Sage Of Six Paths Born with the Rinnegan?

[Flawž]

We found out that the sage isn't An uzumaki. [As far as we know] but from another clan. Since his mother Kaguya ate the apple from the forbidden tree, she acquired Chakra and was A god to the people of that time.

shortly after, She gave birth to a son who was born with the same chakra his mother had.

Could it be that the sage was born with the Rinnegan or did he acquire it by a different method?


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Regarding the sage not being an uzumaki :

Spoiler

We still don't know His father's Clan which means he could be Half uzumaki, half ootsutsuki.

 

[Kirikoe]

i believe rinnegan was aquiried after becoming the juubi jinchuriki.. and the special abilities passed down by senju and uchiha

wood and sharingan i also believe came from the juubi...

 

[Transcendence]

Most likely, yes. It most likely came from the Juubi though. Kaguya ate the fruit which was from the Tree which is the Juubi's true essence. He inherited the power from his mother, which means she most likely had it. So... it goes like this:

Juubi (Shinju) -> Kaguya -> Rikudou. For the Rinnegan.

 

[Tebows Youth Group]

I think all indications point to him being born with the Rinnegan.

In a sense, both sides were right.

The Rinnegan does come from the Juubi.

AND

The Sage was born with it.

Funny how it happened like that..

 

[Yanks]

maybe the fruit caused a genetic mutation granting the fetus sage rinnegan powers

 

[Flawž]

Most likely, yes. It most likely came from the Juubi though. Kaguya ate the fruit which was from the Tree which is the Juubi's true essence. He inherited the power from his mother, which means she most likely had it. So... it goes like this:

Juubi (Shinju) -> Kaguya -> Rikudou. For the Rinnegan.

Kaguya having the rinnegan? hmm very interesting and plausible.

 

[Transcendence]

Kaguya having the rinnegan? hmm very interesting and plausible.

Well if we base the assumption (which is almost a forgone conclusion) that all chakra originates from the Juubi (God Tree), then so does the Rinnegan since it also allows people to master anything chakra related. Kaguya gained that power, and because of her, Rikudou was born with it. But, it's all because it stems right back to the Juubi.

 

[Flawž]

Well if we base the assumption (which is almost a forgone conclusion) that all chakra originates from the Juubi (God Tree), then so does the Rinnegan since it also allows people to master anything chakra related. Kaguya gained that power, and because of her, Rikudou was born with it. But, it's all because it stems right back to the Juubi.

Yes i do agree with you,

But wouldn't that mean that everyone with that chakra can acquire the rinnegan?

After all, everyone does indeed have chakra from the god tree.

 

[KGB Kakuzu]

I've figured he was always born with it, but between today and the chapter the Juubi saw the Rinnegan behind Naruto I'd say it was like that ay birth.


As for the Uzumaki bit most likely the father's last name was Ootsutsuki... I hardly can see them pulling yet another name hide.


It should be easily recognized that while he may not be a direct Uzumaki (aka not Hogoromo Uzumaki), he's obviously the oldest known ancestor of the Uzumaki.

It was already co.firmed the Uzumaki and Senju are distant blood relatives which sounds like a cousin idea. So obviously they have a relation to the sage... So if his hair is red... It appears some descendant of the Younger Son picked up the genetic trait of red hair and it passed into the clan.


People also seem to forget that the Elder and Younger Sons aren't mentions to specifically start the clans, but that their descendants formed the clan. Or more specifically their descendants became Known as Uchiha and Senju... Leaving an unspecified amount of time in which other clans (Aka: Hyuga and Uzumaki) likely spread from the Elder and Younger Son as smaller off branching families. Since the majority of the descendants remained in conflict, these old ties have been forgotten.



So... The Sage in theory is an Uzumaki, Senju, Uchiha, and most likely Hyuga. While not a member of any specific clan... He is the progenitor of these clans.

 

[Transcendence]

Yes i do agree with you,

But wouldn't that mean that everyone with that chakra can acquire the rinnegan?

After all, everyone does indeed have chakra from the god tree.

Anybody who gets it directly from the tree and or has the Juubi inside them, yes. But beyond that, normal people's blood is far too diluted to the point where it is non-existent.

 

[SasoriOfTheRedSaand]

Well, the forbidden fruit was produced from the God tree itself, ergo, the Juubi. Meaning, the devoured fruit blessed Kaguya with it's power. So the Sage inheriting what his mother ate (Juubi's power) is highly plausible. I'd wager on the Sage being born with the Rinnegan.

The reason people claimed otherwise before was because previously, in the manga, it said explicitly that the Sage was the founder of chakra, when we now know his mother before him had accessed it beforehand.

 

[Flawž]

Anybody who gets it directly from the tree and or has the Juubi inside them, yes. But beyond that, normal people's blood is far too diluted to the point where it is non-existent.

Yes exactly, My thoughts as well.

I've figured he was always born with it, but between today and the chapter the Juubi saw the Rinnegan behind Naruto I'd say it was like that ay birth.


As for the Uzumaki bit most likely the father's last name was Ootsutsuki... I hardly can see them pulling yet another name hide.


It should be easily recognized that while he may not be a direct Uzumaki (aka not Hogoromo Uzumaki), he's obviously the oldest known ancestor of the Uzumaki.

It was already co.firmed the Uzumaki and Senju are distant blood relatives which sounds like a cousin idea. So obviously they have a relation to the sage... So if his hair is red... It appears some descendant of the Younger Son picked up the genetic trait of red hair and it passed into the clan.


People also seem to forget that the Elder and Younger Sons aren't mentions to specifically start the clans, but that their descendants formed the clan. Or more specifically their descendants became Known as Uchiha and Senju... Leaving an unspecified amount of time in which other clans (Aka: Hyuga and Uzumaki) likely spread from the Elder and Younger Son as smaller off branching families. Since the majority of the descendants remained in conflict, these old ties have been forgotten.



So... The Sage in theory is an Uzumaki, Senju, Uchiha, and most likely Hyuga. While not a member of any specific clan... He is the progenitor of these clans.

Yea maybe he was the progenitor Of all the clans. Seems plausible.

 

[Mr Hiru]

We found out that the sage isn't An uzumaki. [As far as we know] but from another clan. Since his mother Kaguya ate the apple from the forbidden tree, she acquired Chakra and was A god to the people of that time.

shortly after, She gave birth to a son who was born with the same chakra his mother had.

Could it be that the sage was born with the Rinnegan or did he acquire it by a different method?


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Regarding the sage not being an uzumaki :

Spoiler

We still don't know His father's Clan which means he could be Half uzumaki, half ootsutsuki.

Everything points towards the following statement...

- The sage is the origin of all shinobis, meaning that there weren't any 'shinobi clans' at that time.

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[NUMNARD G]

Juubi (Shinju) -> Kaguya -> Rikudou. For the Rinnegan.

If this was true, howcome Kaguya wasnt able to stop the god tree? There is also no evidence she had the rinnegan.

Edit: Didnt see the arrows, but it stillcant be implied that she had the rinnegan with little evidence.

 

[valandil988]

We found out that the sage isn't An uzumaki. [As far as we know] but from another clan. Since his mother Kaguya ate the apple from the forbidden tree, she acquired Chakra and was A god to the people of that time.

shortly after, She gave birth to a son who was born with the same chakra his mother had.

Could it be that the sage was born with the Rinnegan or did he acquire it by a different method?


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Regarding the sage not being an uzumaki :

Spoiler

We still don't know His father's Clan which means he could be Half uzumaki, half ootsutsuki.

Probably born with it it looks now.

 

[Yashoda]

In reference to the clan issue: Kishimoto is obviously drawing his fiction ideas from non-fiction events (e.g. the fruit of the tree of God is to the Tree of Life in the Bible, and the fruit's "off-limits" state is the same in the Bible as well). This being said, Kishimoto is probably drawing his history of ninja clans off of real life history; in actuality, people in [very] ancient Japan were not automatically part of a clan/surname. Surnames were developed so surveys and consensus', issued by the government, could easily differentiate between people living in different territories. So someone who lived in a place near a river might have the word gawa (river) in their surname, while somebody else in a completely different location, who let's say lived near mountains, would have the yama (mountain) in their surname. This being said, the concept of "clans" in the Naruto universe might not have been established until after the creation of shinobi/ninja.

But there's always room for my mistake -- so only time will tell.

 

[Transcendence]

If this was true, howcome Kaguya wasnt able to stop the god tree? There is also no evidence she had the rinnegan.

Edit: Didnt see the arrows, but it stillcant be implied that she had the rinnegan with little evidence.

No, it's pretty much implied she had it. Juubi is the progenitor of all chakra and the Rinnegan allows people to master everything chakra related. The only way he could have had it is because he inherited from his mother.

She wasn't able to stop the God tree because she wasn't able to fully understand chakra per say. She just "gained" the power whereas Rikudou was able to stabilize it and thus create teachings known as Ninshu. His knowledge probably led him to create Fuinjutsu which was the way he "stopped" the Juubi.

 

[Revengedace]

LOL we can drop the uzumaki theory because its so cleche, but yes i do think he was born with rinnegan

 

[Seventh Sama]

yes, he was most likely born with it because he was wearing the same haori that had the rinnegan and the tomoe symbols when he fought the juubi and after we see him with it when he says bye to the baby bijuu's. sorry if this doesn't make any sense :dunno:

 

[aMgDrew]

He had no biological father, like Jesus. Juubi raped Kaguya from the inside and then Sage mated with Juubi to create the Uchiha and Senju ancestors. Well. I guess they both got the best wood there is. Poor Madara.