Sakura grown beyond Tsunades teachings.
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Sakura chakra control is better, Tsunade can only blame herself for that, due to her fear of being ugly and old
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KGB Kakuzu
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Genjutsu she hasn't shown.
Her chakra control isn't that much better since honestly we've seen Tsunade reform her Byaougou seal in a meager matter of time as well as we've seen her fixing Shikamaru where Sakura could only delay death.
Her physical strength is only due to the fact Tsunade redirects some of her chakra to her appearance. She has greater natural strength.
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That's incorrect. Wouldn't Tsunade using three techniques at once implicate Tsunade's better chakra control. Because Sakura isn't multi-tasking she can dedicate more chakra to a single task, which makes the punch stronger. Not greater chakra control.
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1. Sakura has preformed everything Tsunade has been able to so would surprising or an ass pull if Sakura use's the technique? No. Were we also so pose assume that Sakura a MEDICAL NINJA couldn't use the chakra scalpel until she actually used it on Naruto?
The time Tsunade makes the quote it is a true statement. Until then, Sakura had not mastered the jutsu. So the use of this statement to serve as a base for claiming her Potential is greater than Tsunade doesn't really hold fast.
It does hold fast because at the age of 17 Sakura with just brains and chakra control has managed to activate a jutsu that Tsunade Senju developed. Sakura's abilities are still growing and they've already grew past Tsunades when she activated The Strength Of Hundred technique!
Regarding this statement on its own, are you assuming that Tsunade's currently in her prime? If so, I would disagree. Her prime would have ultimately been the initial years that she developed and used the Byaougou. At such a time, like Sakura, she would not have needed to divert chakra to her youthful appearance. Thus, her physical strength then would actually topple what Sakura displayed as we know Tsunade is naturally stronger physically, and with the extra chakra being used to increase her punch, logic dictates it'd be a greater blast. We can also presume that the technicque was developed at an older age than current Sakura, and thus her experience would still trump Sakura at such a time.
However if we contemplate the concept in mere simplicity, potential is ALWAYS greater than prime. Simply being because theoretically, potential is the dream of the greatest possible achievement. For example, every Uchiha had the POTENTIAL to awaken the Rinnegan provided they go through the steps and have a Senju to mooch of off.
As for your lineage statement... Quite simply for two reasons is she not top 10.
1. Fighting style. She chose her medical jutsu style. She has LITERALLY no ranged attacks. She's stuck with hand to hand moves. Her versatility is horrible, and thus, compared to the top 10 who have range... Or at least the speed (Minato) to counter lack of range, they can cover more ground and be overall more destructive when doing so.
2. She's a woman. Sounds sexist, but let us face it: Kishi sucks at doing women a favor. The only woman of even respectable power (top tier wise) is Kaguya. And she only got her power because she ate a fruit and basically got a free power up. It isn't even her own natural talent. Even then we haven't seen her doing jack.
In the end...Tsunade has the following over Sakura.
1. Medical experience.
2. Combat Experience
3. Chakra Level
4. Physical Strength
Sakura may have more potential; however, she'll never surpass Tsunade until she exceeds Tsunade's age and thus experience. Why?
Because they use the SAME things. However, Tsunade has more than what Sakura has shown, and has used it better or with more ease (experience).
If Sakura could actually develop the Genjutsu she seemingly was set to learn during part I (nicely forming a Genjutsu Sakura, Niniutsu Sasuke, and Taijutsu Naruto), she'd definitely have the chance to surpass Tsunade. Because like Sasuke and Naruto, she'd be developing her own unique moves and techniques that deviate from their masters.
So long as Sakura only uses the moves Tsunade has taught her, she'll never surpass Tsunade.[/QUOTE]
Sakura is known to be a genjustu type, and by the age of 12 was able to to dispel a strong genjustu, while Tsunade has never really shown any genjustu feats at all.
Tsunade only developed her seal post her prime while Sakura was able to do it pre her prime. The seal is one giant feat of chakra control.
Yes greater natural strength but since Sakura has better chakra control(above) she can hit harder.
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But last time in the databook, Sakura was slower than her and had far worse taijutsu, and she hasn't shown signs of really improving in either department.
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Yes, this was my point. Sakura was said to be a Genjutsu type, but showed nothing more than basic use of it. Tsunade has not shown to break a Genjutsu, but the Genjutsu broken by Sakura, a genin, was also broken by Karachi, Gai, Aoba, and a multitude of other fodder shinobi who's names we don't even know. Considering it was Tsunade who was chosen as Hokage, I have the feeling she should do just fine against the same Genjutsu feats Genin could even surmount. However, as it can be said, Tsunade never showed she could.
Yes, Tsunade developed it later, but she was the one who invented the technique. It's only natural for Sakura to learn it at a younger age. It's like watching a walkthrough of a game and then playing it. When you've already been told what to do, it's easier to do than finding your way on your own.
I'd say their control is on par. Sakura hits harder because Tsunade redirects a notable portion towards looking young.
Precisely. The claim that Sakura's is vastly superior is wrong in my opinion. I find them to basically be equal.
Would it be an ass pull: absolutely not. However, the technique is not a standard medical jutsu. It is in fact, a combat jutsu developed by Tsunade BASED on medical jutsu. Sakura hasn't shown to know of it. Until then we cannot assume she automatically has it. The chakra scalpel is a medical jutsu that is commonly used during medical procedure. It is far more logical to assume she, as a growing medic, would know the jutsu. Regardless, while we can assume to or presume she has a technique, it is still a fallacy to claim for a fact that Sakura has learned everything from Tsunade, or has everything Tsunade has.
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I disagree. Sakura's ability is nowhere near Tsunade. Look at the healing of Shikamaru. Sakura with the help of Naruto's chakra was barely holding on to Shikamaru. Tsunade walks over and heals with a tap. The only ability Sakura has that surpasses Tsunade is her chakra enhanced strength... And that's ONLY because of the fact that Tsunade limits herself by making herself look younger.
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1.When Tsunade had to refuse Gaaras request to help save Naruto and instead sent Sakura in her place, did that show any inferiority?
2.The combination of Naruto's cloak and Sakura's mystical palm technique kept Shikamaru from dying, Tsunade then accelerated the healing process by transferring the chakra she received from biting Karin.
But if you wanna
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1.When Tsunade had to refuse Gaaras request to help save Naruto and instead sent Sakura in her place, did that show any inferiority?
2.The combination of Naruto's cloak and Sakura's mystical palm technique kept Shikamaru from dying, Tsunade then accelerated the healing process by transferring the chakra she received from biting Karin.
But if you wanna
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Good thread, but this is one of the problems with Sakura: she's a carbon copy of Tsunade. I was hoping that she'd have enhanced and/or improved on the things Tsunade taught her. Guess a little innovation and creativity was too much to ask for.