Sage Mode > Genjutsu

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Since in sage mode Naruto can absorb natural chakra from the surrounding area,that counts as a foreign chakra coming into the body.So that means Sage Mode > Genjutsu.

Right?
 

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Not really, once he has collected it, it is part of his chakra. Its not coming in.

Unless he has Ma and Pa.
 

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Not really, once he has collected it, it is part of his chakra. Its not coming in.

Unless he has Ma and Pa.

Then from this logic Naruto can't get out of no genjutsu since Kurama is apart of him and his chakra.
 

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Yeah they is a disturting chakra flow to prevent gen plus sage mode is nature eyes can't cheat nature it also the reason why juubi can't be put under genjutsu..
 

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Yeah they is a disturting chakra flow to prevent gen plus sage mode is nature eyes can't cheat nature it also the reason why juubi can't be put under genjutsu..

Um. . . Since when???

Natural chakra is just a raw form of chakra gathered from the life energy of the surrounding wilderness. Collecting it has no affect on genjutsu whatsoever. Naruto can easily be put in a genjutsu while in sage mode, unless Fukasaku and/or Shima is assisting him.

And as for the part about Kurama mentioned above, that's much different. Although Kurama is a part of Naruto's chakra network itself, he is STILL a separate entity. He can break a genjutsu placed on Naruto because he HIMSELF can disrupt the chakra flow and snap Naruto out of it.

Hope that answers your question.
 

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Um. . . Since when???

Natural chakra is just a raw form of chakra gathered from the life energy of the surrounding wilderness. Collecting it has no affect on genjutsu whatsoever. Naruto can easily be put in a genjutsu while in sage mode, unless Fukasaku and/or Shima is assisting him.

And as for the part about Kurama mentioned above, that's much different. Although Kurama is a part of Naruto's chakra network itself, he is STILL a separate entity. He can break a genjutsu placed on Naruto because he HIMSELF can disrupt the chakra flow and snap Naruto out of it.

Hope that answers your question.

no not at all lol sage mode is not just raw chakra it gives abilities as well plus with sage mode he can sense any form of manipulations and dude i m sure it the reason why juubi ccan't be put but kurama can be put haven't you wondered that?
 

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Nope Sage mode or not they are still susceptible to genjutsu.. Sage Mode gives you more of a chance but you still can get caught in a genjutsu which is why Kabuto closed his eyes in the fight against Itachi and Sasuke. Even a perfect jinchuriki can get caught in a genjutsu and be controlled like yagura was from obito
 

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What will happen if kurama will be placed under genjutsu like the past with madara and obite when he replaces naruto on the battlefield?
 

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Nope you are wrong. If this was the case, Kabuto wouldn't have decided to shut his eyes when fighting Sasuke and Itachi. Moreover, Naruto won't be able to meditate, concentrate and intake senjutsu chakra while he is under a genjutsu.

To break genjutsu, chakra from a separate entity must be put in the system of the one who is under the effects of genjutsu. Nature chakra is being drawn in at the same constant rate so to disturb the chakra network, that rate needs to change.
 

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Nope you are wrong. If this was the case, Kabuto wouldn't have decided to shut his eyes when fighting Sasuke and Itachi. Moreover, Naruto won't be able to meditate, concentrate and intake senjutsu chakra while he is under a genjutsu.

To break genjutsu, chakra from a separate entity must be put in the system of the one who is under the effects of genjutsu. Nature chakra is being drawn in at the same constant rate so to disturb the chakra network, that rate needs to change.

Kabuto was afraid of Itachi's Tsukoyomi, coz that's on a different level.
 

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Kabuto was afraid of Itachi's Tsukoyomi, coz that's on a different level.
Kabuto never expected Itachi to break free of edo tensei. He was grooming himself to fight against Sasuke.
 
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Sage mode can get caught in genjutsu that's why Kabuto put a lens over his eyes. Sasuke can break Itachi's genjutsu with 3 tomoe so his genjutsu (3 tomoe) should be strong enough to genjutsu sm naruto. Danzo had 9 sharingan and got caught in genjutsu.
 

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Yeah they is a disturting chakra flow to prevent gen plus sage mode is nature eyes can't cheat nature it also the reason why juubi can't be put under genjutsu..

Oh thats why??? I thought it was cause of his infinite chakra....
 

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nature's energy is different from senjutsu chakra.. its pretty clear

spiritual energy+physical energy = normal chakra

nature energy+spiritual energy+physical energy = senjutsu chakra

the point is... nature energy intake does not interrupt genjutsu because it's still raw and has not yet been 'process' or mold... senjutsu is the product of this mold and will enter into the chakra stream... on the other hand, genjutsu is a jutsu that effecting/manipulating their opponents chakra in their body through the 5 senses.... so all in all,a sage mode pretty much still can be affected by genjutsu because genjutsu can control chakra and senjutsu chakra is a type of chakra.. it isnt a surprise that kabuto blacken his eyes to counter against itachi n sasuke when he is already in sage mode
 
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SM doesnt constantly absorb chakra, so that cant happen. Genjutsu isnt chakra shooting at enemy, one uses chakra to affect the senses (if needed) nothing more.
 

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If Naruto was to run out of sage mode, or enter Sage mode, then yes because it would change his chakara flow. But don't forget that he cannot absorb to much nature energy or he'd turn into stone

SM doesnt constantly absorb chakra, so that cant happen. Genjutsu isnt chakra shooting at enemy, one uses chakra to affect the senses (if needed) nothing more.
If you change your chakara flow, then that stops genjutsu, that is exactly what happens when one is absorbing nature energy to "refill" senjutsu chakara or change from base to sage mode
 

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Tsukuyomi disagrees.
 
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