Exclude Tobirama As Base Minato Is Enough To Beat Him Albeit High Diff Any Form Above Base Is A Rape...Look Tobirama Is My Second Fave But He's Not Gonna Beat Minato As Easily As You Think.
So naruto bringing out a cloak of chakra that belongs to kurama= flexing his chakra.
Madara bringing out a cloak of his own chakra= not flexing his chakra. ... hmmm
your logic not mine
You are comparing Hashirama's own chakra to the chakra of jinchuriki which is initially the chakra of 2 entities... :yeah:
When the manga openly disagree's with you then I'm gonna disagree with you. I'm also not going to take your opinion seriously since like in the example above it can be incorrect.
Many ninja with bigger reserves didn't even try to learn SM.....
Most likely due to not knowing about it. Oro and Kabuto found out through juugo. Lord knows how hashirama did it, then the frog sm users found out through their frogs. But it's clear tobirama knew of it yet dosen't have it.... hmm
Makes sense that the guy who has been active in fighting and has SM has more stamina, than someone who hasn't been active. :erm:
Bringing out the main characters to nulify the "experience card" is so petty. The main characters are also the only ones who surpassed the previous generations, that hadn't been surpassed by any one after them. :yeah: But this is a common argument, when people don't know how to counter someone's experience. "ohhh the main character did it at this age"... hes the bloody main character rofl. They surpass others in power, not in skills.
oooo that minato fapboying, without any manga base. Now lets see, Minato became the fastest, because he mastered shunshin, so that means hes more skilled in fighitng? Show me how he made it 10x better, i wanna see the shitty excuses you come up with. The s/t barrier Tobirama already has. The FTG V2 that yall used to wank to... Tobirama already has.
"Minato taking on the strongest duo of the cloud"..... yea when they weren't even the strongest shinobi in the village. :erm: And do show me where he took them on in 2 vs 1 after that 1 fight also, because the 1 time he went 2 vs 1 (or atleast Minato was trying to go 2 vs 1) he got his ass stalemated by Killer B rofl. *_*. Tobirama didn't even die to Silver and Gold brothers... if you are talking about the coup in Kumo.. hopefully you have the brain to comprehend the coup consisted of more than just kinkaku and ginkaku. :yeah: Tobirama died to 20 ninja of the kinkaku and ginkaku force, who for all we know might have destroyed Killer B and Ay also. Do you know how he died??
Exclude Tobirama As Base Minato Is Enough To Beat Him Albeit High Diff Any Form Above Base Is A Rape...Look Tobirama Is My Second Fave But He's Not Gonna Beat Minato As Easily As You Think.
PS = a technique that allows the user to bring out his chakra into a shape.
Tobirama = has no PS = can't bring out his chakra into that shape even if he wanted to
You bringing up PS to show it as Madara having bigger reserves = failure..
Cool.. Kabuto goes Sage mode also. So does base Naruto (Naruto without Kurama's chakra when he mastered SM).. who has inferior Chakra than Tobirama..
Scans bro. Otherwise I can care less of your opinion
Simple knowledge of chakra would've been good enough for ya.. but sure.....
Stamina =/= chakra as proven by the scan you posted. They are 2 different things. Stamina can be converted into chakra, but that does not mean itself is chakra. Now that would also mean that when ninja take physical toll as in via movement they lose stamina (in Hiruzen's case him complaining about being tired and etc). However, as far as chakra goes.... there is chakra inside the body without ever bringing it from your stamina.. heard of the chakra network? Now you may try to claim chakra network only works when in fighting.. however that'd be false.. if that was the case ninja wouldn't have struggle with movement when their chakra points are closed by people like neji.
Furthermore, chakra already exists in the base of their stomachs:
Why are you trying to compare Minato to the Hagoromo the guy who is even many times sueprior to Hashirama? Minato isn't Hagoromo.. never will be...
False but whatever.
Yet thats what he did. hmm
So naruto bringing out a cloak of chakra that belongs to kurama= flexing his chakra.
Madara bringing out a cloak of his own chakra= not flexing his chakra. ... hmmm
your logic not mine
No the dumb logic in your post is yours. Because no logical person would compare a technique granted by eyes, to a mere cloak.. Notice I never claimed it to the Bijuu avatar cloak, then you might sound logical comparing them. You are the one who believes NAruto having yellow chakra around him = Madara having PS Around him.. not me.
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t doesn't change the fact that as a jin hosting a monster of chakra they would have comparable chakra levels.
naruto when he "flexes" brings out the kurama chakra around him.. and maybe he can even do it without bringing it out now.. but just so you know, that chakra itself belongs to the monster. not Naruto himself. So no clue why you would even expect them to do the samething as Tobirama /Hashirama....
known for vitality not high chakra lvls. Also to the point just cuz they were known for it that dosen't mean all have it.
kind of dumb to assume just because he was born into a clan he automatically gets the cream of the crop. It's quite clear he didn't.
Actually what it means is that, normal senju shinobi > normal shinobi in chakra. High teir senju shinobi > high teir other ninja in chakra. Its not quite dumb actually.. its pretty logical. And Tobirama wasn't the cream of the crop.. cause the cream of the crop has 9-tails level chakra.. i agree.. but Tobirama was right under the cream of the crop.
Guess what "life-force" is... chakra.
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MG]http://mangabase.net/wp-content/manga/1/411/p_00011.jpg[/IMG] When the manga openly disagree's with you then I'm gonna disagree with you. I'm also not going to take your opinion seriously since like in the example above it can be incorrect.
Only problem is it doesn't disagree with me. Due to the fact the "huge" reserves we are talking about are above that of Naruto who mastered SM. So I guess my bad on not being clear with it.. but yea dude..
Most likely due to not knowing about it. Oro and Kabuto found out through juugo. Lord knows how hashirama did it, then the frog sm users found out through their frogs. But it's clear tobirama knew of it yet dosen't have it.... hmm
Yup, Tsunade knew of it.. doesn't have it. Many other people know of SM .. don't have it. Why? Because they never bothered learning it. Just like Minato said SM is not his style.. and similarly to him SM is not Tobirama's style.
Hashirama's SM is limited to Hashirama's dna. And then Tobirama hasn't shown to have a contract with the frogs/snakes/slugs.. sooo yupp.
"base on nothing but your opinion"... hopefully you know your claim is also simply your opinion.
Does it last forever? no. Once the sound ends, you disrupt your chakra and then proceed to disrupt the genjutsu.. thats if you get caught in the first place.
How is he gonna seal if he can destroy them? Hes gonna seal them without even hitting them? Pretty dumb.
destroy: to cause (something) to end or no longer exist
Hiruzen Is Just Hype...Hype Wise He Was The Strongest Kage = Hiruzen > Your King Hashirama But Feat Wise He's A Fodder Compare To The Likes Of Minato/Tobirama/Hashirama & etc...
Hiruzen Is Just Hype...Hype Wise He Was The Strongest Kage = Hiruzen > Your King Hashirama But Feat Wise He's A Fodder Compare To The Likes Of Minato/Tobirama/Hashirama & etc...
Hype wise, Hashirama >> Hiruzen still.. Don't know what hype you been lookin at mate.
- Hiruzen mastered all combat forms.
- Hiruzen has knowledge on FTG and other crap Minato used.
- Hiruzen master of all 5 elements
Hype wise, Hiruzen was said to be the strongest Hokage by some , however, many of those also believed Hashirama's powers to be a myth, a non-existant fairy tale.. so Kishimoto already explained that. Hiruzen became powerful enough to earn the title of God of shinobi.
Hype wise, Hashirama >> Hiruzen still.. Don't know what hype you been lookin at mate.
- Hiruzen mastered all combat forms.
- Hiruzen has knowledge on FTG and other crap Minato used.
- Hiruzen master of all 5 elements
Hype wise, Hiruzen was said to be the strongest Hokage by some , however, many of those also believed Hashirama's powers to be a myth, a non-existant fairy tale.. so Kishimoto already explained that. Hiruzen became powerful enough to earn the title of God of shinobi.
the jutsu he learned from Minato? (I only recall him saying it was Minato's jutsu, but not about learning it from him) I doubt Minato taught it.. Hiruzen most likely just learned it after his death or something. Since it an Uzumaki seal, and not Minato's own jutsu.
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He had already started making the seals after the first one.. but couldn't finish it before the second one.. so the only one left he could stop would be the third one.
In fact it was Hiruzen himself who put Hashirama and Tobirama above Minato. "of all people, for him to summon those 2"
the jutsu he learned from Minato? (I only recall him saying it was Minato's jutsu, but not about learning it from him) I doubt Minato taught it.. Hiruzen most likely just learned it after his death or something. Since it an Uzumaki seal, and not Minato's own jutsu.
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He had already started making the seals after the first one.. but couldn't finish it before the second one.. so the only one left he could stop would be the third one.
In fact it was Hiruzen himself who put Hashirama and Tobirama above Minato. "of all people, for him to summon those 2"
Lol You're So Funny...It's 2015 & You Still Don't Know That Hiruzen Wasn't The One Who Stopped The Third Coffin?
Minato Couldn't Be Revived Because His Soul Was Inside The Reaper.
Lol You're So Funny...It's 2015 & You Still Don't Know That Hiruzen Wasn't The One Who Stopped The Third Coffin?
Minato Couldn't Be Revived Because His Soul Was Inside The Reaper.
Just show me where I said "Hiruzen was the one who stopped the coffin".....
I stated:
"he could stop would be the third one."
^^^ something Hiruzen was trying to do inside the manga.
Hiruzen himself acknowledges that the coffin stopped without him stopping it. But my point was, he was already preping to stop the second one.. but didn't have the time, so the one he would try to stop would be the third one.. << and that is where you Minato fans get your false Minato hype from.
