Sage mode in NOT the answer to controlling kyuubi?

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Oka.. I see a lot of discussion going around that Naruto's SM is the answer to controlling Kyuubi chakra?? I personally don't think so.. reason... well I am not going to go into any theories from ancient jap or mythology stuff but from what I can judge from wats going on in the manga.. there has been only 1 instance in this manga so far where we have seen naruto going kyuubi mode while he was still in SM.. that was when fighting pain.. chapter 444 pages 06-07...

At that time a few moments later, after going Kyuubi-SM we see naruto's eyes are back to normal.. chapt 444 pg 09... so this looks to me as SM and kyuubi chakra cancel each other out.. from page 07 going kyuubi-SM to page 09 coming back to normal where the hell did all the natural energy go???

If SM naruto is supposed to control kyuubi chakra.. how come going kyuubi while in SM is cancelling each other out.. It looks clearly to me he lost all his natural energy as soon as his eyes turned kyuubi.. meaning kyuubi chakra and natural energy don't go along togethor.. Yes they don't.. If there is any other explanation for this.. please let me know.. from wat I can see naruto SM just dissappears all of a sudden.. he tries to attack pain in anger but then stops.. calms down.. n his SM is goneeeeee.. why??? I don't believe his natural energy just went away like that by him calming down.. it was all just lost in an instant..

Another reason why they don't get along is caz Pa Frog cudn't fuze with naruto.. a debatable explaination cud be that he cannot fuse with naruto caz kyuubi rejects it.. why does kyuubi reject a senin like pa frog from fusing with naruto?? I suspect again caz he is filled with natural energy and kyuubi's chakra denies it..

All in all I don't think Naruto can go SM while he is using kyuubi chakra or Vice versa.. he sure can mould natural enerygy with his own chakra n go SM.. For me in a fight.. he can use either 1 at a time.. SM or kyuubi... may b in future he finds a way to control kyuubi and summon it in a fight like killerbee does with 8-tails and then go SM on his own
 
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Yes, SM is not the solution and I think doesn't relate to control the Kyuubi. I think there is a natural ability that the Senju have to control the Kyuubi and that is a big Q.
 

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Well I Do Believe Naruto Can Combined The Sage Chakra & The Kyubbi Charka Together But Only To A Certain Existent I Believe Going To Cloak Form 1-9 Will Disrupt Sage Mode But I Dont Believe Sage Mode Is The Key To Him Control Kyuubi But The Scroll Jiariya Left


There Has Been Plenty Of Times Naruto Has Gone Kyuubi And Was Able To Control It For Example

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he wasnt in sage mode when he entered 6 tails form vs pain
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And when he was facing nagato, he didnt loose control.

Im not saying that he can control or cant, just fixing ur mistakes. :p
 
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Well I Do Believe Naruto Can Combined The Sage Chakra & The Kyubbi Charka Together But Only To A Certain Existent I Believe Going To Cloak Form 1-9 Will Disrupt Sage Mode But I Dont Believe Sage Mode Is The Key To Him Control Kyuubi But The Scroll Jiariya Left


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Well the problem is.. we know that the key scroll was given to Naruto so that he can open up the seal and let out kyuubi chakra.. but he is not even able to control it going above 4-tails.. let alone opening up the whole seal and making full use of 9-tails.. So far we only know that the key scroll just contains the key to openning and closing the seal.. unless it has a jutsu in it which when completed can let the user use kyuubi chakra at will.. I don't see key scroll being of any importance in this
 

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Oka.. I see a lot of discussion going around that Naruto's SM is the answer to controlling Kyuubi chakra?? I personally don't think so.. reason... well I am not going to go into any theories from ancient jap or mythology stuff but from what I can judge from wats going on in the manga.. there has been only 1 instance in this manga so far where we have seen naruto going kyuubi mode while he was still in SM.. that was when fighting pain.. chapter 444 pages 06-07...

At that time a few moments later, after going Kyuubi-SM we see naruto's eyes are back to normal.. chapt 444 pg 09... so this looks to me as SM and kyuubi chakra cancel each other out.. from page 07 going kyuubi-SM to page 09 coming back to normal where the hell did all the natural energy go???

If SM naruto is supposed to control kyuubi chakra.. how come going kyuubi while in SM is cancelling each other out.. It looks clearly to me he lost all his natural energy as soon as his eyes turned kyuubi.. meaning kyuubi chakra and natural energy don't go along togethor.. Yes they don't.. If there is any other explanation for this.. please let me know.. from wat I can see naruto SM just dissappears all of a sudden.. he tries to attack pain in anger but then stops.. calms down.. n his SM is goneeeeee.. why??? I don't believe his natural energy just went away like that by him calming down.. it was all just lost in an instant..

Another reason why they don't get along is caz Pa Frog cudn't fuze with naruto.. a debatable explaination cud be that he cannot fuse with naruto caz kyuubi rejects it.. why does kyuubi reject a senin like pa frog from fusing with naruto?? I suspect again caz he is filled with natural energy and kyuubi's chakra denies it..

All in all I don't think Naruto can go SM while he is using kyuubi chakra or Vice versa.. he sure can mould natural enerygy with his own chakra n go SM.. For me in a fight.. he can use either 1 at a time.. SM or kyuubi... may b in future he finds a way to control kyuubi and summon it in a fight like killerbee does with 8-tails and then go SM on his own
I think there is a secret to Naruto controlling the Kyuubi, but Sage Mode is not it. I believe that it has more to do with the host synchronizing with its beast, as Killer Bee said. I personally think that Naruto will seek out Killer Bee and he will teach Naruto the secrets. They both seem to be good guys, and they are VAGUELY similar, both are goofy, powerful, seeked by Akatsuki, blah blah, blah.
 

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I don't believe so, I think SM will have some effect, or help him in controling the Kyuubi. If Naruto couldn't have Ma, and Pa frog help him out by sitting on his shoulder I'm going to say that the Kyuubi since it was the one who wouldn't let them is going to have something to do with SM, and maybe it will be him controlling it, or him gaining a new grand power.
 

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Well I Do Believe Naruto Can Combined The Sage Chakra & The Kyubbi Charka Together But Only To A Certain Existent I Believe Going To Cloak Form 1-9 Will Disrupt Sage Mode But I Dont Believe Sage Mode Is The Key To Him Control Kyuubi But The Scroll Jiariya Left


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the big problem is that he cant activate kyuubi by his own will, nor control himself even a little bit after turning into 4-tails or higher.
but i still dont see any reason for kishi to give naruto a kyuubi-control, because 2 of 4 of akatsuki are uchihas, who are able to at least surpress it.

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i think you might be right, basically it should be impossible to use the "living" kyuubi chakra and balance out the natural chakra at the same time. it would be like "looking left and right at the same time" which is impossible with kyuubi.
 
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