[Theory] Sage of the Six Path - Ancestor of the Uzumaki and Senju

[Mr Hiru]

First of all, I shall thanks every theory about the Sage of the Six Path put until now in the base. I'm pretty interested in the scheme, so I decided to dig a bit and see if there are other possibilities too.

I saw some (well, a lot of) theories that points towards the Sage being an Uzumaki, and other that points towards the Sage being related to the Hyuugas. After thinking a bit, I came to the conclusion that the Sage could perfectly be an ancestor of the Uzumaki. Let me explain, with an hypothesis:


I'll assume that the Uzumaki Clan is the ancestor clan of the Uchihas but not of the Senjus. That said, I believe the Uzumaki Clan origin relies on the elder son of the SO6P, and the Senju Clan origin relies on the younger son of the SO6P.

I'll assume that the most related descendents of the Uzumaki Clan are the Uchiha, and the most related decendents of the Senju Clan are the Hyuugas.

16 years before part 2, there was plenty people of the Uchiha and the Hyuuga Clans. This means there were other before that were losing purity of blood through generations. For example, Senju Hashirama married Uzumaki Mito, and the bloodline of both clans started to lose their purity. With the flow of time, both clan started to dissappear. Just some time after, the Uchiha massacre had as a consequence the extinction of itself, and there is only one member alive: Sasuke.

This stated, I would have to assume that the Uzumaki Clan originally had a Doujutsu of its own... "The Elder Son's Eyes", that is, the Uzumaki Clan Symbol. But this ocular jutsu dissappear as consequence of the loss of bloodline purity. It was derivated into what we know today as Sharigan (more close to what is "mind") and Byakugan (more close to what is "body").

With this, conclusions could be made...

- If an Uzumaki married a Hyuuga/Senju, their descendents could inherit the Rinnegan (mid/high probabilities). This could make sense, Nagato being an Uzumaki was pretty good handling the Rinnegan. Being an Uzumaki gave him the adventage of the lifespan.
- If an Uchiha married a Hyuuga/Senju, their descendents could inherit the Rinnegan (low/mid probabilities). This could make sense too. Madara was able to awake the Rinnegan after getting Senju DNA past his lifespan, but still has not been able to use it as good as did Nagato.
- If a Senju married a Hyuuga, their descendents could inherit the Younger Son's Body with tremendous yang powers (low probabilities). Makes sense too, everyone here knows about the Senju's body resistance and the Hyuugas abilities in taijutsu and chakra handling.
- If an Uzumaki married an Uchiha, their descendents could inherit the Elder Son's Eyes and tremendous yin powers (low probabilities). This can't be proven yet, because the case has not been displayed. As far as I know, the Uchihas had great ninjutsu/genjutsu manipulation and the Uzumaki had great control over sealing techniques, that I believe, are yin powers too.
- The whole hypothesis makes sense when it comes to character abilities too. Madara/Obito are not as good as Nagato using the Rinnegan, because Nagato is closer to the Sage of the Six path than the Uchiha Clan, talking in hierachy terms.

 

[Hypemaster]

Imagine if Kishi revealed the the sage was a haruno, oh how much destruction on the base there will be on that day

 

[Nous]

Nice theory! ^_^

 

[Mypower]

FOr the last freaking time the Sage didn't come from any of those freaking clans.

 

[Mr Hiru]

FOr the last freaking time the Sage didn't come from any of those freaking clans.

Of course my friend. That's what I told... I said these clans came from the sage, not the other way.

 

[Fodder#3]

What people tend to miss out is the bigger picture. Do you have any clue why the SO6P is even in the manga? It's to show the difference(s) and contrast(s) in the manga. Also the SO6P is also an symbolic character; to show that people that SO6P is almost GODLIKE. There is a high possibility(99%) that SO6P will not even be revealed in the manga. The purpose of SO6P is to guide the shonobi to follow a path of good(love); hence the reason why he choose his smaller child. Also he is in the manga to show how hatred began. It really does not matter if SO6P was uchia, senju, uzamaki, or black. If you really care of what a SO6P; then start of by the name: Sage Of 6 paths. Then question your self "what are the 6 paths?". I mean the only person that is parrelled with SO6P is Naruto.

 

[ShadowCloneJutsu]

This makes sense to me. I just don't like the idea that the sage is related to the Hyuuga clan very much.. and it seems like everyone's jumped on that bandwagon. Nice to see your opinion, awesome work!

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

I doubt if Pre-Ninjutsu Clans didn't exist in Rikūdo's era, Jiraiya stated that the Sage's time was a period of endless war, and knowing Ancient Japanese history, all wars (save for WW2) have always been engaged by factions and clans, Rikūdo definitely belong to one of these Pre-Ninjutsu Clans who were the progenitors of the modern day formal Shinobi Clans, Rikūdo's heritage is most definitely Uzumaki.

 

[Mr Hiru]

I doubt if Pre-Ninjutsu Clans didn't exist in Rikūdo's era, Jiraiya stated that the Sage's time was a period of endless war, and knowing Ancient Japanese history, all wars (save for WW2) have always been engaged by factions and clans, Rikūdo definitely belong to one of these Pre-Ninjutsu Clans who were the progenitors of the modern day formal Shinobi Clans, Rikūdo's heritage is most definitely Uzumaki.

That's the thing... what I said is a possibility, an alternative to your theory.

Even so, I didn't say Clans didn't exist before the Rikudou Era. I only said that it could be possible that the Uzumaki Clan came from the Rikudou. So I think my theory is still plausible.

 

[NarutoSamaKama]

FOr the last freaking time the Sage didn't come from any of those freaking clans.

The sage was the father of two sons who founded those clans

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

The sage was the father of two sons who founded those clans

Yes the Uzumaki father: Rikūdo Sennin

 

[Mr Hiru]

Yes the Uzumaki father: Rikūdo Sennin

...Uzumaki's Ancestor. Remember this topic theorizes about this possibility. But overall, I find your theory very complete.

 

[Mr Hiru]

My theory can't remain in its current state. All Shinobi who put a hand over the God Tree (Yggdrasil? XD) adquired the existence of chakra.

The Sage of Six Paths was born with it thanks to his mother who ate the forbidden fruit.

That sole fruit appears once in a millenium, and as Ootsutsuki Kaguya (SO6P's mother) ate it, the Sage of Six Paths is the only person (apart from her) able to hold chakra.

This has an important meaning... this means that all shinobi able to use chakra are descendants of the Sage/Sage's mother, and this proves directly that the Sage was not an Uzumaki, but this is the irrefulable proof that the Sage was the Ancestor of the Uzumaki and the Senju (and moreover, all Clans out there).

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This has a timeline importance too. Taking in mind how Uchiha/Senju Clan was preserved until 17 years ago, it's pretty safe to assume that this event took place one millenium ago as much (so we could expect a new fruit appearing in the tree).

...so I feel kind of shame. My theory was wrong in many ways. Even if the conclusion was right, the statements and assumptions were way very wrong.