Sage Mode Jiraya > Sage Mode Naruto

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Pain specifically stated he would have lost if Jiraya had full intel, Naruto with intel couldn't even do it without Hinata's help + 6 Tails Naruto
 

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fail. no handicaped ( with fusion with toads) sm naruto>pain.
 

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Because Naruto couldn't use the frog genjutsu :|

And A>B>C logic doesn't always work.

In Jiraiya vs Naruto, take away Ma and Pa, add 1-1 giant frog and it can go either way. Actually, Naruto is better at sage mode.
 

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Couldn't Jman not even get into full sage mode while Naruto could?
 

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He shits on Naruto lol.

Has the toad techniques to go with his attacks and Naruto just has Rasengan variations.

Fusion with toads gives him Senjutsu 24/7.Naruto has perfected it is what he meant by surpassing Jirayia etc but in terms of battle Jirayia takes the cake
 

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you can't just base your argument on what one character says. Fukusaku said naruto was stronger than jiraya. Pain himself said he never fought an opponent as powerful as naruto was.

Face it SM naruto>>SM jiraya
 

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Sage Mode Jiraiya would beat the shit out of Naruto.
He's just too versatile.
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I love J-Man but no.
Simply no, for all the mentioned posts above mine.
 

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If you think sm jiraiya beats sm naruto then.. You're retarded. Current naruto decimates.
 

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if jiraya gets hit with big ball FRS its over

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Pain specifically stated he would have lost if Jiraya had full intel, Naruto with intel couldn't even do it without Hinata's help + 6 Tails Naruto

SM Jiraya was stronger that SM Naruto during the time he fought Pain, but that was because Naruto at that time had no experience using SM and had to stop his training to fight Pain. SM Naruto during the war is stronger than SM Jiraya.

naruto only has sm for 5 mins ofcourse he loses.

Naruto surpassed the 5 mintue time limit a while ago. 5 minute allowed him to create 2 normal size senjutsu FRS. After Obito was defeated Naruto created a senjutsu FRS that was atleast the size of 10 FRS combined and still maintain SM. So he can stay in it for atleast 30 minutes at a time.

 

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Because Naruto couldn't use the frog genjutsu :|

And A>B>C logic doesn't always work.

In Jiraiya vs Naruto, take away Ma and Pa, add 1-1 giant frog and it can go either way. Actually, Naruto is better at sage mode.

ill take ma and pa away but im also taking kurama away
 

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SM Jiraya was stronger that SM Naruto during the time he fought Pain, but that was because Naruto at that time had no experience using SM and had to stop his training to fight Pain. SM Naruto during the war is stronger than SM Jiraya.



Naruto surpassed the 5 mintue time limit a while ago. 5 minute allowed him to create 2 normal size senjutsu FRS. After Obito was defeated Naruto created a senjutsu FRS that was atleast the size of 10 FRS combined and still maintain SM. So he can stay in it for atleast 30 minutes at a time.


Let me Clarify:

Sage Mode Jiraya that fought Pain

Sage Mode Naruto that fought Pain

This is who were talking about
 

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Well, J-man had alot of jutsu compared to naruto. So yeah he wins due to being more versatile.
 

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if jiraya gets hit with big ball FRS its over

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ok i know i didn't clarify this before your post but this is the sage mode naruto that fought pain, its unfair to give naruto feats beyond that when Jiraya died
 
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