Sage Mode for Sakura? I don't think so!

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Not giving up. Lately I got bored with debating, to be honest.

Anyway... as for your second part. You're basing all this on the Frog Sage Mode requirements. Not all SM have the same requirements.
As for Sakura's chakra reserves, they have never been bad to begin with. Now with the addition of Byakugo seal, she could meet the requirements quite simple. Unleash the seal, let all the chakra go into her body, gather Natural Energy and voila. That's it. And where do you get the idea that the seal will not always be there? The seal is there to stay.
Once again, as I said, you base your presumptions on FSM, whereas we don't know what SSM would require so that we can establish that the potential is not there.
Alright fine. We'll end the debate in a peaceful truce. Looks like we won't know until it happens...And until we know we can't say anything anyone said is true...
 
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Alright fine. We'll end the debate in a peaceful truce. Looks like we won't know until it happens...And until we know we can't say anything anyone said is true...
Then truce be it! :) And indeed, until it happens all we do is theorize.

@iNotorious: Shikkotsurin is the 3rd magic place where one can acquire SM. It doesn't take a genius to figure out that it's SSM.
 

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My main question is, do slug sage mode even exist? if so , give me some scans.
Not confirmed no, but we can presume it exists, why?

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Shikkotsu Forest is linked with slugs, and, according to Kabuto is equally famous as Mount Myoboku and Cave Ryuchidou.
So if you can learn Sage mode in those places, you can also learn it in Shikkotsu Forest ;) .
 
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Then truce be it! :) And indeed, until it happens all we do is theorize.

@iNotorious: Shikkotsurin is the 3rd magic place where one can acquire SM. It doesn't take a genius to figure out that it's SSM.
Like i said, i need scans, by the way, if the SM even exist, why tsunade doesn't have it? because she might pass every requirement.. that chakra pool.
 

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Like i said, i need scans, by the way, if the SM even exist, why tsunade doesn't have it? because she might pass every requirement.. that chakra pool.
Look at Keimil's post.
As for why Tsunade doesn't have it, that's a thing Kishi will respond for sure. Maybe she wasn't able to master it due to certain conditions that might be necessary to accomplish and Tsunade couldn't but Sakura could. As simple as that.
 

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Here is why she can't learn SM (Kishi doesn't care about logic too, he'd make it happen if he ever want to)

You need to have a large chakra pool

You need it at the time that you are training to achieve it


You still don't see why ?

At the time of the training

She can't use her seal every other day (it wouldn't have a lot chakra in it) so let's say she use the seal today to learn SM. So what ? She'll get a full day of SM training at best.

But what about the other weeks/months of training to come ?

She'd never be able to maintain the increase of chakra brought by the Yin seal long enough to be able to train and master SM
 

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Here is why she can't learn SM (Kishi doesn't care about logic too, he'd make it happen if he ever want to)

You need to have a large chakra pool

You need it at the time that you are training to achieve it


You still don't see why ?

At the time of the training

She can't use her seal every other day (it wouldn't have a lot chakra in it) so let's say she use the seal today to learn SM. So what ? She'll get a full day of SM training at best.

But what about the other weeks/months of training to come ?

She'd never be able to maintain the increase of chakra brought by the Yin seal long enough to be able to train and master SM
The slugs SM if it exists (which is pretty much confirmed now) will be related to the seal as the slugs are directly connected to the seal itself.

If kishi wants it he can pull it off. Frog SM is about large chakra pool and snakes are all about the strong body thing. My guess is that the slugs require something different.
 

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This again, she has the seal, it took 3 years to make, the chakra inside is vast, vast chakra won't hurt her because if that was the case her leasing the seal would damage her chakra network. She has the chakra control to manage it too. And Jirayah had it, he was a strong bodied person like Tsunade, Naruto, hashirama, and mito
The slugs SM if it exists (which is pretty much confirmed now) will be related to the seal as the slugs are directly connected to the seal itself.

If kishi wants it he can pull it off. Frog SM is about large chakra pool and snakes are all about the strong body thing. My guess is that the slugs require something different.
I like where your going with this, chakra = soul. Body= body. Yin seal= mind and then it can be like a real trinity with the whole mind body and soul thing.
 
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The slugs SM if it exists (which is pretty much confirmed now) will be related to the seal as the slugs are directly connected to the seal itself.

If kishi wants it he can pull it off. Frog SM is about large chakra pool and snakes are all about the strong body thing. My guess is that the slugs require something different.
Hm what.

So you are saying that only Tsunade and Sakura can summon Katsuyu.

Yeah, right.

The seal just allow them to summon more of Katsuyu. Because of the increase in chakra they get.

The seal is in no way related to SM. It's about extremely precise chakra control.
 

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EVEN IF some points of the "yes she can do it" were to be true...
good luck to Sakura learning Sage Mode by training 2 minutes per month xD

she'd have to release most of the stored chakra in the seal at once just to give her the needed capacity to train it
she'd exhaust her stored chakra quite fast and then need long periods to recover it again

Nardo passed all day training, because he has natural high capacity
also Uzumaki has strong life force + fast recovery...

I'm not a Sakura hater btw, just pretty obvious SM is not for her.
 

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Hm what.

So you are saying that only Tsunade and Sakura can summon Katsuyu.

Yeah, right.

The seal just allow them to summon more of Katsuyu. Because of the increase in chakra they get.

The seal is in no way related to SM. It's about extremely precise chakra control.
I mean, Sakura could alway summon Katsuyu, but the true power lies without the connect of the seal, so the remote healing and what not. If Sakura didn't have it she probably would use Katsuyu offensively with acid and other attacks.

EVEN IF some points of the "yes she can do it" were to be true...
good luck to Sakura learning Sage Mode by training 2 minutes per month xD

she'd have to release most of the stored chakra in the seal at once just to give her the needed capacity to train it
she'd exhaust her stored chakra quite fast and then need long periods to recover it again

Nardo passed all day training, because he has natural high capacity
also Uzumaki has strong life force + fast recovery...

I'm not a Sakura hater btw, just pretty obvious SM is not for her.
Sakura doesn't really need training , her perfect chakra control grants her the ability to instantly learn jutsu, and master them, as seen with her recent abilities and the tree climbing
 

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I mean, Sakura could alway summon Katsuyu, but the true power lies without the connect of the seal, so the remote healing and what not. If Sakura didn't have it she probably would use Katsuyu offensively with acid and other attacks.


Sakura doesn't really need training , her perfect chakra control grants her the ability to instantly learn jutsu, and master them, as seen with her recent abilities and the tree climbing
All SM users had to train their bodies to handle nature energy so it's not just something someone can learn by having perfect chakra control.
 

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She doesn't even have the chakra levels to learn it.

Maybe she can use Sm once every 3years when she has gathered enough chakra XD
Chakra can get restored in about 3 days all she needs to do it eat and rest. Tsunade showed this. I. Think it's a part of her system now and she metabolizes accordingly, so she should be greatly enhanced.
And the seal may serve as a natural energy channel like when she send chakra to Katsuyu, Katsuyu should be about to do the same with her, in theory

All SM users had to train their bodies to handle nature energy so it's not just something someone can learn by having perfect chakra control.
No of the sage mode users was as good as Sakura, except Kabuto maybe, and look at him he didn't really train now did he, he just got the body and went about.
 
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I mean, Sakura could alway summon Katsuyu, but the true power lies without the connect of the seal, so the remote healing and what not. If Sakura didn't have it she probably would use Katsuyu offensively with acid and other attacks.


Sakura doesn't really need training , her perfect chakra control grants her the ability to instantly learn jutsu, and master them, as seen with her recent abilities and the tree climbing
Her chakra control alone doesn't matter. She needs that large chakra pool and she doesn't have it. Kakashi said so in part 1, he said both Naruto and Sasuke had more chakra but she was just skilled at using hers effectively;

And
since they closed the other thread, I wonder who were the fodders Iruka was teaching were :yeah:
 

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Sakura doesn't really need training , her perfect chakra control grants her the ability to instantly learn jutsu, and master them, as seen with her recent abilities and the tree climbing
even Kabuto with all his "add-ons" had to train for it, and he probably has a better chakra control than Sakura :|
if not better, at least pretty close to same level of control

if she tries to use SM without training her chances of turning into a stone are pretty damn high
doesn't matter how good her chakra control is if she hardly knows what to do
also she needs to learn how to feel natural chakra
 

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Chakra can get restored in about 3 days all she needs to do it eat and rest. Tsunade showed this. I. Think it's a part of her system now and she metabolizes accordingly, so she should be greatly enhanced.
And the seal may serve as a natural energy channel like when she send chakra to Katsuyu, Katsuyu should be about to do the same with her, in theory



No of the sage mode users was as good as Sakura, except Kabuto maybe, and look at him he didn't really train now did he, he just got the body and went about.
Chakra control alone won't help you learn something like Sage Mode,you need to train your body and have above average chakra reserves otherwise it won't work.
 
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