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Ok guys I have been viewing alot of threads saying that kabuto's Sage mode is perfected and is the best. But in the past episodes and manga releases we seen how naruto had to become one with nature before obtaining this new power and he actually knows how to CONTROL it .

But Kabuto in the other hand just obsorbed people abilities such as Sugetsu and Hugo and he is not capable of fully controlling sage mode such as Naruto and Jman AND Naruto and jman also have Ma and Pa which provide Genjutsu :eek:

Naruto + Cheif Toad= WTF!!

Kabuto + cheif Snake= OP!!!!
 

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Seems to me like he's doing a good job at it.
 
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No I don't think kabuto is therebyet. He has a lot of knowledge not enough natural ability. I believe sage mode requires a equal balance of both.
 

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Exactly what are you basing your claim of Kabuto not being able to fully control sage mode on? It seem to me you're reaching with htis.The last two chapters haven't shown anything to support your claim.
 

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you cant really claim which one is stronger atm since kabuto hasnt shown all of his tricks so calm the **** down nerds.
 

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Kabuto is now like a Mad scientist with atom bomb now....
 

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I won't say which Sage Mode is better, but he's had plenty of time to prepare and learn to use it. He also has a far wider, better range of jutsu than Naruto does, equivelant likely to J-Man's. Overall, Naruto's Sage Mode is weakest, out of the 3 because he doesn't have the jutsu set, aside from rasengan.
 

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the summoning that kabuto had was pretty sick and would have beaten anybody except susano'o users and sensor-nins. like the toad-genjutsu without preparation time.
at the same time he has shown great evasive abilities, proving that he probably has the same sensor-techniques which naruto has. i think that kaboro's sm is close to be perfect or perfect already.

I won't say which Sage Mode is better, but he's had plenty of time to prepare and learn to use it. He also has a far wider, better range of jutsu than Naruto does, equivelant likely to J-Man's. Overall, Naruto's Sage Mode is weakest, out of the 3 because he doesn't have the jutsu set, aside from rasengan.

i agree, but i think his question is mostly weather kaboro has mastered sm and weather it can compete. i'm not sure weather he mastered it, but imo it can compete with the frog's sm.
 
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I won't say which Sage Mode is better, but he's had plenty of time to prepare and learn to use it. He also has a far wider, better range of jutsu than Naruto does, equivelant likely to J-Man's. Overall, Naruto's Sage Mode is weakest, out of the 3 because he doesn't have the jutsu set, aside from rasengan.

Naruto Sage Mode isn't the weakest seeing as he has a Perfect Toad Sage Mode and Jiraiya has an Imperfect Toad Sage Mode.I think you mean naruto is the weaker Shinobi out of the three because of his lack of variation with his jutsus.
 

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either naruto's sm and kabuto's sm is complete.

naruto's isn't complete because he can't fully absorb nature chakra because he has kurama's chakra in him

kabuto's isn't complete in a sense that he hasn't fully control it without using abilities given by others to where he could have the body required to posses dragon sage mode. that's the reason orochimaru couldnt achieve it.

since naruto was closer to perfecting sage mode on his own i would say that naruto's toad sage mode would be better
 

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both are complete, in their own way. Kabuto's sm has massive abilities, but what people miss is that naruto has NEVER been hurt while in sage mode. that's pretty impressive, given that he fought pain, the third raikage, and a little vs madara and tobi while in sm.
 

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either naruto's sm and kabuto's sm is complete.

naruto's isn't complete because he can't fully absorb nature chakra because he has kurama's chakra in him

kabuto's isn't complete in a sense that he hasn't fully control it without using abilities given by others to where he could have the body required to posses dragon sage mode. that's the reason orochimaru couldnt achieve it.

since naruto was closer to perfecting sage mode on his own i would say that naruto's toad sage mode would be better

This is wrong.Naruto is complete in the term of fully mastering Sage Mode, he just can't fused with Ma and Pa to have them continuously absorb Sage Chakra for him.
 

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Naruto Sage Mode isn't the weakest seeing as he has a Perfect Toad Sage Mode and Jiraiya has an Imperfect Toad Sage Mode.I think you mean naruto is the weaker Shinobi out of the three because of his lack of variation with his jutsus.

i think he meant that naruto benefits the fewest from sage mode's ability, to increase the strength of one's own jutsus, because he has literally three jutsus of which one is even weakened (kb).
apart from that you are right, he was said to have perfected the transformation, because he has almost no signs of a frog in that mode.
 
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