Sage/Fox integration.

[Scary Yamato]

I have to agree that kishi wont use the same "frequency" trick twice. Now he MAY make it where naruto can sense when Madara is about to teleport by feeling it through his chakra, BUT anyone can also see when madra is teleporting because of the mini-black hole swirl effect.

IMO the teleporting isnt naruto's biggest problem... its the intangibility of madra. The frog Katas may come into play here because it was stated that you dont even need to hit someone for them to be effected by the frog katas.

Focusing on how madara's intagibility works and how to overcome it can be our next topic/scientific argument

 

[Honord Sage]

I have to agree that kishi wont use the same "frequency" trick twice. Now he MAY make it where naruto can sense when Madara is about to teleport by feeling it through his chakra, BUT anyone can also see when madra is teleporting because of the mini-black hole swirl effect.

IMO the teleporting isnt naruto's biggest problem... its the intangibility of madra. The frog Katas may come into play here because it was stated that you dont even need to hit someone for them to be effected by the frog katas.

Focusing on how madara's intagibility works and how to overcome it can be our next topic/scientific argument

True Frog katas do not need to hit you point blank to affect you like a shock wave only needs glance you to affect you. That Naruto has a wind Nature also comes in handy if He can learn to toss air waves at something to detected changes in the patterns of wind in the air that Maybe Madara disrupt as He solidifies.

 

[nejihyuga77777777]

True Frog katas do not need to hit you point blank to affect you like a shock wave only needs glance you to affect you. That Naruto has a wind Nature also comes in handy if He can learn to toss air waves at something to detected changes in the patterns of wind in the air that Maybe Madara disrupt as He solidifies.

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[silenceofthelambs]

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If you don't want to read his posts, you can skip them, can't you? But don't go out of your way to insult him simply for wrongs you think he committed, which are not even serious at all. He has just as much a right to discuss on this forum as you do. No one has told you to silence yourself, so why say the same for others? And as a matter of fact, his ideas are interesting, they are the source of several discussions on this forum. There's no need to instigate hostilities (there are plenty already), and if you don't like reading his posts, quite frankly that's your problem. But of course there is a simple solution: don't read them.

 

[silenceofthelambs]

True Frog katas do not need to hit you point blank to affect you like a shock wave only needs glance you to affect you. That Naruto has a wind Nature also comes in handy if He can learn to toss air waves at something to detected changes in the patterns of wind in the air that Maybe Madara disrupt as He solidifies.

That's possible, but in the heat of battle, our minds tend to think differently than they do now. When we look back at things we've done in contemplation, we find that there are many different alternatives (even better) we could have chosen to handle a certain situation. As an old Apache saying goes, "there are many paths to the same place."

 

[uzamaki2223]

That's possible, but in the heat of battle, our minds tend to think differently than they do now. When we look back at things we've done in contemplation, we find that there are many different alternatives (even better) we could have chosen to handle a certain situation. As an old Apache saying goes, "there are many paths to the same place."

well actually a soldier, warrior, etc. has certain fundamentals that make he/she great, be reality or manga. One of the most important of those fundamentals is the ability to be analytical on the battlefield. Personally, i think that naruto is one of the best at this. Just look back to when naruto fought against kabuto in the fight w/ the sannin. He was able to notice that the way he used his rasengan, or atleast the way he was taught to use it wasn't working, so he modified it to fit his particular skill set. He has also done this in several other fights, so i would think that he, if no one else, would have the ability to change his fighting style or atleast his moves, in order to counter madara's T/S jutsu.

 

[Honord Sage]

I am a 10 combat Veteran in the Army we would train by doing things over and over till it became second nature to us, We never think about it just do it, In Martial Arts( Martial-Latin for war skills) The same you practice a move to make it an auto response to a situation. In war the Man that has learn his lessons and apply them is normally the survivor of a battle.

 

[LeafDude]

i have a question, do you think that the SO6P was able 2 use sage mode?

 

[OopsWrongHole]

i have a question, do you think that the SO6P was able 2 use sage mode?

I believe he could have the potential to learn sage mode but I doubt he ever did tbhxd

 

[Scary Yamato]

i have a question, do you think that the SO6P was able 2 use sage mode?

He was probably the originator of it. Either him or the 1st hokage. Sage mode techniques are considered senjutsu, and the 1st hokage was a senju. coincidence? I think not ^_^ It would explain how he was able to overcome madara's EMS. The ability to harness nature's power to control nature (wood) itself sounds prety epic in my book.

 

[OopsWrongHole]

He was probably the originator of it. Either him or the 1st hokage. Sage mode techniques are considered senjutsu, and the 1st hokage was a senju. coincidence? I think not ^_^ It would explain how he was able to overcome madara's EMS. The ability to harness nature's power to control nature (wood) itself sounds prety epic in my book.

Actually I thought it was the frog people that tought the way of the Sage, Jiraiya learnt from the frogs, I thought it was their own power

 

[Scary Yamato]

Actually I thought it was the frog people that tought the way of the Sage, Jiraiya learnt from the frogs, I thought it was their own power

yeah they do :/ I fail. Since you turn all frogish when you use it that makes more sense. but I still think the sage of the 6 paths was aware of its presence.

 

[OopsWrongHole]

yeah they do :/ I fail. Since you turn all frogish when you use it that makes more sense. but I still think the sage of the 6 paths was aware of its presence.

Lol sorry about that, hmmm I'm not sure to be honest, I never heard anything about the Sage of the 6 Paths and the froggies

 

[Scary Yamato]

Lol sorry about that, hmmm I'm not sure to be honest, I never heard anything about the Sage of the 6 Paths and the froggies

I dont have any information to back it up or anything but I just think that as the orginator of ALL ninjitsu, he must have been able to feel the presence of natures power and even be able to harness it through meditation.... but her its all speculation

 

[Honord Sage]

Most likely The Great Toad Sage and SO6P Had lunch at one time the Toad is old.

 

[Scary Yamato]

the great toad sage must have been sage of the 6 paths' pet

 

[Honord Sage]

For all we know The SO6P might have train on Toad Mountain.

 

[Sentinel]

Madara teleportation tech works on a certain frequency, if Naruto can find that frequency, Use Sage and Fox mode to set up inferences in that frequency He can negated Madara's teleportation tech.

first off, I know I have not been in this topic befor, I did read it all, also the things that came after this quoted post

and I just have to say a couple of things at the honord sage
first off, in this post you actualy state that the tech works on the principle of frequency, and you say it in such a manner that makes it sound like you actualy have proof of it.
I agree to your statment that in real life this "everything has a frequency" theory is put forward but that also has not been completly proven yet, show me a scientific paper that details the frequency of a living cell and I take those last words back.
now as for this theory being connected to the manga, I don't think that kishi will be using complex phisical theory's to explain how jutsu's work, all the other jutsu have been explained through the manipulation of chakra.
the only time frequency came on to play was when pain was changing the frequency of the charkra he sent out to the dead body's to make them move and to make his location untracable for sencory type ninja's. and pain's manipulation of dead body's has nothing to do with space-time jutsu

nothing has been said about how any tipe of space-time jutsu work, not even the FTG tech has been explained how exactly it works, all that is known is the result of the tech, minato is teleported to the seal of his choice. and madara is capable of moving his body or parts of it to another dimention (at least that is what kakashi is theorizing, not even that was stated to be sure)

by the way, if you want to go scientific okey, I can play that game to:
if you would want to link madara's being impregnable tech to a real life phisical theory then the quantum tunneling theory from quantum mechanics is much more close to it, read up on it and dare to stil say that your frequency "proof" is closer to it.

now as for the other claims of spelling and gramer, I know I'm not always one to speak, my spelling is not perfect, english is also not my first language, but in those 2 lines that I quoted you made a big spelling mistake and 2 gramer mistakes that could have easely been spoted if you just check your post befor posting
madara's teleportation thech
interferences
he can negate (without the d at the end)
my advice, if you know your languages please take your time to check what you wrote

now I didn't intend to attack you like this, it's just that reading your posts have been difficult at times and I just want to help


now as for the real topic of this thread:
I don't think that integrating fox mode and sage mode is nececary. fox mode offers so much potential in speed and power that very few ninja that we know could hold their own against it, pain only managed to stay with it because he only had to focus his chakra in god realm and he had the rinegan. there is great potential in fox mode if you think that all the raw power he displaid in his fight against god realm is now a controled power since naruto made the foxes power his own, without the foxes will attached to it. now he should be able to focus his attacks much beter and even a god realm pain now would be blown away like it was nothing.
fox mode might help in giving naruto the chance to focus nature chakra while fighting in fox mode, his body can stay still while he fights using the chakra cloak of the fox, and thus he can focus sage chakra at that time, we have seen those big chakra hands lash out to the opponent while naruto's actual body stays still

I also belive that he would benefit in learning beter taijutsu from guy, chakra control from neji and ninjutsu from kakashi. but genjutsu just is not naruto's style, and I don't think that he needs some space-time jutsu, naruto can be in 2000 places at the same time, so he can get at madara's back anytime he wants, as long as he aproches his silently and not screaming like he did befor when they were chasing sasuke befor the sasuke vs itachi fight

 

[Honord Sage]

If I Use a taser on a person I can disrupt the natural frequency a body works, brain waves, heath rate muscle control and so forth. Both Science and Magic work on certain principle in both you must follow certain steps to make it work, interrupt any one of these steps it hinders the over all effect that was originally intended. One or more steps and it will not work teleportation tech must follow certain rules for it to work, disrupt one or more steps in Madara jutsu and it will not work. A jutsu if Science Base or Magical base or a combination of both must follow certain steps and must be done in a certain order and timing to work, if not thats the end of it.

 

[Scary Yamato]

If I Use a taser on a person I can disrupt the natural frequency a body works, brain waves, heath rate muscle control and so forth. Both Science and Magic work on certain principle in both you must follow certain steps to make it work, interrupt any one of these steps it hinders the over all effect that was originally intended. One or more steps and it will not work teleportation tech must follow certain rules for it to work, disrupt one or more steps in Madara jutsu and it will not work. A jutsu if Science Base or Magical base or a combination of both must follow certain steps and must be done in a certain order and timing to work, if not thats the end of it.

NARUTO UZIMAKE STYLE: FORBIDDEN TASER TECHNIQUE!!!! XD

*tasers madara in the back*