Sage of Six Paths: No ninjutsu

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With the additional information of this recent chapter I think an interesting point comes up. Is it possible the Sage couldn't use ninjutsu?

I got the sense that all chakra on Earth originated from the Juubi and has since trickled down to everyone else. Of course, the Sage is known as the father of ninjutsu, but it seems to me that while he may have created all ninjutsu, the Juubi provided the necassary tool, chakra. If all chakra originated from the Juubi how could the Sage have had ninjutsu before they fought? There were no ninjas until the sage's son because there was no chakra for ninjutsu. That is why it was not until after the Sage takes down the Juubi, does the thought of being a ninja surface.

So if the Sage couldn't use ninjutsu how could he beat the Juubi? Well two ways...

1. The ninja tools. We have seen these extraordinary tools passed down through generartions that were known to be the Sages. I have always wondered, if the Sage was so powerful, why have these and where did they come from? Well my explanation would be that with the absence of ninjutsu the sage must have turned to these weapons. The only thing I dont get is that they all seem to require a pretty heafty amount of chakra to use, so how could he use them with no chakra? That segways nicely to my next point.

2. The Sage could use chakra, but only natural chakra. He is known as the SAGE for a reason, he must have had the ability to tap into nature like we have seen the current sages (naruto, jiraya, kabuto, etc.) Well if he could only use natural chakra then he could use his weapons as he pleased.


To summarize: Before the Sage defeated the Juubi people werent just born with chakra flowing through them, that is why ninjutsu wasnt used before this event. After his victory, he sealed the Juubi in himself and from then on as we make our way to present time, people are born with chakra instead of having to gather it from nature.

Just an idea...
 

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Nature chakra IS chakra dude. I get what you're saying but it doesn't make much sense.
 

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Nature chakra IS chakra dude. I get what you're saying but it doesn't make much sense.

Right, but go back to where the toad was explaining nature chakra to Naruto. There is charka from nature and then the internal chakra everyone naturally has. What I am saying is people didnt have that before the juubi was slain. EVERYONE's chakra now was once the Juubis.
 

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Chakra is the mixture of physical and spiritual energy. The sage could have been the first one, through observation of the Juubi, to see him mix together the yin and yang into a TBB, then copied the process in himself. Just a thought, though.
 

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he created the Moon with Chibaku Tensei, which is a ninjutsu move.
 

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he created the Moon with Chibaku Tensei, which is a ninjutsu move.

After he beat the Juubi...to seal its body. Right?

Im saying he could use ninjutsu. AFTER he beat the Juubi.
 

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He sealed the Juubi in his body, isn't using a seal requiring to use chakra and ninjutsu? He also had the Rinnegan, which enabled him to use ninjutsu if he so desired. And how are people born with chakra connections only after the sage taught people about chakra? People must've always had them, they just didn't know how to use chakra and the sage taught them. I don't see why the sage couldn't use ninjutsu if he was born with the Rinnegan.
 

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He sealed the Juubi in his body, isn't using a seal requiring to use chakra and ninjutsu? He also had the Rinnegan, which enabled him to use ninjutsu if he so desired. And how are people born with chakra connections only after the sage taught people about chakra? People must've always had them, they just didn't know how to use chakra and the sage taught them. I don't see why the sage couldn't use ninjutsu if he was born with the Rinnegan.

Where does it day he was born with Rinnegan? If this is true show me. Also, the only time we see him pre-juubi fight is when he is actually fighting the Juubi, to which we can only see his back. However, the Juubi possesses the Rinnegan, we dont see it on the Sage. In fact, I think it would be more far-fetched to think they both had Rinnegan when they faught.

Also, why would people not be able to use their chakra? You don't think its weird that ninjutsu isnt able to be used until chakra personified is defeated? It seems like a coincidence.
 

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i see what your saying, but he invented ninjutsu, and the "creation of all things" jutsu is a ninjutsu, which he used to create the juubi. maybe he didnt have chakra (since chakra originated from the juubi),he probably just had some form of spiritual energy. only kishi knows
 
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