Sadara or Bolt, whose abilities will be stronger?

[lndra]

Yes, obviously. Part one or part two Naruto are two different entities, when we have the same statement being repeated again. Are you truly this desperate, when you have been proven wrong within the confines of the manga? Give it up. It's getting embarrassing. Naruto's chakra pool is no where near you assume it to be without Kurama.

Sigh. Chakra = Life force

Naruto being part Uzumaki means he has quite a strong body aka life force.

Yes Naruto has a lot of chakra, not enough to do the War arc obviously (In which Kurama shared his chakra throughout the army) but enough to make hundreds of clones if he wanted to.

It's plainly obvious, but I cannot understand why you continue to respond to me? What are you trying to gain by being wrong throughout every post you make to me?

 

[Xlad]

Shelke logic 101. Naruto didnt inherit any Uzumaki traits because he's only half Uzumaki. Bolt wont inherit any the byakugan or any other Hyuga and Uzumaki traits because he's only a quarter Uzumaki and half Hyuga. Sarada will however inherit the sharingan despite being a halfling herself because???

Because Tatsuya one shots.

 

[QdonEms]

Bolt wont have any special powers since he doesnt have bijuu or byakugan....The only thing he has is rasengan.
Salada still might unlock the sharingan and has sakura's strength(possibly)

 

[lndra]

Bolt wont have any special powers since he doesnt have bijuu or byakugan....The only thing he has is rasengan.
Salada still might unlock the sharingan and has sakura's strength(possibly)

He'll probably have a good amount of life force. I made a thread about the Byakugan in the Manga section here:

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Salad won't (probably) unlock Sharingan as they are in a time of peace, but she'll definitely have good chakra control for the strength techniques.
Bolt will probably get Sage Mode, and rasengan variants. Maybe more ... it won't matter though. These kids are going to be Genin and it's a short series.

 

[BlacLord™]

She won't ever unlock the Sharingan. It is a time of peace, you do know how the Sharingan activates, right?
What now?

After all, the Sharingan awakens after a great emotional stir (Sasuke) or in times of great need(Obito).

After all, the Sharingan awakens after a great emotional stir (Sasuke) or in times of great need(Obito).

After all, the Sharingan awakens after a great emotional stir (Sasuke) or in times of great need(Obito).

Naruto's different.

His finesse didn't come from pure talent like Sasuke, it was a 50/50 mix of unusual talent and hard work. So that leads Bolt to inherit that baseline talent at best. Sarada has a better probable head-start than Bolt because Sasuke's skills all derive from his talent (and being pushed forward by his rival) and Sasuke is battle-smart too. Then you have Sakura, whose chakra control is perfect and is very book-smart too.

You can't say that Bolt at his possible best is stronger than Sarada because the latter has potential for outright combat and medical ninjutsu.

Even if she is a giiiiiirl.

 

[TrollingSage]

Naruto's different.

His finesse didn't come from pure talent like Sasuke, it was a 50/50 mix of unusual talent and hard work. So that leads Bolt to inherit that baseline talent at best. Sarada has a better probable head-start than Bolt because Sasuke's skills all derive from his talent (and being pushed forward by his rival) and Sasuke is battle-smart too. Then you have Sakura, whose chakra control is perfect and is very book-smart too.

You can't say that Bolt at his possible best is stronger than Sarada because the latter has potential for outright combat and medical ninjutsu.

Even if she is a giiiiiirl.

Medical ninjutsu isn't genetic. It's learnt. Sakura brings nothing to the table in terms of genetics. Everything that makes her a better than average shinobi isnt genetic. Also I love how everyone seems to have conveniently forgotten that the Hyugas were said to have one of the best chakra control in the manga

 

[BlacLord™]

Medical ninjutsu isn't genetic. It's learnt. Sakura brings nothing to the table in terms of genetics. Everything that makes her a better than average shinobi isnt genetic. Also I love how everyone seems to have conveniently forgotten that the Hyugas were said to have one of the best chakra control in the manga

Sakura is intelligent, that is genetic.

And it's thanks to her intelligence that she was able reproduce what she was told/read effectively, so yes, she does bring something to the table.

As for your Hyuga comment, that applies when they learn Gentle Fist but since neither of the children have the Byakugan, that's very unlikely. That though, isn't a genetic trait and purely depends on the user's innate talent and skill with the aforementioned.

 

[loj]

Bolt. yep!

 

[TrollingSage]

Sakura is intelligent, that is genetic.

And it's thanks to her intelligence that she was able reproduce what she was told/read effectively, so yes, she does bring something to the table.

As for your Hyuga comment, that applies when they learn Gentle Fist but since neither of the children have the Byakugan, that's very unlikely. That though, isn't a genetic trait and purely depends on the user's innate talent.

The fact that they can learn gentle fist means they're inherently good at chakra control. Its part of the genes. Even if they don't inherit the byakugan, they could still inherit the excellent chakra control.
Also Sasuke is intelligent enough. So yea, Sasuke's children should be smart with or without Sakura's "smart" genes.

 

[lndra]

Sakura is intelligent, that is genetic.

And it's thanks to her intelligence that she was able reproduce what she was told/read effectively, so yes, she does bring something to the table.

As for your Hyuga comment, that applies when they learn Gentle Fist but since neither of the children have the Byakugan, that's very unlikely. That though, isn't a genetic trait and purely depends on the user's innate talent and skill with the aforementioned.

You should know that your parents bring nothing to the table in terms of intelligence. Both of Naruto's parents were not 'dumb' but Naruto turned out to be a prankster.

She won't be in Sasuke's league
Bolt won't be in Naruto's league.

At best we might see some shadow clones, rasengans, chidoris, and maybe a fire ball jutsu from them.

It's a short series so ...character growth? I dunno.

 

[shelke]

Shelke logic 101. Naruto didnt inherit any Uzumaki traits because he's only half Uzumaki. Bolt wont inherit any the byakugan or any other Hyuga and Uzumaki traits because he's only a quarter Uzumaki and half Hyuga. Sarada will however inherit the sharingan despite being a halfling herself because???
@OP. From a genetic standpoint Bolt rapes. Uzumaki plus Hyuga heritage. Sarada has only her Uchiha heritage. Sakura brings nothing to the table genetically. Nothing that makes her a good shinobi was inherited genetically.

Re-read my fist post. I clearly said that he should have hyuga traits at least, as Hinata is a pure-blooded Hyuga.

Sigh. Chakra = Life force

Naruto being part Uzumaki means he has quite a strong body aka life force.

Yes Naruto has a lot of chakra, not enough to do the War arc obviously (In which Kurama shared his chakra throughout the army) but enough to make hundreds of clones if he wanted to.

It's plainly obvious, but I cannot understand why you continue to respond to me? What are you trying to gain by being wrong throughout every post you make to me?

Strong life force and large chakra pool are not one and the same. The Uzumaki were known for their strong life force not their chakra volume. It's funny you should say that, that strong life force equals large chakra supply, when I gave you a scan and you rejected it for the same reasons you are peddling out now. Let's look at this Uzumaki logic:

Kushina mentioning twice that she was an exception:

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They are only know for their distinct Life force, it has nothing to do with Chakra volume:

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- Kushina mentions it.
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- Kabuto mentions it.
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- Tobirama could sense it.
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. Obito mentions it for Ashura, who was the original protortype for the strong life force and physical energy. But when the clan branched out, it simply retained the Life Force argument.

Not only that, Naruto lacks:

- Uzumaki's pure life force, as he died immediately when Kurama was pulled out.
- Doesn't have their physical traits.
- His chakra isn't distinct like the Uzumaki line. He has his father's dominant traits.

So, where is this large pool argument is coming from? Not from the manga.

Naruto:

- Base Chakra reserves - diluted Uzumaki.
- Without Kurama - no natural chakra mixing.
- High stamina - because of kurama as the manga mentions.

What are you arguing about then? You have got nothing. He can make 1000 clones without Kurama's chakra? Joke of the century.

 

[V h o]

Bolt .

 

[TrollingSage]

Re-read my fist post. I clearly said that he should have hyuga traits at least, as Hinata is a pure-blooded Hyuga.



Strong life force and large chakra pool are not one and the same. The Uzumaki were known for their strong life force not their chakra volume. It's funny you should say that, that strong life force equals large chakra supply, when I gave you a scan and you rejected it for the same reasons you are peddling out now. Let's look at this Uzumaki logic:

Kushina mentioning twice that she was an exception:

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You must be registered for see links

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You must be registered for see links

They are only know for their distinct Life force, it has nothing to do with Chakra volume:

-

You must be registered for see links

- Kushina mentions it.
-

You must be registered for see links

- Kabuto mentions it.
-

You must be registered for see links

- Tobirama could sense it.
-

You must be registered for see links

. Obito mentions it for Ashura, who was the original protortype for the strong life force and physical energy. But when the clan branched out, it simply retained the Life Force argument.

Not only that, Naruto lacks:

- Uzumaki's pure life force, as he died immediately when Kurama was pulled out.
- Doesn't have their physical traits.
- His chakra isn't distinct like the Uzumaki line. He has his father's dominant traits.

So, where is this large pool argument is coming from? Not from the manga.

Naruto:

- Base Chakra reserves - diluted Uzumaki.
- Without Kurama - no natural chakra mixing.
- High stamina - because of kurama as the manga mentions.

What are you arguing about then? You have got nothing.

the manga already made it clear that to be a jinchuriki, your chakra has to be large and strong enough to hold back the bijuu's chakra. Ergo, based on the fact that Naruto is a jinchuriki, we can safely conclude he has a large chakra pool naturally. Also your diluted uzumaki argument doesnt hold. That's not how genetics works. There's different genes for different traits like hair colour, chakra level etc. So even if Naruto didnt inherit the Uzumaki's red hair, he could still have the large chakra pool gene.
There's also the issue of recessive genes. Even if Naruto inherited nothing from his Uzumaki lineage, he could still pass them on to his son. In all what it means is that solely from a genetic potential point of view, Naruto's children have 2 very strong lineages to inherit from. Sasuke's children have 1

 

[lndra]

Re-read my fist post. I clearly said that he should have hyuga traits at least, as Hinata is a pure-blooded Hyuga.



Strong life force and large chakra pool are not one and the same. The Uzumaki were known for their strong life force not their chakra volume. It's funny you should say that, that strong life force equals large chakra supply, when I gave you a scan and you rejected it for the same reasons you are peddling out now. Let's look at this Uzumaki logic:

Kushina mentioning twice that she was an exception:

-

You must be registered for see links

-

You must be registered for see links

They are only know for their distinct Life force, it has nothing to do with Chakra volume:

-

You must be registered for see links

- Kushina mentions it.
-

You must be registered for see links

- Kabuto mentions it.
-

You must be registered for see links

- Tobirama could sense it.
-

You must be registered for see links

. Obito mentions it for Ashura, who was the original protortype for the strong life force and physical energy. But when the clan branched out, it simply retained the Life Force argument.

Not only that, Naruto lacks:

- Uzumaki's pure life force, as he died immediately when Kurama was pulled out.
- Doesn't have their physical traits.
- His chakra isn't distinct like the Uzumaki line. He has his father's dominant traits.

So, where is this large pool argument is coming from? Not from the manga.

Naruto:

- Base Chakra reserves - diluted Uzumaki.
- Without Kurama - no natural chakra mixing.
- High stamina - because of kurama as the manga mentions.

What are you arguing about then? You have got nothing. He can make 1000 clones without Kurama's chakra? Joke of the century.

I can't believe that you are still commenting. If you don't think Naruto can make clones without Kurama something is missing up there.

Didn't read. Use common sense broski.

 

[lndra]

the manga already made it clear that to be a jinchuriki, your chakra has to be large and strong enough to hold back the bijuu's chakra. Ergo, based on the fact that Naruto is a jinchuriki, we can safely conclude he has a large chakra pool naturally. Also your diluted uzumaki argument doesnt hold. That's not how genetics works. There's different genes for different traits like hair colour, chakra level etc. So even if Naruto didnt inherit the Uzumaki's red hair, he could still have the large chakra pool gene.
There's also the issue of recessive genes. Even if Naruto inherited nothing from his Uzumaki lineage, he could still pass them on to his son. In all what it means is that solely from a genetic potential point of view, Naruto's children have 2 very strong lineages to inherit from. Sasuke's children have 1

No this guy knows. He's just either trolling or very stupid. x D

 

[Ansatsuken]

Bolt sure will top Salada as he is a male character and if we take Kishi here, he will put male first before female if Salada is lucky enough

 

[Sageflash]

Bolt, 0 contest. He has the possibility of becoming a Sage, utilizing Gentle Fist, Uzumaki reserves and vitality, and possible Bijuu power usage. Not to mention possibilities of learning FTG.

Awakening the Sharingan was relatively rare even among pure blooded Uchiha, let alone a half-breed mixed with Sakura's DNA. Regardless, she'll eventually go blind. It's a dead-end.

Bolt godstomps.

 

[shelke]

the manga already made it clear that to be a jinchuriki, your chakra has to be large and strong enough to hold back the bijuu's chakra. Ergo, based on the fact that Naruto is a jinchuriki, we can safely conclude he has a large chakra pool naturally. Also your diluted uzumaki argument doesnt hold. That's not how genetics works. There's different genes for different traits like hair colour, chakra level etc. So even if Naruto didnt inherit the Uzumaki's red hair, he could still have the large chakra pool gene.
There's also the issue of recessive genes. Even if Naruto inherited nothing from his Uzumaki lineage, he could still pass them on to his son. In all what it means is that solely from a genetic potential point of view, Naruto's children have 2 very strong lineages to inherit from. Sasuke's children have 1

Kindly bother yourself to open Kabuto's scan. Firstly, I don't care about real life genetics in this thread, when this rule isn't being used for the Uzumaki line within the manga. Secondly, it's the strong chakra that is the prerequisite, not large chakra supply to become a Jin. While you are at it, you can open those Kushina scans as well. Naruto's chakra pool is big, but as big as Nagato, Kisame, Ae? I don't think so. Not even close.

 

[zeezzay]

Bolt
even Himawari stomps Sadaara unless sadaraa is the child of karin and sasuke

nyway Bolt is far the strongest in two years time he will surpass his daddy

 

[shelke]

I can't believe that you are still commenting. If you don't think Naruto can make clones without Kurama something is missing up there.

Didn't read. Use common sense broski.

A 1000 clones, when Kakashi asked Yamato to control Kurama so that he can utilize its power? I don't think, it's what the manga has stated. Your scans he can make them without Kurama? None. Your scans he has a very large chakra supply, rivaling Ae, Nagato, and Kisame? None.

- Kurama's chakra is the source of large Stamina: Kakashi / Manga.
- His chakra takes in Kurama's chakra - before KCM and BM - from the seal naturally: Jiraiya / Frog / Manga.

Scans to refute these? Zero. Then you are just a garden variety Naruto troll. Why am I not surprised? Didn't read didn't refute anything I said. It just shows your buffoonery to persist at this, that is all.