's just say, when Orochimaru was heading to Konoha, they said "If only Minato were here" not Tsunade or Jiraiya. Orochimaru isn't lacking, his stuff hasn't been shown.
1. That moment Hiruzen was looking at the Hokage, Anko is the one who mentioned it.
2. Tsunade and Jiraiya weren't part of the village, Tsunade had left long time ago, and then Jiraiya the same thing.. rofl.

Again, Tsunade wasn't "lacking" either.. Jiraiya had the SM since part 1.. however, we are talking about showcasing.
 

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You brought it up to try and counter my argument but it is completely irrelevant, you failed there, I never argued about Sasuke and Naruto surpassing him as tacticians, I said they surpassed their master overall which even Kakashi admitted LONG time ago. I don't think Sakura has surpassed Kakashi (battlewise), in a 1v1 battle I think Kamui Kakashi beats her.
So how did i fail? No you meant that Naruto and Sasuke can beat him.. and hence they surpassed him. You never mentioned "overall".. And no Kakashi only admit about Naruto.. he didn't say shit about Sasuke.

"kamui kakashi beats her".. sure.. if thats what you want to believe go ahead.. however, Sakura is beyond Kakashi's league.
 

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So how did i fail? No you meant that Naruto and Sasuke can beat him.. and hence they surpassed him. You never mentioned "overall".. And no Kakashi only admit about Naruto.. he didn't say shit about Sasuke.

"kamui kakashi beats her".. sure.. if thats what you want to believe go ahead.. however, Sakura is beyond Kakashi's league.

Ok man, so I said that Naruto and Sasuke have surpassed Kakashi a while ago, by Kakashi's own admittance (he didn't say anything about Sasuke but this was base Naruto we're talking about, before Sage mode, Sasuke as of now is way beyond that). You brought up some irrelevant point about how they haven't surpassed him because they're not as good tactically as he is? Which wasn't something I was arguing in the first place. Irrelevant point.

Now to Kakashi and Sakura, we'll have to disagree there, he's been shown to be able to avoid Sakura's punches fairly easily, he has more than a thousand Jutsu available to him + Raikiri and Sakura really has no counter for Kamui, if he plays it smart, he has more than enough in his locker to defeat her, that's my opinion. The only problem would be her summoning, she could potentially win if she uses that early.
 
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