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I can't believe this joke of a thread. Sakura has not surpassed Tsunade in any shape or form aside from Yin Seal efficiency and that is only due to age.
Sakura didn't surpass Tsunade, she matched her.
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Team7monaa
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I think she did well for a Sasuke fangirl from no Clan who was utterly weak and useless in Part I - to where she got to during the 4th Shinobi War.
Do I think she surpassed Tsunade? Hell no.
Not even the fan service compliments Kishi has tossed her way via fodder admirers and Hashirama's unexplicable comment about her strength surpassing Tsunade's (how the f*ck would he know? - he's been dead) will convince me otherwise.
I always recall the incident that has Shikamaru dying and Sakura's utter failure to do anything useful in the situation, even though she's supposedly th next Tsunade and one of the best med-nin in the Shinobi AllianceIt's Naruto's "feelings" via their shared Kyubi chakra that sustains Shikamaru, keeps him alive (not Sakura)... and then Tsunade were a mere *TAP* to Shika's forehead cures him (again, not Sakura), completely.
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If you argue that Sakura is equalto Tsunade (lets not pretend she's surpassed her, ne?) - then how do you explain that?
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Well Sakura travelled through dimension's the 10 tails Jinchuriki found chakra taxing:
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Yet she still had enough chakra to bash in Kaguya's head:
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Gave Naruto a full recovery:
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Last time I checked Tsunade had trouble healing the damn leaf village even with her lineage Sakura has higher reserves I hate how people use the same scans to try winning the argument :eww:
She didn't cry mate and she tanked the stab.
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Dockinabix
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Well it's logic that she have more chakra, since she fill it during 3 years and used it for the first time in battle while tsunade used it and empty her's several time.
But it doesn't prove that she surpass in mastery. She can use it, that an indeniable fact.
Did she master it better. No scan proved it by the word. Just assumptions made by non-neutral analysis.
The only person she surpased is shizune since she can't do the seal.
Oh and the travel thing is the only asspull she received. The creature claiming using all chakra available, the being having more chakra than anybody unless jinchuriki can produce in their life spantime, being said that travelling through dimensions cost her a sh** load of chakra. And the kid with a byakugou, representing a fraction of her chakra prod for 3 years, (it's a lot for standard ninja that's true but against a semi-god it's piss) made it several times.
Please. It's not logical.
One or two ok, but nearly all the dimensions ?
But it doesn't prove that she surpass in mastery. She can use it, that an indeniable fact.
Did she master it better. No scan proved it by the word. Just assumptions made by non-neutral analysis.
The only person she surpased is shizune since she can't do the seal.
Oh and the travel thing is the only asspull she received. The creature claiming using all chakra available, the being having more chakra than anybody unless jinchuriki can produce in their life spantime, being said that travelling through dimensions cost her a sh** load of chakra. And the kid with a byakugou, representing a fraction of her chakra prod for 3 years, (it's a lot for standard ninja that's true but against a semi-god it's piss) made it several times.
Please. It's not logical.
One or two ok, but nearly all the dimensions ?
KingHashirama
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Well Technically out of all the Sannin, Tsunade was the only one who skill wise was perfect with her arsenal, there was nothing for Sakura to improve on.
Sakura did not teach herself any new jutsu. Therefore she rose to the perfection Tsunade has with her arsenal by aquiring it.
Sakura matched Tsunade. Kishi is too bad a writer to have made it better than that.
That does not mean Sakura could not beat Tsunade in a fight, that is undetermined. That fight would most likely be a chakra battle.
Sakura did not teach herself any new jutsu. Therefore she rose to the perfection Tsunade has with her arsenal by aquiring it.
Sakura matched Tsunade. Kishi is too bad a writer to have made it better than that.
That does not mean Sakura could not beat Tsunade in a fight, that is undetermined. That fight would most likely be a chakra battle.
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People forget, that prime Tsunade had superior reactions compared to the Hokage Tsunade, and Sakura is pretty much that prime Tsunade. In fact better than that prime Tsunade.
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What is a "direct one".
After healing thousands of people , and etcc. And then healing epople with tsunade.. she outlasts tsunade in chakra... and then has enough chakra to match Naruto's clone.
Tch.
You can't compare Tsunade's chakra reserves (seal or not) to Sakura's at that point in the war - Sakura has a Kyubi chakra cloak, lord knows how much she's being propped up by him.
Tsunade did it all - without the Kyubi chakra bonus.
That and the examples given of her 'feats of strength' most notably in her fight against Madara, I (personally) find far more impressive and worthwhile than anything Sakura did later on.
... which was what? Attack fodder and need saving? Create a diversion and need saving? She even loses her importance as the med-nin of Team 7 when Naruto does what she can't... by regrowing Kakashi's eye.
Tsunade has her beat in teamwork and actual skill/capability/mentality for fighting in a battlefield.
You can't compare Tsunade's chakra reserves (seal or not) to Sakura's at that point in the war - Sakura has a Kyubi chakra cloak, lord knows how much she's being propped up by him.
Tsunade did it all - without the Kyubi chakra bonus.
That and the examples given of her 'feats of strength' most notably in her fight against Madara, I (personally) find far more impressive and worthwhile than anything Sakura did later on.
... which was what? Attack fodder and need saving? Create a diversion and need saving? She even loses her importance as the med-nin of Team 7 when Naruto does what she can't... by regrowing Kakashi's eye.
Tsunade has her beat in teamwork and actual skill/capability/mentality for fighting in a battlefield.
Dockinabix
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A reliable source in the NV, someone who knows what he/she is talking about admitting that she surpassed tsunade. Saying it "directly".
( for example a few years/month ago, some NS used to use sai comment about naruto after pain attack like a proof when we knows that he doesn't know a sh** about human relations, this is the example I don't want because he is not a reliable source)
Team7monaa
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Juubi chakra doesn't restore much chakra seeing Sakura had trouble healing Naruto even with the Kyubi cloak so your wrong.
Well Sakura has still clearly displayed much more battle feats like smashing Kaguya and obliteratingthe battlefield.
The need saving was to show Sakura could fight alongside her teammate's.The diversion was pretty good if it weren't for Limbo she went head on with Madara you got to give her that.
Your acting as if a medical ninja's job is to restore body parts because when Naruto extracts poison from someone or does CPR then please speak and wasn't Sakura the one healing Naruto & Sasuke at the end so no she still is the Medic of team 7 and will always be.
Yeah, maybe that's why she saved Naruto in the manga during the war, thanked him in 680, supported and gave her chakra to him in The Last...
Just because Sasuke was acting like a jerk and she felt this, it doesn't mean she only cares about him. This is an stupid excuse to bash her. And yeah, she matched Tsunade's abilities, denying this is biased hate.
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I am sorry but he is a fanfiction expert. You won't get anything from the manga from him.
Sakura's inability to heal Shikamaru has nothing to do with her chakra (reserves) but rather the fact she lacks the ability to outright heal him at all - unlike Tsunade, who did.
Obliterating the battlefield isn't a feat of strength to me, it's a waste of chakra.
Tsunade breaking Madara's Susanoo's sword in two, whilst being impaled by it - is a feat of strength. Being bisected and remaining so whilst she heals the other Kage, is a feat of strength.
Sakura's feats are less impressive (to me) because she's not doing anything Tsunade has already done before. She hasn't done anything no one else has done because her techniques are unoriginal.
Her super-strength, whilst impressive overall - lacks any real bite because that's Tsunade's trademark, and the women just looks better doing it.
Compare that with Naruto's rasengan, how he took the Yodaime's technique and improved it, finished it even. How he took senjutsu and surpassed Jiraiya's skill with it.
Then Sasuke's use of chidori, it's evolution and how he has Kirin. How he took the same techs Itachi had and pushed the boundaries, took it further and reached new feats.
Working together - infusing Amaterasu and Rasenshuriken to go even further...
Now Sakura, in comparsion, I find somewhat lacking.
She has Tsunade's techniques and she can do them (bravo) but she doesn't imrpove upon them - she doesn't better them. She doesn't take any technique and infuse it with another.
I've seen no real evidence that tells me that she is better than Tsunade. In fact, I've seen enough to counter her being Tsunade's equal.
Her "diversion" had all the skill and originality of a teaspoon. Naruto's been doing that since Part I; Human Meat-Shield Technique.
I only stated she had been surpassed - in terms of healing (specifically of Team 7) - by Naruto. His newfound ability at that point rendered her (completely) useless.
She had nothing else to offer.
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