I begin by releasing a wave of chakra from my chakra points which soon passes by you and infiltrates your chakra stream. It doesn't take long until you begin sinking in to the ground as if it was water. After that a swarm of dark butterflies spin around you that you watch, identifying my technique.
Rank: A
Type:Supplementary/Attack
Range:Short-Mid
Chakra Cost:30
Damage Points:60
Description: Traps user in an illusion were they first think that they are sucked into he ground to shoulder height and then they see butterflies but they are really paper bombs that explode once the user puts the main seal on the enemies head.
I instantly continue with another technique which happens just as you begin sinking into the ground and follow up with an earth technique which takes almost no time due to my elemental affinity of earth. I simply slam my hands on ground and your paralyzed body would be sent high into the air by a piercing tips of the spikes hitting you from beneath.
Rank: B
Type: Offense
Range: Short/Mid
Chakra Cost: 20
Damage Points: 40
Description: The user first performs the Bird hand seal and the user condense mud or stone, from the ground, and shape them into spikes that will protrude from the ground in order to skewer the target. The spikes cannot penetrate targets of greater density.
Also, I'd like to note that you would realize that it's a genjutsu once the butterflies start circling around you which is after you sink into the ground as I stated (and my earth technique happens as soon as you begin sinking. Sinking into the ground would be linked to swamp of underworld and since you have experience of some level, you'd most likely try to counter with a hurricane fist or earth rampart). Knowing that, I am ready to relocate my attack on top of a rampart which you may create.
I begin by releasing a wave of chakra from my chakra points which soon passes by you and infiltrates your chakra stream. It doesn't take long until you begin sinking in to the ground as if it was water. After that a swarm of dark butterflies spin around you that you watch, identifying my technique.
Rank: A
Type:Supplementary/Attack
Range:Short-Mid
Chakra Cost:30
Damage Points:60
Description: Traps user in an illusion were they first think that they are sucked into he ground to shoulder height and then they see butterflies but they are really paper bombs that explode once the user puts the main seal on the enemies head.
I instantly continue with another technique which happens just as you begin sinking into the ground and follow up with an earth technique which takes almost no time due to my elemental affinity of earth. I simply slam my hands on ground and your paralyzed body would be sent high into the air by a piercing tips of the spikes hitting you from beneath.
Rank: B
Type: Offense
Range: Short/Mid
Chakra Cost: 20
Damage Points: 40
Description: The user first performs the Bird hand seal and the user condense mud or stone, from the ground, and shape them into spikes that will protrude from the ground in order to skewer the target. The spikes cannot penetrate targets of greater density.
Also, I'd like to note that you would realize that it's a genjutsu once the butterflies start circling around you which is after you sink into the ground as I stated (and my earth technique happens as soon as you begin sinking. Sinking into the ground would be linked to swamp of underworld and since you have experience of some level, you'd most likely try to counter with a hurricane fist or earth rampart). Knowing that, I am ready to relocate my attack on top of a rampart which you may create.
Actually no, i'd know its not the swamp due to two reasons:
1) theres no swamp
2) the fact you use a single seal compared to the short chain needed for the swamp
another factor to note. if you read the tournament rules, elemental affinities are not allowed so non of those cheap tricks thanks.
so simply, as i start to sink i cut my left palm with my kunai ( thereby allowing me to still use seals as the damage is superficial but still causes plenty of pain) ending the technique as you prepare the next.
as you make the bird seal and slam your hands on the ground (yes you still need to make the seal) i know its a doton jutsu you are trying to use, so i instantly release an unfocused raiton into the ground below me. overpowering your doton chakra
(Raiton: Chidori Nagashi) - Lightning Release: One Thousand Birds Current
Rank: A
Type: Offense/Defence
Range: Short - Mid
Chakra Cost: 30
Damage Points: 60
Description: This jutsu allows the user to generate non-focused electrically charged chakra from their body. Because the electricity isn't focused, it doesn't kill on contact, instead it only paralyzes. The lightning can be channelled through metal objects, as well as spread out into the air or ground.
i then create powerful water/wind combo that travels directly at you:
(Suiton: Gufuu Suika) - Water Style: Typhoon Water Vortex
Rank: A
Type: Attack/Defence
Range: Short-Mid
Chakra cost: 30
Damage Points: 60
Description:The user will create a ‘Wind Style: Rasengan’ in one hand, and ‘Water Style: Destruction Torrent’ in the other. By combining them, he will create a tornado of water that can be used to attack or defend. This jutsu can also be used to drown out wind and fire combos
Note: No water source required.
while its travelling at you i raise the ground behind you at a rapid rate preventing you from escaping backwards:
Rank: A
Type: Offensive, Defensive, Supplementary
Range: Short - Long
Chakra cost: 30
Damage points: N/A
Description: The user lowers or raises the ground in the surrounding area at high speeds, allowing them to create giant holes in the ground or avoid attacks. The size of the affected area as well as the depths that it is lowered to is up to the user and rasing earth can be done up to 20 meters tall creating a small cliff or they can create trenches that can be as deep as 20 meters. Other than being moved below ground relative to the surrounding surface the terrain is not altered, plant life and people retaining their same positions.
Actually no, i'd know its not the swamp due to two reasons:
1) theres no swamp
2) the fact you use a single seal compared to the short chain needed for the swamp
another factor to note. if you read the tournament rules, elemental affinities are not allowed so non of those cheap tricks thanks.
so simply, as i start to sink i cut my left palm with my kunai ( thereby allowing me to still use seals as the damage is superficial but still causes plenty of pain) ending the technique as you prepare the next.
as you make the bird seal and slam your hands on the ground (yes you still need to make the seal) i know its a doton jutsu you are trying to use, so i instantly release an unfocused raiton into the ground below me. overpowering your doton chakra
(Raiton: Chidori Nagashi) - Lightning Release: One Thousand Birds Current
Rank: A
Type: Offense/Defence
Range: Short - Mid
Chakra Cost: 30
Damage Points: 60
Description: This jutsu allows the user to generate non-focused electrically charged chakra from their body. Because the electricity isn't focused, it doesn't kill on contact, instead it only paralyzes. The lightning can be channelled through metal objects, as well as spread out into the air or ground.
i then create powerful water/wind combo that travels directly at you:
(Suiton: Gufuu Suika) - Water Style: Typhoon Water Vortex
Rank: A
Type: Attack/Defence
Range: Short-Mid
Chakra cost: 30
Damage Points: 60
Description:The user will create a ‘Wind Style: Rasengan’ in one hand, and ‘Water Style: Destruction Torrent’ in the other. By combining them, he will create a tornado of water that can be used to attack or defend. This jutsu can also be used to drown out wind and fire combos
Note: No water source required.
while its travelling at you i raise the ground behind you at a rapid rate preventing you from escaping backwards:
Rank: A
Type: Offensive, Defensive, Supplementary
Range: Short - Long
Chakra cost: 30
Damage points: N/A
Description: The user lowers or raises the ground in the surrounding area at high speeds, allowing them to create giant holes in the ground or avoid attacks. The size of the affected area as well as the depths that it is lowered to is up to the user and rasing earth can be done up to 20 meters tall creating a small cliff or they can create trenches that can be as deep as 20 meters. Other than being moved below ground relative to the surrounding surface the terrain is not altered, plant life and people retaining their same positions.
I could argue with you for eternity about whether or not you would be able of telling what technique I am using quick enough and whatnot. I would like to point out how in this video Ino clearly disappears from mher opponent's view when using this genjutsu and showed herself when the tag was placed. Since I didn't tag you and you decided to cut your palm when the sinking starts which is at the same time as I began my second technique (it would take longer time than me performing one hand seal due you not stating that you aren't holding a kunai already, which would mean that you'd need to reach whatever place you store them in and pull one out). Following that logic you wouldn't have seen my hand seal that you used to identify my technique (hand seal, first thing you make before using a technique). However I will ignore this flaw since I don't want to end this fight in arguing with you on who is right and who isn't, so I'll just continue from you using Chidori Nagashi.
As you release your Chidori Nagashi, I lower the ground beneath you (before you get to use your typhoon water vortex) to create a deep trench that's about twenty meters deep which you are in (jutsu is instant even if I don't use my elemental affinity).
Rank: A
Type: Offensive, Defensive, Supplementary
Range: Short - Long
Chakra cost: 30
Damage points: N/A
Description: The user lowers or raises the ground in the surrounding area at high speeds, allowing them to create giant holes in the ground or avoid attacks. The size of the affected area as well as the depths that it is lowered to is up to the user and rasing earth can be done up to 20 meters tall creating a small cliff or they can create trenches that can be as deep as 20 meters. Other than being moved below ground relative to the surrounding surface the terrain is not altered, plant life and people retaining their same positions.
I quickly perform a string of hand seals and release a surge of lightning through the ground which causes the sides of the trench to collapse ontop of you and leave electricity into ground, preventing you from escaping underground.
Rank: A
Type: Attack
Range: Short – Mid
Chakra cost: 30
Damage points: 60
Description: After performing a small sequence of hand seals the user will place their hand on the ground converting their chakra in to lightning. The user then sends an enormous bolt of electricity that cuts through the ground in the direction of the enemy. The shape of the bolt is a triangular with the base in the direction of the user and the tip headed towards the target. It causes devastating destruction on its way and generates enough heat and power to destroy whatever it comes into contact with.
I could argue with you for eternity about whether or not you would be able of telling what technique I am using quick enough and whatnot. I would like to point out how in this video Ino clearly disappears from mher opponent's view when using this genjutsu and showed herself when the tag was placed. Since I didn't tag you and you decided to cut your palm when the sinking starts which is at the same time as I began my second technique (it would take longer time than me performing one hand seal due you not stating that you aren't holding a kunai already, which would mean that you'd need to reach whatever place you store them in and pull one out). Following that logic you wouldn't have seen my hand seal that you used to identify my technique (hand seal, first thing you make before using a technique). However I will ignore this flaw since I don't want to end this fight in arguing with you on who is right and who isn't, so I'll just continue from you using Chidori Nagashi.
As you release your Chidori Nagashi, I lower the ground beneath you (before you get to use your typhoon water vortex) to create a deep trench that's about twenty meters deep which you are in (jutsu is instant even if I don't use my elemental affinity).
Rank: A
Type: Offensive, Defensive, Supplementary
Range: Short - Long
Chakra cost: 30
Damage points: N/A
Description: The user lowers or raises the ground in the surrounding area at high speeds, allowing them to create giant holes in the ground or avoid attacks. The size of the affected area as well as the depths that it is lowered to is up to the user and rasing earth can be done up to 20 meters tall creating a small cliff or they can create trenches that can be as deep as 20 meters. Other than being moved below ground relative to the surrounding surface the terrain is not altered, plant life and people retaining their same positions.
I quickly perform a string of hand seals and release a surge of lightning through the ground which causes the sides of the trench to collapse ontop of you and leave electricity into ground, preventing you from escaping underground.
Rank: A
Type: Attack
Range: Short – Mid
Chakra cost: 30
Damage points: 60
Description: After performing a small sequence of hand seals the user will place their hand on the ground converting their chakra in to lightning. The user then sends an enormous bolt of electricity that cuts through the ground in the direction of the enemy. The shape of the bolt is a triangular with the base in the direction of the user and the tip headed towards the target. It causes devastating destruction on its way and generates enough heat and power to destroy whatever it comes into contact with.
Just a note.. i have a problem with the timing of your earth core.. as as i use nagashi you are using the stone spears.. and if you stop performing those, your doton jutsu would still be nullified by the raiton chakra i'm channelling into the floor. Anyway, I'll continue from your earth technique.
As the floor beneath me drops, i jump away from it, also aided by the inertia of the floor dropping, and exhale a gust of wind that propels me into the air above the hole, directed towards the side opposite you:
Rank: D
Type: Supplementary
Range: Short
Chakra cost: 10
Damage points: N/A
Description: This technique allows the user to change direction in mid-air at high speeds by simply blowing wind out their mouth. The user can also use this technique by blowing it at the ground and causing a dust cloud to rise, concealing the users location and movement.
while still in the air above the hole, i release a massive blast of wind chakra at you (this also effects me by propelling me further away from you, with me landing at long range from you the other side of the hole):
(Fūton: Atsugai) - Wind Style: Pressure Damage
Rank: A
Type:Attack
Range:Short-Mid
Chakra Cost:30
Damage Points:60
Description: A Huge blast of wind that levels anything in its path; Can cause major damage and requires a sufficient chakra level to perform. This large wind blast moves in tremendous speed and cannot be controlled. If the user gets caught in it, it will harm him also.
I then make a clone (though you do not know it, this clone can explode)
(Bunshin Bakuha) - Shadow Clone Explosion
Rank: A
Type: Supplementary
Range: Short-Mid
Chakra Cost: 30
Damage Points: 60
Description:At first glance the clone appears to be a normal tangible Bunshin, but the user can detonate the clone at any time to form a very large explosion. (This shadow clone variant can only use normal ninjutsu, and Taijutsu).
Note:Must already know shadow clone jutsu to use this jutsu.
Just a note.. i have a problem with the timing of your earth core.. as as i use nagashi you are using the stone spears.. and if you stop performing those, your doton jutsu would still be nullified by the raiton chakra i'm channelling into the floor. Anyway, I'll continue from your earth technique.
As the floor beneath me drops, i jump away from it, also aided by the inertia of the floor dropping, and exhale a gust of wind that propels me into the air above the hole, directed towards the side opposite you:
Rank: D
Type: Supplementary
Range: Short
Chakra cost: 10
Damage points: N/A
Description: This technique allows the user to change direction in mid-air at high speeds by simply blowing wind out their mouth. The user can also use this technique by blowing it at the ground and causing a dust cloud to rise, concealing the users location and movement.
while still in the air above the hole, i release a massive blast of wind chakra at you (this also effects me by propelling me further away from you, with me landing at long range from you the other side of the hole):
(Fūton: Atsugai) - Wind Style: Pressure Damage
Rank: A
Type:Attack
Range:Short-Mid
Chakra Cost:30
Damage Points:60
Description: A Huge blast of wind that levels anything in its path; Can cause major damage and requires a sufficient chakra level to perform. This large wind blast moves in tremendous speed and cannot be controlled. If the user gets caught in it, it will harm him also.
I then make a clone (though you do not know it, this clone can explode)
(Bunshin Bakuha) - Shadow Clone Explosion
Rank: A
Type: Supplementary
Range: Short-Mid
Chakra Cost: 30
Damage Points: 60
Description:At first glance the clone appears to be a normal tangible Bunshin, but the user can detonate the clone at any time to form a very large explosion. (This shadow clone variant can only use normal ninjutsu, and Taijutsu).
Note:Must already know shadow clone jutsu to use this jutsu.
You said that you used Chidori Nagashi when I slammed my hands on ground (point when jutsu A happens and B with short interval (and I don't recall ever needing to keep on sending chakra into ground constantly, so I can't see the problem (and your A lightning < B and A Earth))) as I continued with a near instant Moving Earth Core.
Oh how I love indirect debates. <3
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As I see you jump out of the pit and perform the one hand seal (Ram) and inhale, I notice you performing Atsugai and stop my five hand seal string (I would've stopped it even if you weren't using atsugai) and quickly perform Bird hand seal and inhale. Once you release your atsugai, I've pulled off a counter technique (Dust cloud) that'll clash with your pressure damage.
Rank: A
Type: Offensive
Range: Short - Long
Chakra cost: 30
Damage points: 60
Description: After performing the Bird hand seal the user creates a stream of high velocity wind combined with scouring dust. The completed technique is directed through overlapping hands.
The clash between these two techniques scatter dust all over the terrain. I use this as my benefit and perform two hand seals before exhaling a large fireball that goes through the dust cloud and continues towards you.
Rank: B
Type: Offense
Range: Short/Long
Chakra Cost: 20
Damage Points: 40
Description: The user after performing the Horse → Tiger hand seals exhales a meteor-sized sphere of fire that carries the enemy away and causes a massive explosion on impact.
Actually no, i'd know its not the swamp due to two reasons:
1) theres no swamp
2) the fact you use a single seal compared to the short chain needed for the swamp
another factor to note. if you read the tournament rules, elemental affinities are not allowed so non of those cheap tricks thanks.
so simply, as i start to sink i cut my left palm with my kunai ( thereby allowing me to still use seals as the damage is superficial but still causes plenty of pain) ending the technique as you prepare the next.
as you make the bird seal and slam your hands on the ground (yes you still need to make the seal) i know its a doton jutsu you are trying to use, so i instantly release an unfocused raiton into the ground below me. overpowering your doton chakra
(Raiton: Chidori Nagashi) - Lightning Release: One Thousand Birds Current
Rank: A
Type: Offense/Defence
Range: Short - Mid
Chakra Cost: 30
Damage Points: 60
Description: This jutsu allows the user to generate non-focused electrically charged chakra from their body. Because the electricity isn't focused, it doesn't kill on contact, instead it only paralyzes. The lightning can be channelled through metal objects, as well as spread out into the air or ground.
i then create powerful water/wind combo that travels directly at you:
(Suiton: Gufuu Suika) - Water Style: Typhoon Water Vortex
Rank: A
Type: Attack/Defence
Range: Short-Mid
Chakra cost: 30
Damage Points: 60
Description:The user will create a ‘Wind Style: Rasengan’ in one hand, and ‘Water Style: Destruction Torrent’ in the other. By combining them, he will create a tornado of water that can be used to attack or defend. This jutsu can also be used to drown out wind and fire combos
Note: No water source required.
while its travelling at you i raise the ground behind you at a rapid rate preventing you from escaping backwards:
Rank: A
Type: Offensive, Defensive, Supplementary
Range: Short - Long
Chakra cost: 30
Damage points: N/A
Description: The user lowers or raises the ground in the surrounding area at high speeds, allowing them to create giant holes in the ground or avoid attacks. The size of the affected area as well as the depths that it is lowered to is up to the user and rasing earth can be done up to 20 meters tall creating a small cliff or they can create trenches that can be as deep as 20 meters. Other than being moved below ground relative to the surrounding surface the terrain is not altered, plant life and people retaining their same positions.
You can't use tournament rules to say he doesn't have an elemental affinity so you know what jutsu he is using. As far as you're concerned, he could have that affinity due to it being rp as an actual battle, so i don't agree with your counter to Passion's genjutsu, i'm not the only one, i have Mod's backing me. Not only that but because of the gen itself, you can't move to stab yourself
@your problem with perry's earth core. He would have formed the spikes for you to defend from them, and with his chakra already focussing in the ground it should pretty much be instant for him to drop the earth. Not only that but you are combining to elements after stopping your nagashi.
You can't use tournament rules to say he doesn't have an elemental affinity so you know what jutsu he is using. As far as you're concerned, he could have that affinity due to it being rp as an actual battle, so i don't agree with your counter to Passion's genjutsu, i'm not the only one, i have Mod's backing me. Not only that but because of the gen itself, you can't move to stab yourself
@your problem with perry's earth core. He would have formed the spikes for you to defend from them, and with his chakra already focussing in the ground it should pretty much be instant for him to drop the earth. Not only that but you are combining to elements after stopping your nagashi.
Actually no, i'd know its not the swamp due to two reasons:
1) theres no swamp
2) the fact you use a single seal compared to the short chain needed for the swamp
another factor to note. if you read the tournament rules, elemental affinities are not allowed so non of those cheap tricks thanks.
so simply, as i start to sink i cut my left palm with my kunai ( thereby allowing me to still use seals as the damage is superficial but still causes plenty of pain) ending the technique as you prepare the next.
as you make the bird seal and slam your hands on the ground (yes you still need to make the seal) i know its a doton jutsu you are trying to use, so i instantly release an unfocused raiton into the ground below me. overpowering your doton chakra
(Raiton: Chidori Nagashi) - Lightning Release: One Thousand Birds Current
Rank: A
Type: Offense/Defence
Range: Short - Mid
Chakra Cost: 30
Damage Points: 60
Description: This jutsu allows the user to generate non-focused electrically charged chakra from their body. Because the electricity isn't focused, it doesn't kill on contact, instead it only paralyzes. The lightning can be channelled through metal objects, as well as spread out into the air or ground.
i then create powerful water/wind combo that travels directly at you:
(Suiton: Gufuu Suika) - Water Style: Typhoon Water Vortex
Rank: A
Type: Attack/Defence
Range: Short-Mid
Chakra cost: 30
Damage Points: 60
Description:The user will create a ‘Wind Style: Rasengan’ in one hand, and ‘Water Style: Destruction Torrent’ in the other. By combining them, he will create a tornado of water that can be used to attack or defend. This jutsu can also be used to drown out wind and fire combos
Note: No water source required.
while its travelling at you i raise the ground behind you at a rapid rate preventing you from escaping backwards:
Rank: A
Type: Offensive, Defensive, Supplementary
Range: Short - Long
Chakra cost: 30
Damage points: N/A
Description: The user lowers or raises the ground in the surrounding area at high speeds, allowing them to create giant holes in the ground or avoid attacks. The size of the affected area as well as the depths that it is lowered to is up to the user and rasing earth can be done up to 20 meters tall creating a small cliff or they can create trenches that can be as deep as 20 meters. Other than being moved below ground relative to the surrounding surface the terrain is not altered, plant life and people retaining their same positions.
As a sensei, you know pretty well that the only way to release from genjutsu is to actually get a reasonable and logic explanation of how you figured out its a genjutsu. This, off course, in a role play sense. This means that a normal ninja without a dojutsu or a sensing ability can't simply "know" is a genjutsu. He needs to figure it out through logic.
(Genjutsu: Chou Shinka) - Illusion Technique: Butter Fly Fire Works Rank: A
Type:Supplementary/Attack
Range:Short-Mid
Chakra Cost:30
Damage Points:60
Description: Traps user in an illusion were they first think that they are sucked into he ground to shoulder height and then they see butterflies but they are really paper bombs that explode once the user puts the main seal on the enemies head.
So basically, you start to sink into the ground the same as with an Earth Technique after your opponent does a hand seal. Until this point you need to counter this technique as if you would with an Earth Technique. Once you get to shoulder deep, butterflies start appearing around. By this point, you can say you think its weird to see the butterflies or that you recognize at this point that the technique is in fact a genjutsu and not an earth technique because you recognize the butterflies from your training, or something like that. But only when the butterflies actually appear. Until that point, for all you know, its an Earth Technique. Also, once you sense being sunk into the ground, your body believes it, thus (and taking into account you will be shoulder deep (according to your senses) when you actually get some reasoning behind it being a genjutsu) you won't be able to move your arms and such, leaving you unable to stab your hand.
Pervy asked me to post my opinion. After i read the fight completely and read your replies, my opinion is as follows:
As a sensei, you know pretty well that the only way to release from genjutsu is to actually get a reasonable and logic explanation of how you figured out its a genjutsu. This, off course, in a role play sense. This means that a normal ninja without a dojutsu or a sensing ability can't simply "know" is a genjutsu. He needs to figure it out through logic.
(Genjutsu: Chou Shinka) - Illusion Technique: Butter Fly Fire Works Rank: A
Type:Supplementary/Attack
Range:Short-Mid
Chakra Cost:30
Damage Points:60
Description: Traps user in an illusion were they first think that they are sucked into he ground to shoulder height and then they see butterflies but they are really paper bombs that explode once the user puts the main seal on the enemies head.
So basically, you start to sink into the ground the same as with an Earth Technique after your opponent does a hand seal. Until this point you need to counter this technique as if you would with an Earth Technique. Once you get to shoulder deep, butterflies start appearing around. By this point, you can say you think its weird to see the butterflies or that you recognize at this point that the technique is in fact a genjutsu and not an earth technique because you recognize the butterflies from your training, or something like that. But only when the butterflies actually appear. Until that point, for all you know, its an Earth Technique. Also, once you sense being sunk into the ground, your body believes it, thus (and taking into account you will be shoulder deep (according to your senses) when you actually get some reasoning behind it being a genjutsu) you won't be able to move your arms and such, leaving you unable to stab your hand.
Look like I said I dont care about losing this, nor do I want to argue but I actually did give a reason for breaking this and that is that the way I sunk into the ground was not similar to any doton that requires a single seal, as i said. So me being very familiar with genjutsu and doton, I would realise that this is not doton by me sinking after him making the single tiger seal.
But meh think what you wanna think, say what you want to say, I dont honestly care. The decision was made, I lost i'd just rather he'd used the existing valid reason of the fact i didnt respond enough to show any effort or willigness to compete than use dodgy reasoning and pulling me up on things I actually checked with him before i posted.
I guess this was already sorted out, but since Pervy asked to post my opinion..
I agree with Scorps on the gengutsu part. In fact, i have discussed that with him not so long ago. People release themselves from gengutsus just because. As you see Scorps, gengutsu are indeed, op, if you dont have doujutsu or sensing abilities.
