Sakura and Hinata vs Kiba and Shino

[Power Bottom]

Are you implying Katsuyu is bijuu level here?

Shino can plant bugs inside Katsuyu, summoning them after having spread them all over her body, and they will rapidly eat through her body before she is capable of doing anything. Even if she were to split apart, the insects would still be inside her, eating her.

Okay, suppose for arguments sake, I agree she can fend the insects off by punching the ground. What if they are fighting in a desert, where she is incapable of doing that, would she still be able to avoid his Insect Sphere technique ?

No, Obito was caught, couldn't move, and had to resort to a S/T ninjutsu in order to escape it.

Yes she's biju level in terms of size. Considering Gambunta was able to hold down the fox and was roughly it size. Katsuyu and Gambunta are the same size

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Shino never showed that ability. Scans? Like I said katsuyu isn't a game breaker or even needed tbh. If they were in the desert it would be the same. Sand will be blasted out of the ground and bury the bugs.

He was caught because he didn't take them serious for the last time. Yes it's fast but it would never catch him if he was serious

 

[Made in Heaven]

Shino never showed that ability. Scans? Like I said katsuyu isn't a game breaker or even needed tbh. If they were in the desert it would be the same. Sand will be blasted out of the ground and bury the bugs.

He was caught because he didn't take them serious for the last time. Yes it's fast but it would never catch him if he was serious

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Sand has different properties than earth, so no, the same would not happen. And yeah, those bugs aren't stupid, they're shown and said to be rather agile. They'd have to be considering they're used in battle and tracking. I mean really, sand beating those bugs is just ... laughable tbh.

He may not have been serious, but that doesn't matter to my main argument. When he WAS caught, he was unable to move, and due to this, had to resort to Kamui to escape. Sakura's not even as fast as him, not could he really keep track of all those bugs. How exactly would Sakura get out of that if she can't move ?

 

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Sand has different properties than earth, so no, the same would not happen. And yeah, those bugs aren't stupid, they're shown and said to be rather agile. They'd have to be considering they're used in battle and tracking. I mean really, sand beating those bugs is just ... laughable tbh.

He may not have been serious, but that doesn't matter to my main argument. When he WAS caught, he was unable to move, and due to this, had to resort to Kamui to escape. Sakura's not even as fast as him, not could he really keep track of all those bugs. How exactly would Sakura get out of that if she can't move ?

He placed one bug and it took him to get close and let the bug go in and the clone didn't even attack him, it just stood there like a statue.

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what's stopping katsuyu from detaching that part of her body. I guess shino can solo a biju by your logic. These bugs were never shown to be able to eat a biju sized object.

The force of the punch will cause huge amounts of sand to be uplifted from the ground. Properties don't mean anything. If anything the properties are in sakura favor since the sand isn't compact like dirt it can be blasted easier.

Yea these bugs are getting blasted away by sand and wind.

First off sakura just needs to punch him and his bugs will be useless. They receive messages from him to attack. Sakura blitzes him easily and he dies. Shino has no feats that show he will survive in a taijustu match.

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Ground punch is enough to end this lame fight .

 

[Char Aznable]

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Ground punch is enough to end this lame fight .

When have ground punches ever ended a fight?

Tsunade punched the ground and Kabuto and Oro still stood.

Sakura punched the ground and Kakashi was fine.

Against shinobi, that move have no victories.

 

[Power Bottom]

When have ground punches ever ended a fight?

Tsunade punched the ground and Kabuto and Oro still stood.

Sakura punched the ground and Kakashi was fine.

Against shinobi, that move have no victories.

Comparing Tsunade's kick to Sakura punch is like comparing a pond to a lake.

Sakura punch devasted 50 meters of land and huge boulders were blasted from the ground. The juubi clones who were in the radius were screaming to death. Tsunade kick comes no where close.

The bell test: Sakura was trying to find kakashi not hurt him

 

[Made in Heaven]

He placed one bug and it took him to get close and let the bug go in and the clone didn't even attack him, it just stood there like a statue.

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what's stopping katsuyu from detaching that part of her body. I guess shino can solo a biju by your logic. These bugs were never shown to be able to eat a biju sized object.

The force of the punch will cause huge amounts of sand to be uplifted from the ground. Properties don't mean anything. If anything the properties are in sakura favor since the sand isn't compact like dirt it can be blasted easier.

Yea these bugs are getting blasted away by sand and wind.

First off sakura just needs to punch him and his bugs will be useless. They receive messages from him to attack. Sakura blitzes him easily and he dies. Shino has no feats that show he will survive in a taijustu match.

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What's your point? Katsuyu doesn't even have any arms to attack Shino with. She dies as soon as Shino inserts the insects into her.

Doesn't matter if she detaches that part, that part of her will still get eaten . And yeah, seeing as how fast those bugs were able to chew through the Juubi clones' body, Katsuyu would not be able to detach her infected body parts fast enough.

That's assuming the insects don't evade every inch of her body which is pretty much what they do. So no, she's not surviving that.

Katsuyu isn't a bijuu Lol

"Properties don't mean anything" damn XD.

I know, that's why SHino could just keep his distance from her and attack from afar.

Sakura reacted to something [in an unstable form] coming from 100 m away? Not impressive.

Still haven't gotten an answer as to how she escapes Insect Sphere

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Ground punch is enough to end this lame fight .

Ground punch doesn't even have perfect results when used on mindless Juubi clones, and you belive it would work on Shinobi ?

 

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What's your point? Katsuyu doesn't even have any arms to attack Shino with. She dies as soon as Shino inserts the insects into her.

Doesn't matter if she detaches that part, that part of her will still get eaten . And yeah, seeing as how fast those bugs were able to chew through the Juubi clones' body, Katsuyu would not be able to detach her infected body parts fast enough.

That's assuming the insects don't evade every inch of her body which is pretty much what they do. So no, she's not surviving that.

Katsuyu isn't a bijuu Lol

"Properties don't mean anything" damn XD.

I know, that's why SHino could just keep his distance from her and attack from afar.

Sakura reacted to something [in an unstable form] coming from 100 m away? Not impressive.

Still haven't gotten an answer as to how she escapes Insect Sphere



Ground punch doesn't even have perfect results when used on mindless Juubi clones, and you belive it would work on Shinobi ?

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Sakura reacted to a fast unstable Juubi she side-steps Kiba and strikes his head if he comes within range punching the ground would kill him your bringing the Juubi clones even though they were constantly being produced.After Sakura's strike more were coming none survived from the same strike.
Hinata won't beat either though.

 

[Made in Heaven]

Sakura reacted to a fast unstable Juubi

Not impressive, given that the whole alliance was doing the exact same thing to a stable version.

she side-steps Kiba and strikes his head if he comes within range

Impossible, given that Kiba would be spinning at an extremely fast rate in such a case, so her pinpointing and hitting his head is not happening, not to mention she'd get her arm ripped off if he tried to punch him in his Rotating forms, given that that form of his is meant to shred through flesh, as it did to the Juubi clones like butter.

punching the ground would kill him

No it won't. Punching the ground has never been a guaranteed one shot, as it didn't kill all the Juubu clones. A human who can use chakra to keep themselves balanced, or jump high up to avoid the epic would have an even better chance at surviving it.

your bringing the Juubi clones even though they were constantly being produced.After Sakura's strike more were coming none survived from the same strike.

Not true. They were produced en masse and stopped, and yet at least three of them survived. Keep in mind these are brainless monsters we're talking about, Not SHinobi who could jump or use chakra to help themselves from getting hurt.

Hinata won't beat either though.

I wasn't arguing about whether or not Hinata could beat Shino andKiba. Or did you just bring Hinata into this to make yourself feel better ?

 

[Power Bottom]

What's your point? Katsuyu doesn't even have any arms to attack Shino with. She dies as soon as Shino inserts the insects into her.

Doesn't matter if she detaches that part, that part of her will still get eaten . And yeah, seeing as how fast those bugs were able to chew through the Juubi clones' body, Katsuyu would not be able to detach her infected body parts fast enough.

That's assuming the insects don't evade every inch of her body which is pretty much what they do. So no, she's not surviving that.

Katsuyu isn't a bijuu Lol

"Properties don't mean anything" damn XD.

I know, that's why SHino could just keep his distance from her and attack from afar.

Sakura reacted to something [in an unstable form] coming from 100 m away? Not impressive.

Still haven't gotten an answer as to how she escapes Insect Sphere



Ground punch doesn't even have perfect results when used on mindless Juubi clones, and you belive it would work on Shinobi ?

The insects eat chakra so a biju is no different

Coming 100m away maybe not. It came out of nowhere when it attacked her. Naruto stated it was too fast when it was coming at him meters away so it's still a speed feat

How she escapes it? By dodging it or rushing towards shino and killing him right off the bat

Shino dosen't have speed feats to even compete with her and his taijustu sucks. He gets KO instantly

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Sakura ain't soloing shit. Shino's bugs eat Katsuyu alive.

 

[Tangerine]

He placed one bug and it took him to get close and let the bug go in and the clone didn't even attack him, it just stood there like a statue.

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Actually, in the second panel of the scan you showed, the clone attempts to punch Shino and he rushes forward to avoid it.

what's stopping katsuyu from detaching that part of her body. I guess shino can solo a biju by your logic. These bugs were never shown to be able to eat a biju sized object.

I'm not sure what "by your logic" is supposed to mean here. They just said that Shino can plant giant bugs on Katsuyu and rapid eat her from inside. Are you implying that Katsuyu is the same as a Biju? It was never depicted that the Kidaichu have a size limit to what they can eat. Perhaps the bigger the target the more insects need to infest it.

First off sakura just needs to punch him and his bugs will be useless. They receive messages from him to attack. Sakura blitzes him easily and he dies. Shino has no feats that show he will survive in a taijustu match.

This suggests that the bugs stop attacking as soon as their host is knocked out/killed. Which has never been shown to happen. If they attack by receiving a message then incapacitating/killing Shino shouldn't make he bugs useless if that order is "kill her at all costs". Also, if she attempts to punch him and he turns out to be a Bug Clone, she just screwed her chances and the dispelling insects can easily swarm her.
Shino's lack of Taijutsu feats isn't going to be an issue here. Sakura can blitz Shino himself, but she is not blitzing past thousands of insects swarming all around her.

How she escapes it? By dodging it or rushing towards shino and killing him right off the bat

You're arguing that she simply just dodges or rushes to avoid Insect Sphere? An attack that surrounds the opponent from all sides and boxes them into a globe? Where even if she avoids them, they'll just pursue her. If she rushes towards Shino, she may have to change her attack just to avoid them.

Shino dosen't have speed feats to even compete with her and his taijustu sucks. He gets KO instantly

Which is why he won't be resorting to using Taijutsu. I don't see Sakura having an easy time avoiding Insect Globe and if she does manage to then a) the bugs will pursue her and b) she's screwed if she punches Shino and he turns out to be an Insect Clone.
Also, referring back to the Giant Bug Summon scan you posted, when Shino dodged the clone's punch, there's a considerable distance from the clone's fist to where Shino is standing. Shino's other speed feat was dodging a barrage of daggers at point blank range. I'm not sure if these examples of speed feats can compare with Sakura, but they a least show he can move quickly if needed.

 

[Made in Heaven]

The insects eat chakra so a biju is no different

Coming 100m away maybe not. It came out of nowhere when it attacked her. Naruto stated it was too fast when it was coming at him meters away so it's still a speed feat

How she escapes it? By dodging it or rushing towards shino and killing him right off the bat

Shino dosen't have speed feats to even compete with her and his taijustu sucks. He gets KO instantly

Bijuu chakra isn't the same as human or animal chakra.

No, it was a great distance away, considering the perspective given . So reacting to something from far away isn't impressive. Though I will admit her speed is good in that scene.

I agree that Sakura could beat shino if he's close, but I was saying all this with the assumption that they are 30 m away from each other. In such a case, SHino can easily keep his distance, constantly running and hiding, while his insects do the work for him.

Well, he was able to dodge the attack of a Juubi clone, whil Sakura herself needed saving from them , so ...

 

[AmaniPaz]

Team 2 has like 0 feats soo....

 

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Not impressive, given that the whole alliance was doing the exact same thing to a stable version.

Unstable basically means more crazy and unpredictable Naruto even stated that is was to fast and it would swallow you up in seconds.

Impossible, given that Kiba would be spinning at an extremely fast rate in such a case, so her pinpointing and hitting his head is not happening, not to mention she'd get her arm ripped off if he tried to punch him in his Rotating forms, given that that form of his is meant to shred through flesh, as it did to the Juubi clones like butter.

Kiba won't fool Sakura with his attacks as we know Sakura was trained in analysing and has a 4 for Intelligence:

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She fools Kiba easily seeing his Taijutsu like her's is linear meaning finding a weak spot isn't hard.

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No it won't. Punching the ground has never been a guaranteed one shot, as it didn't kill all the Juubu clones. A human who can use chakra to keep themselves balanced, or jump high up to avoid the epic would have an even better chance at surviving it.

It killed all the Juubi clones it's just that they were being produced rapidly after Sakura destroyed dozens of them.
If Kiba did jump high how would react react to the falling debris and flying rocks.

Not true. They were produced en masse and stopped, and yet at least three of them survived. Keep in mind these are brainless monsters we're talking about, Not SHinobi who could jump or use chakra to help themselves from getting hurt.

I'm telling you they are being reproduced after they are wiped out .

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They are reproducing and increasing in size that's why the one that was behind Sakura was so large.

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I wasn't arguing about whether or not Hinata could beat Shino andKiba. Or did you just bring Hinata into this to make yourself feel better ?

Just stating.

 

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He placed one bug and it took him to get close and let the bug go in and the clone didn't even attack him, it just stood there like a statue.

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what's stopping katsuyu from detaching that part of her body. I guess shino can solo a biju by your logic. These bugs were never shown to be able to eat a biju sized object.

The force of the punch will cause huge amounts of sand to be uplifted from the ground. Properties don't mean anything. If anything the properties are in sakura favor since the sand isn't compact like dirt it can be blasted easier.

Yea these bugs are getting blasted away by sand and wind.

First off sakura just needs to punch him and his bugs will be useless. They receive messages from him to attack. Sakura blitzes him easily and he dies. Shino has no feats that show he will survive in a taijustu match.

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Sand is soft, and is used in things like sandbags and punching bags in order to absorb the impact of blunt force. so the properties are against Sakura. The Juubi spawns were screaming cuz they were falling, not because the actual attack hurt

 

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Revived old thread.It can cause u an infraction Lol

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[BenjerminGaye]

Lol. Thread revived. Shino ' s bugs still eat Katsuyu alive.

 

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