[Spoilers] Sakura entering Sage Mode?

[Zee Seh]

lol i know u a hardcore sakura fan but still Sage mode is too OP fr her and u have to accept it.. also tsunade is her teacher if she cant use any sage mode so we cant even expect sakura to know any such shit ..and its not even confirmed that there is sumthin as slug sage mode. Lol nd we dont even know if hashi has a slug summoning.. so NO NO NO ! to ur theory... U_U

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Lol dont take it in offensive manner.. XD we have fought a lot of times just fr sakura matters...

 

[AaaaNinja]

funny how you all assume, the fact that someone claps or forms a seal doesn't mean that person is going into sage moreover did she go on any training of some sorts to manage nature energy:yeah:

You're totally right. I also don't get how come everything hinges so much on whether she'll get Sage Mode, what a character says and does can be interesting too y'know. Character Development is when a character steps out of their usual ways and does something unexpected. It's not the number of panels they have or the powerups that they gain. It was when Sakura insisted that she fight alongside Naruto and Sasuke as equals, not the powerups or summons that she got when she joined them, those were just the icing on the cake; representations of her being on an equal level with her teammates.

 

[Honord Sage]

Character development for Sakura would be if Her attitude Toward Sasuke,Naruto and Lee change if She became less violent toward Her friends. If She learn to control Her temper and expresses Her self in a non violent way to People,If She slap Sasuke when He was wrong instead of going into Her Sasuke = Kun act. Power development is different from personal character development.

 

[AaaaNinja]

Character development for Sakura would be if Her attitude Toward Sasuke,Naruto and Lee change if She became less violent toward Her friends. If She learn to control Her temper and expresses Her self in a non violent way to People,If She slap Sasuke when He was wrong instead of going into Her Sasuke = Kun act. Power development is different from personal character development.

There's no way that's character development because those are things that she already does. She has already expressed a wide range of attitudes towards many people.

 

[ShishaMastah420]

No.. No.. No.. No.. No.

 

[Honord Sage]

There's no way that's character development because those are things that she already does. She has already expressed a wide range of attitudes towards many people.

Not the right way,She has yet to stand up to Sasuke when He is wrong,Instead of punching Naruto She hasn't just calmly discuss Her objections to Naruto. Now thats character development when you don't do what you did in the past,but finds a new way to deal with Her troubles. Its call growing up.

 

[AaaaNinja]

Not the right way,She has yet to stand up to Sasuke when He is wrong,Instead of punching Naruto She hasn't just calmly discuss Her objections to Naruto. Now thats character development when you don't do what you did in the past,but finds a new way to deal with Her troubles. Its call growing up.

Are you saying she's never been assertive to Sasuke? She has been assertive to him, like the time she called him out for being a ***** in the Forest of Death. You're right about her making objections to Naruto calmly, it's either with tears or with yelling. The moment I illustrated before as an example of Character Development, where she objected to being treated as "a weak woman who can't compete with you" and wanted to fight alongside Naruto and Sasuke seems to count as one of those calm objections, because she did it without having to raise her voice like she usually does or with tears. So we both do agree that sort of event would be a new thing.

I cannot speak with much more authority on the subject because I'm not a Sakuratard and have a broader range of reasons for why I read the series. Although that might just be proof that when anything related to Sakura stands out to me in particular, it's because it has actual significance in my experience of the story.

 

[naeem]

depends on kishi.

 

[narutodude3]

cant stop laughing damn it! =D =D =D =D ...sakura sage mode.? Lol ..never! she's just using her chakra to heal the wounded!

 

[MinatoTheYellowFlash]

The other Sage Mode is the Sage Mode Sasuke has...

There's:

Toad Sage Mode
Dragon Sage Mode
Curse Seal Sage Mode

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Its already been proven, nothing more you say is relevant, idc if that's your favorite character.

 

[Joshutsu]

The other Sage Mode is the Sage Mode Sasuke has...

There's:

Toad Sage Mode
Dragon Sage Mode
Curse Seal Sage Mode

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Its already been proven, nothing more you say is relevant, idc if that's your favorite character.

How stubbourne can you get, orochimaru formulated that himself, it was not taught by an animal so you saying it is the 3rd one is kinda dumb.

Lets sort out your logic.

Sannin = toad snake slug

Kabbuto states = the place for toad snake and slug are equally famous

orochimaru = is the one to finally reveal slugs are from the shikkotsu forest which has been held in high regard as much as the other two, stated by who?

Therefore nothing is not irrelevant by what you presented because you showed nothing to disprove what i just said. If you had the slightest understanding of parallels in this series you would put aside preference, this topic is not about fans/non fans.

 

[Mistraal]

Why do people keep ignoring Kishi laws on any Sage mode? All Sage Modes use Natural energy and all want to be Sages need,repeat need large chakra reserves to control Natural energy. This law has not change,Sakura still has small chakra reserves. Tsunade who has large chakra reservers and is in Her mid 50 is not a Sage,so how can Sakura be one when Tsunade isn't? Go by Kishi rules on Sage Mode. Why do you think theirs so few Sages in the world? It's hard to be a Sage,they a few in numbers because they are elite people.

People aren't ignoring this. It's just that everyone but you is smart enough to realize this is TOAD sage mode and chakra pool isn't an issue for Sakura anymore.

 

[boshans]

People aren't ignoring this. It's just that everyone but you is smart enough to realize this is TOAD sage mode and chakra pool isn't an issue for Sakura anymore.

It has nothing to do with "toad" sage mode or not. Nature chakra is nature chakra, and you need massive amounts Of chakra to offset it. And chakra reserves are still an issue for sakura, byakugou is a seal that has chakra in it. When she pulls chakra from that seal, it doesn't go back into her circulatory chakra system, she has to use it right away. For sage mode, when you pull in nature chakra, it goes into your chakra circulatory system. Since her base chakra isn't any higher, she wouldn't be able to offset the nature chakra in her system.

 

[Mistraal]

It has nothing to do with "toad" sage mode or not. Nature chakra is nature chakra, and you need massive amounts Of chakra to offset it. And chakra reserves are still an issue for sakura, byakugou is a seal that has chakra in it. When she pulls chakra from that seal, it doesn't go back into her circulatory chakra system, she has to use it right away. For sage mode, when you pull in nature chakra, it goes into your chakra circulatory system. Since her base chakra isn't any higher, she wouldn't be able to offset the nature chakra in her system.

This is not my understanding of the seal. What would be the point then of someone like Tsunade with naturally high chakra reserves having the seal? I also thought chakra had to go into your circulatory system to be used? If not that would essentially make Sakura immune to a Byakugan user or chakra system shutdown because of the seal.

 

[AaaaNinja]

This is not my understanding of the seal. What would be the point then of someone like Tsunade with naturally high chakra reserves having the seal? I also thought chakra had to go into your circulatory system to be used? If not that would essentially make Sakura immune to a Byakugan user or chakra system shutdown because of the seal.

I think the point they were making was that with the seal, she can create chakra-intensive jutsus without having to deplete what she already has. This way she can maintain stamina.

They are saying that you cannot increase the size of your capacity -- let's say that it's sort of like a vessel -- by dumping more chakra into it. It's not like a balloon which can expand to hold more, it's like a bathtub. Fill the tub with water, and it will spill over if you keep filling it but ultimately it's only able to hold a certain amount. It's like in the early days when Naruto would fire up some chakra to do his jutsus and he would make so much of it some of it would spill over and he'd be surrounded by all this blue stuff. He was very wasteful.

Naruto was allowed to learn Sage Mode because the Nature Energy flows in at such a rate that for most people they would take in too much before learning to control it and that makes the training dangerous. Naruto has a larger "bathtub" that takes longer to overwhelm, so Fukasaku had enough time to react and beat him with his Nature Energy-purging stick during training. Kakashi was surprised that Sasuke had enough chakra to be able to make fireballs at his level during the bell test, and he was able to control his curse mark abilities to a degree that caught Orochimaru's attention.

With this explanation, that would mean that the seal could not be a means to open the way for Sage Mode to someone who is not able to achieve it previously. The vessel is still as vulnerable to being overwhelmed with Nature Energy as it was before.

The error I see in boshan's explanation is that it gets used immediately without entering the circulatory system. I think that it does in order for the person to be able to shape it. But I can see what they are trying to say and I hope I helped in explaining it.

 

[boshans]

I think the point they were making was that with the seal, she can create chakra-intensive jutsus without having to deplete what she already has. This way she can maintain stamina.

They are saying that you cannot increase the size of your capacity -- let's say that it's sort of like a vessel -- by dumping more chakra into it. It's not like a balloon, it's like a bathtub. Fill the tub with water, and it will spill over if you keep filling it but ultimately it's only able to hold a certain amount. It's like in the early days when Naruto would fire up some chakra to do his jutsus and he would make so much of it some of it would spill over and he'd be surrounded by all this blue stuff. He was very wasteful.

Naruto was allowed to learn Sage Mode because the Nature Energy flows in at such a rate that for most people they would take in too much before learning to control it and that makes the training dangerous. Naruto has a larger "bathtub." Kakashi was surprised that Sasuke had enough chakra to be able to make fireballs at his level during the bell test, and he was able to control his curse mark abilities to a degree that caught Orochimaru's attention.

With this explanation, that would mean that the seal could not be a means to open the way for Sage Mode to someone who is not able to achieve it previously. The vessel is still as vulnerable to being overwhelmed with Nature Energy as it was before.

The error I see in boshan's explanation is that it gets used immediately without entering the circulatory system. I think that it does in order for the person to be able to shape it. But I can see what they are trying to say and I hope I helped in explaining it.

Yes thank you that's what I meant. It enters the circulatory system for her to use, but still didn't increase her base amount, which is what nature chakra mixes with. Think of it this way, if somehow she could use the seal to use sage mode; with sage mode, you take in nature chakra from the world. You need to mold/control this nature chakra to balance with your own spiritual and physical chakra, so all the are in unison together. Now that is extremely hard as it is, but now add a fourth chakra, that is coming from her seal, she would need to mold and convert/control four different chakras together. Which is probably impossible. That's still only if she could somehow use the seal, but I dint think she can. The bathtub analogy was spot on. Oh and yes, the point of the seal is so you don't have to use your own chakra/stamina for big jutsus...and it is the only way katsuyu can heal other people also, katsuyu draws chakra from the seal. Yes katsuyu can heal with her own chakra, but not to the extent that she can with drawing from the seal.

 

[CrimsonReaper]

it may be a possibilty who knows

 

[UchihaKira]

It looks like the same handseal to me just lowered because shes talking and with a chat box half covering it. Im sure if it were meant to be something like her going into sage mode Kishi would at least make it fully visible.

 

[Honord Sage]

People aren't ignoring this. It's just that everyone but you is smart enough to realize this is TOAD sage mode and chakra pool isn't an issue for Sakura anymore.

All Manner of Sage Mode Use Natural Energy the law is constant in that, Natural Energy is Natural energy in Toad,Dragon or any other Sage Mode you need large chakra reserves to balance it and not be over whelm.

 

[Mistraal]

Yes thank you that's what I meant. It enters the circulatory system for her to use, but still didn't increase her base amount, which is what nature chakra mixes with. Think of it this way, if somehow she could use the seal to use sage mode; with sage mode, you take in nature chakra from the world. You need to mold/control this nature chakra to balance with your own spiritual and physical chakra, so all the are in unison together. Now that is extremely hard as it is, but now add a fourth chakra, that is coming from her seal, she would need to mold and convert/control four different chakras together. Which is probably impossible. That's still only if she could somehow use the seal, but I dint think she can. The bathtub analogy was spot on. Oh and yes, the point of the seal is so you don't have to use your own chakra/stamina for big jutsus...and it is the only way katsuyu can heal other people also, katsuyu draws chakra from the seal. Yes katsuyu can heal with her own chakra, but not to the extent that she can with drawing from the seal.

I don't know how one molds chakra for anything w/o it going into the system. I always thought it had to be "processed" persay hence handseals etc. If it doesn't go into her system, and thus into her "bathtub" then....

I dunno this is starting to smell like a plot hole. >.> I can't think of any manga chapters off the top of my head that deal w/this directly either.