Sakura and team 7.

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Yeah, the gap in strength was always massive between her and Naruto/Sasuke, but now it's just... wow.

I expect another asspull like Yin Seal or she's just gonna hide in Katsuya and watch the big boys fight.
 

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I have a feeling that Sasuke & naruto will help her out, remmber naruto gave the alliance the Bijuu cloaks and etc, and i think sasuke will use his speed & warp powers, to warp sakura to hit madara or something like that
 

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I don't see what kind of power-up Kishi can give Sakura that won't be complete and utter bull shit and destroy his credibility as an author. Hell, maybe Sakura really will get some kid of sage mode. That would be a way to surpass Tsunade and while it would be bull shit, it wouldn't be COMPLETE bull shit and ppl could probably get over that. As long as he doesn't give her some god level shit which she needs to be on par with Naruto and Sasuke.

I think she and Kakashi will be ff somewhere taking out black and spiral zetsus. That's the only thing that would make sense IMO.
 

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Why don't you sit back and enjoy the series and see just how useful Sakura can be when she is ready to fight.



Base Sakura is low on chakra, if you are out you die.

She still has chakra in her seal she has not used.

Naruto could give her some chakra if need be.

I like how sakura is useless in this fight but kakashi without his sharingan "might be able to do stuff".

Sakura has a better chance of surviving than kakashi right now.
 

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I like how sakura is useless in this fight but kakashi without his sharingan "might be able to do stuff".

Sakura has a better chance of surviving than kakashi right now.

I didn't even want to comment about that part because it was already evident that they are scared Sakura might actually get another chance to fight. To the point of desperation make a thread about why she cannot yet they think kakashi can still do something.
 

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Kakashi and Sakura are Team 7 Cheerleaders now for Naruto and Sasuke.
 

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we know that sasuke and naruto can do a lot of stuff but ure forgetting that naruto and sasuke are not edo tensei and those big flashy moves have gotta be using up a lot of chakra ... naruto cant just focus on healing everyone .. so sakura is here for that job ! Not a sakura fan but I felt that what u said is wrong ! I think she's done very well to become this strong ! naruto had kyuubi and sasuke had sharingan from the start ! if they didn't had that , I think sakura would have been their equal but shes just an ordinary girl and is still this good !

Naruto is an Uzumaki and thus has naturally high chakra reserves. To top it off, he has Yin Kurama, and some chakra from all the other bijuu. He isn't running out of chakra any time soon.

As for Sasuke... Meh. He'll have to be careful when using his new eye.
 

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I didn't even want to comment about that part because it was already evident that they are scared Sakura might actually get another chance to fight. To the point of desperation make a thread about why she cannot yet they think kakashi can still do something.

Kakashi seems to at least recognise his limits, and acts accordingly so he won't get in the way (stood on the sidelines willingly against Madara, choosing instead to fight Black Zetsu, choosing to after Obito with Kamui rather than fighting the Juubi, etc).

It's sad that even in his current exhausted state, and with a massive downgrade, he could still be more useful as another brain for strategies and tactics, and an experienced and seasoned shinobi.
 

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Kakashi seems to at least recognise his limits, and acts accordingly so he won't get in the way (stood on the sidelines willingly against Madara, choosing instead to fight Black Zetsu, choosing to after Obito with Kamui rather than fighting the Juubi, etc).

It's sad that even in his current exhausted state, and with a massive downgrade, he could still be more useful as another brain for strategies and tactics, and an experienced and seasoned shinobi.

You do know that he and obito are a subplot right? There is more to their interaction that choice it's a part of the story and team minato dynamic.

if you are trying to imply he stayed away from madara because he was being smart i'm confused. Especially since he thought Obito was Madara before they broke the mask.

It's not sad actually, your actually proving a point that they all will be useful in this fight as team 7. team 7. team 7. team 7. Let it stick.
 

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the best kunoichi in the manga with no kkg or special family heritage. haters gonna hate big time!

With this new mention of "teamwork" and kakashi reminding them of their training with the bells, i think this is going to be VERY interesting. Not like big jutsu here, and big jutsu there, like it has been lately. Hopefully the old-fashion ninja way is coming back where you actually have to THINK and use STRATEGY! I'm as anxious as ever to see what Sakura and Kakashi can do in the upcoming Team 7 fight.

Naruto should restore her chakra + some, so Sakura can summon 100% Katsyuu *-*

Tsunade has no kekkei genkai. Konan had no kekkei genkai.

Arguably, Kaguya didn't have a kekkei genkai, but it's possible that she had the Byakugan before eating the Chakra Fruit.
 

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You do know that he and obito are a subplot right? There is more to their interaction that choice it's a part of the story and team minato dynamic.

if you are trying to imply he stayed away from madara because he was being smart i'm confused. Especially since he thought Obito was Madara before they broke the mask.

It's not sad actually, your actually proving a point that they all will be useful in this fight as team 7. team 7. team 7. team 7. Let it stick.

I'm not sure how it being a subplot is relevant. Kakashi willingly entered Kamui with Obito and left Naruto and the rest of the Shinobi Alliance to take care of the Juubi.

Kakashi chose to stand on the sidelines because he recognised that Guy vs Madara was out of his league. He didn't interfere with Sasuke and Naruto either, when they showed up to face Madara.

Kakashi has shown that he recognises when his input is necessary and useful, and when he should take a backseat either because he can better serve some other purpose, or because he has nothing to contribute.

Sakura, on the other hand, has a penchant for being a liability. Even when they were Team 7.
 

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I'm not sure how it being a subplot is relevant. Kakashi willingly entered Kamui with Obito and left Naruto and the rest of the Shinobi Alliance to take care of the Juubi.

Kakashi chose to stand on the sidelines because he recognised that Guy vs Madara was out of his league. He didn't interfere with Sasuke and Naruto either, when they showed up to face Madara.

Kakashi has shown that he recognises when his input is necessary and useful, and when he should take a backseat either because he can better serve some other purpose, or because he has nothing to contribute.

Sakura, on the other hand, has a penchant for being a liability. Even when they were Team 7.

That's the thing. His sub plot involving team minato and between him obito and rin. Subplots are all over this manga, it allows spotlight to be given to other characters and if you cannot understand why kakashi and obito had their own fight then i can't really make you understand the manga.

Kakashi was pooped when Gai vs Madara happened. And he still helped Gai fight Madara with kamui. Kakashi could barely keep up with 8 gates as well, there's no way he would have been able to help any other way.


I wish you decided if Sakura was going to be a liability or not but you don't. What will you do if kishimoto does make her do something ? Melt down?

He already wrote with his two hands and drew the last panel. It's happening.
 

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That's the thing. His sub plot involving team minato and between him obito and rin. Subplots are all over this manga, it allows spotlight to be given to other characters and if you cannot understand why kakashi and obito had their own fight then i can't really make you understand the manga.

Kakashi was pooped when Gai vs Madara happened. And he still helped Gai fight Madara with kamui. Kakashi could barely keep up with 8 gates as well, there's no way he would have been able to help any other way.


I wish you decided if Sakura was going to be a liability or not but you don't. What will you do if kishimoto does make her do something ? Melt down?

He already wrote with his two hands and drew the last panel. It's happening.

Er, what? My whole point is that Kakashi served a purpose in the Team Minato subplot. He did something relevant and was useful in advancing the plot and furthering the interests of the Shinobi Alliance in the war through his actions.

Sakura's main feat in the war has been to heal useless fodder (and I hate saying it like that, because it's degrading to the other shinobi in the war, but it's the truth) and to beat up Juubi clones that honestly wouldn't have posed a problem to any of the other characters that were there as well.

I understand the manga, and hence. I understand that Kishi has massively dropped the ball with Sakura, and as a result has left Naruto with no female lead character. Anything she does now (a power-up) would be an asspull. One could maybe justify Hashirama giving her whatever jutsu he gave Sasuke as the student of his granddaughter, but she didn't even get that.

She is irrelevant to the main plot, and has been for the whole series. Events move without her. She wasn't even involved in the Sasuke retrieval arc, and that was some serious Team 7 and Konoha 11 stuff.

EDIT: I do decide on whether or not she was a liability. Like you said, Kishi has already written it, Part I finished long ago, and with it the old Team 7. We can thus assess her contribution to the team. She was a liability. Off of the top of my head, her main contribution was protecting Sasuke during the Chuunin exams. And she did that by cutting her hair off.
 
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Er, what? My whole point is that Kakashi served a purpose in the Team Minato subplot. He did something relevant and was useful in advancing the plot and furthering the interests of the Shinobi Alliance in the war through his actions.

Sakura's main feat in the war has been to heal useless fodder (and I hate saying it like that, because it's degrading to the other shinobi in the war, but it's the truth) and to beat up Juubi clones that honestly wouldn't have posed a problem to any of the other characters that were there as well.

I understand the manga, and hence. I understand that Kishi has massively dropped the ball with Sakura, and as a result has left Naruto with no female lead character. Anything she does now (a power-up) would be an asspull. One could maybe justify Hashirama giving her whatever jutsu he gave Sasuke as the student of his granddaughter, but she didn't even get that.

She is irrelevant to the main plot, and has been for the whole series. Events move without her. She wasn't even involved in the Sasuke retrieval arc, and that was some serious Team 7 and Konoha 11 stuff.

EDIT: I do decide on whether or not she was a liability. Like you said, Kishi has already written it, Part I finished long ago, and with it the old Team 7. We can thus assess her contribution to the team. She was a liability. Off of the top of my head, her main contribution was protecting Sasuke during the Chuunin exams. And she did that by cutting her hair off.

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Kakashi seems to at least recognise his limits, and acts accordingly so he won't get in the way (stood on the sidelines willingly against Madara, choosing instead to fight Black Zetsu, choosing to after Obito with Kamui rather than fighting the Juubi, etc).

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Don't change your words. You initially replied to me saying kakashi chose not to fight madara or the juubi and black zetsuand obito instead so he would not get in the way. Don't change that now. I already said there is a reason (subplot) why kakashi was so heavily involved with obito at the time. Don't try to switch on me now talking about relevance to subplot now i already said that. Everything in the manga advances plot by the way.

The fact you think Sakura's only useful moment in the war was to heal the 'fodder' alliance already destroys your attempt to make me believe you know the manga. Funny how you call the SA fodder and then most of you complain it's not a war, to be realistic you need people to make a war and she sustained the entire alliance very impressive, more impressive than saving just the 4 important characters that are around.

Your 3rd paragraph is wrong as well, Sakura is still in the spotlight and still the lead female. It's not an asspull just because it upsets you. It was foreshadowed several times. Anyone who knew the first thing about parallelism would have expected it too.

She is irrelevant yet she is still involved in it up to chapter 675? Yeah. Just keep reading onward, i'm sure you will see soon enough.
 
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Don't change your words. You initially replied to me saying kakashi chose not to fight madara or the juubi and black zetsuand obito instead so he would not get in the way. Don't change that now. I already said there is a reason (subplot) why kakashi was so heavily involved with obito at the time.

The fact you think Sakura's only good moment in the war was to heal the 'fodder' alliance already destroys your attempt to make me believe you know the manga.

Your 3rd paragraph is wrong as well, Sakura is still in the spotlight and still the lead female. It's not an asspull just because it upsets you. It was foreshadowed several times.

She is irrelevant yet she is still involved in it up to chapter 675? Yeah. Just keep reading onward, i'm sure you will see soon enough.

Er, you realise that those two are saying the same thing, right? Just because there's a subplot doesn't mean that Kakashi didn't make a choice. He could have chosen to do n number of other things. There was a subplot, so Kishi had Kakashi say that he would be more useful elsewhere, and had him leave.

Character-wise, he chose to leave.

Using your logic, the only reason Sakura is on the battlefield is the Team 7 subplot. She serves no other purpose.

I invite you to give me a better feat. If you can, I'll gladly retract that.

Tenten has been involved for over 600 chapters. She is not relevant.
 

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Er, you realise that those two are saying the same thing, right? Just because there's a subplot doesn't mean that Kakashi didn't make a choice. He could have chosen to do n number of other things. There was a subplot, so Kishi had Kakashi say that he would be more useful elsewhere, and had him leave.

Character-wise, he chose to leave.

Using your logic, the only reason Sakura is on the battlefield is the Team 7 subplot. She serves no other purpose.

I invite you to give me a better feat. If you can, I'll gladly retract that.

Tenten has been involved for over 600 chapters. She is not relevant.

It's not saying the same thing the first time you were clearly trying to say kakashi knew his place so to speak. Kakashi made a 'choice' can be used ever so loosely. Kakashi was in leagues to fight madara and juubi at the time and he never felt that it was best to stay out. He was fighting the juubi and madara and obito with naruto before the alliance showed up. After the alliance came he fought again and even tried to kamui the gedo.

He chose to leave because he had things to settle with obito. That's an undeniable fact, and yes using my logic Sakura is tied into the story on team 7 subplot. Duh. Oh also on sannin subplot.

Naruto and Sasuke are a part of a bigger plot. Which is why they most of the time in situations like previously they are both highlighted. Because they have subplot of the elder and younger brother. And it is bigger than team 7 and sannin subplot. They all come in when the author feels to.

In the war:

Sakura caught, gathered and relayed the critical intel needed to figure out the mystery behind the murders telling the entire alliance that zetsu was transforming into people and how he was doing it.

Sakura healed kakashi.

Sakura restored naruto's chakra and healed him when he was down and out.

Sakura achieved her seal and proceeded to do remote healing on the alliance which in their world where every ninja is important it is impressive.

Sakura used katsuya as a foothold with Tsunade to provide a chakra and healing base for the alliance again.

Sakura kept Naruto's body from becoming oxygen deprived and alive for Obito to even be able to give Naruto the jinchuriki back and thus saving the main characters life.

TenTen has not been involved the way Sakura has. And tenten is attached to a weaker subplot you cannot compare. She is relevant to that plot she is a part of.

I'm not going to try to convince you of anything anymore though, you can't stop anything kishi wans to do. So however you deal with whatever he does is your business, if you think it's an asspull if she powers up that is your business as well. I will enjoy it and kishi will enjoy it and that's what matters most. Have a good night though.(no sarcasm)
 
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Pull your heads out of your asses.

Sakura can't fight Madz with punches.

Either she gets an awkward kaguya asspull or she just supports them somehow.
 

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Pull your heads out of your asses.

Sakura can't fight Madz with punches.

Either she gets an awkward kaguya asspull or she just supports them somehow.

Hence why they said teamwork at the end of the chapter. They intend to support each other. Herp derp.
 
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