Sacrifices

[DominiqueX]

So, lately I was thinking about the wonderful game "The Last of Us" again. In case you didn't know, it's a story-driven game that pulls us into a post-apocalyptic scenario. As the player, we accompany the grown man and smuggler "Joel", as well as the young teenage-girl called "Ellie". To make a long story short, the world was destroyed by a global disease and there is no cure. Most of the people who were not infected yet, became bandits or live in small safety zones that are controlled by the military. Then it turns out that the young girl contains the key to a vaccine within her body.

I don't want to talk about the game here. Otherwise I would've posted a thread in the gaming-section. I would rather like to talk about the "message", the central point of the story of this game in general.
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Now imagine that you were in the post-apocalyptic situation that I described above. The world as you know it, is gone. Most of your family and friends died and are still dying because of this global disease. Then it turns out that the person that you love the most (could be one of your parents, your own child, your partner in love, your best friend etc.) contains the key to a vaccine in her/his body that could save mankind from extinction, but the person would have to die to give the last remaining scientists what they need.

1. Scenario:
You don't know if your beloved person would be willing to give up his/her own life in order to save mankind and you can't ask the person (for example because of a coma). Would you sacrifice him/her and could you please explain why/why not?

2. Scenario:
You know that your beloved person would be willing to give up his/her own life in order to save mankind. Would you let it happen if you had the chance to stop it and could you please explain why/why not?

3. Scenario:
It turns out that >you< carry the key to a vaccine within your body. Would you give up your own life to save what is left of mankind? And again, I would like to know the reasoning behind your choice too.
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[Muten Roshi Sama]

i never played The Last of Us !

is it a good game ? wease:

 

[Ciao]

i wouldnt sacrifice myself as a cure for a disease
sry *_*

 

[lndra]

Konan bro :lol

I got the Last of Us a few months back, and I'm actually playing the Multiplayer right now. Loving the bow work. Soloing hard.

I. No. I would ask them upfront. We don't owe the world a damn thing, especially if we don't know how great this "cure" is, and how it can be administered to the thousands (or millions) infected around the World.

II. Maybe. See like I said above, it goes back to what this cure can actually do. Theoretically if we go by the game time line, it's been about twenty years since the infection. That's just too long, the world isn't going to revert back to the way it was just because of a cure.

III. Hell no. Unless I have the cure within the first 1-3 years of the outbreak, they can suck my blowtorch.

 

[Adam Driver]

Shoutout to my favorite game :flakez:

1. Scenario:
You don't know if your beloved person would be willing to give up his/her own life in order to save mankind and you can't ask the person (for example because of a coma). Would you sacrifice him/her and could you please explain why/why not?

I'd asked if they're willing to do it, I'd respect and go with whatever they want.

2. Scenario:
You know that your beloved person would be willing to give up his/her own life in order to save mankind. Would you let it happen if you had the chance to stop it and could you please explain why/why not?

yeah I'd let them do it if they wanted to.

3. Scenario:
It turns out that >you< carry the key to a vaccine within your body. Would you give up your own life to save what is left of mankind? And again, I would like to know the reasoning behind your choice too.

No I wouldn't, in fact I'm sure I wouldn't be a very good guy in a scenario like the last of us. If I'm being honest I'd probably be someone who'd kill and use others for things I need myself or for anyone that I am close with. To be honest it's not really about being bad or good in this scenario, it's all about surviving, hunt or be hunted.

 

[Jack Spicer]

Now imagine that you were in the post-apocalyptic situation that I described above. The world as you know it, is gone. Most of your family and friends died and are still dying because of this global disease. Then it turns out that the person that you love the most (could be one of your parents, your own child, your partner in love, your best friend etc.) contains the key to a vaccine in her/his body that could save mankind from extinction, but the person would have to die to give the last remaining scientists what they need.

1. Scenario:
You don't know if your beloved person would be willing to give up his/her own life in order to save mankind and you can't ask the person (for example because of a coma). Would you sacrifice him/her and could you please explain why/why not?

2. Scenario:
You know that your beloved person would be willing to give up his/her own life in order to save mankind. Would you let it happen if you had the chance to stop it and could you please explain why/why not?

3. Scenario:
It turns out that >you< carry the key to a vaccine within your body. Would you give up your own life to save what is left of mankind? And again, I would like to know the reasoning behind your choice too.

What an interesting thread. Now, my answers are all not in that moment answers, so they may be different if this actually happened. Still, here are my logical answers.

1. Yes, if it was a coma. To me, that is a no brainer. All of these are heartbreaking, but with a coma, it is for certain. A coma is something without an exact wake up date. I would sleep somewhat better hoping that person would be okay with my choice, but I'd never know and that would be hard to swallow.

2. Heartbreaking, but yes. I'd want one amazing, final day or moment with that person. It is their life and if that would truly make them happy, as well as save the world, I think I could live with that. If I couldn't have that final moment, I would just tell them how much I cared about them and be okay. It'd hurt, but this is much better than the first scenario. In the first, I'm uncertain how they feel. With this one, I know.

3. Yes. I want to feel important to someone, as well as myself. Obviously, saving mankind is amazing, but a part of it is about gratification. I'd feel happy to know I could be useful, truly useful to myself and others.

Awesome thread! Really need to play LOS. Need a PS4 though lol

 

[DominiqueX]

First, let me thank you all a lot for your answers so far!

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i never played The Last of Us !

is it a good game ? wease:

No, it is better than "good". But that's just my opinion. You should try it out tho, or watch it on YouTube, if you don't have a PS3/PS4.

But what's your opinion on the scenarios that I presented?

Spoiler

i wouldnt sacrifice myself as a cure for a disease
sry *_*

Okay, that's absolutely understandable to me. But would you like to tell me your opinion about the other two scenarios too? if not, it's fine too. :>

Spoiler

Konan bro :lol

I got the Last of Us a few months back, and I'm actually playing the Multiplayer right now. Loving the bow work. Soloing hard.

I. No. I would ask them upfront. We don't owe the world a damn thing, especially if we don't know how great this "cure" is, and how it can be administered to the thousands (or millions) infected around the World.

II. Maybe. See like I said above, it goes back to what this cure can actually do. Theoretically if we go by the game time line, it's been about twenty years since the infection. That's just too long, the world isn't going to revert back to the way it was just because of a cure.

III. Hell no. Unless I have the cure within the first 1-3 years of the outbreak, they can suck my blowtorch.

Good to read, Indra-sama! Never tried the multiplayer, but always enjoyed the bow. ^-^
Your views on these scenarios pretty much fit with mine, I'll explain them at the bottom of this post.

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Shoutout to my favorite game :flakez:



I'd asked if they're willing to do it, I'd respect and go with whatever they want.


yeah I'd let them do it if they wanted to.


No I wouldn't, in fact I'm sure I wouldn't be a very good guy in a scenario like the last of us. If I'm being honest I'd probably be someone who'd kill and use others for things I need myself or for anyone that I am close with. To be honest it's not really about being bad or good in this scenario, it's all about surviving, hunt or be hunted.

I see, thank you. About the first scenario.. if you couldn't ask them and it was up to you, what would you do then?
Yeah, I see the reasoning behind your third answer. It's all about surviving then. But I couldn't do that myself I suppose (and hope).

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What an interesting thread. Now, my answers are all not in that moment answers, so they may be different if this actually happened. Still, here are my logical answers.

1. Yes, if it was a coma. To me, that is a no brainer. All of these are heartbreaking, but with a coma, it is for certain. A coma is something without an exact wake up date. I would sleep somewhat better hoping that person would be okay with my choice, but I'd never know and that would be hard to swallow.

2. Heartbreaking, but yes. I'd want one amazing, final day or moment with that person. It is their life and if that would truly make them happy, as well as save the world, I think I could live with that. If I couldn't have that final moment, I would just tell them how much I cared about them and be okay. It'd hurt, but this is much better than the first scenario. In the first, I'm uncertain how they feel. With this one, I know.

3. Yes. I want to feel important to someone, as well as myself. Obviously, saving mankind is amazing, but a part of it is about gratification. I'd feel happy to know I could be useful, truly useful to myself and others.

Awesome thread! Really need to play LOS. Need a PS4 though lol

Jacko! Thank you too. I hope you get a PS4 very soon then.
Of course, these answers can differ a lot from what we really would do if we actually lived in such a cruel situation.

I can see the reasoning behind your answers too. That's what I would call actions of a heroic person.
Hm, I'd like to ask you about the third scenario. You wrote that you want to feel important to someone.. but wouldn't it be "enough" (can't find a better word) to be important to a person that loves you? I mean, I can understand when someone is completely alone in such a world and would sacrifice him/herself then. But also if you had beloved friends/family or a partner? I'm just curious.
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Now I'd like to share my own views on this. Better late than never.

1. Scenario:
This is probably the hardest choice, especially if the person was in coma. I don't know what I would do, because there is always the possibility that the person wakes up someday. But if I consider the destroyed world of TLoU where medical care is a rarity, I'd probably do it and would have to deal with doubts for the rest of my life. Can't say that for sure tho.

2. Scenario:
This would be hard too. Well, to be honest, I would try everything I can to argue the person out of it, because in such a post-apocalyptic disaster, the world wouldn't return "back to normal". But if the beloved person would still want to do it and says he/she would be truly happy and okay with this, then I would probably accept it eventually. And before the person is gone forever, I would like to have one special moment with him/her too, in order to say goodbye.

These two scenarios share one aspect to me. If I were about to end up all by myself after this, I probably wouldn't keep on living. Being alone and lonely is the worst thing I can imagine.

3. Scenario:
No, I would never sacrifice myself. Like Indra said, we don't owe the world anything and the world wouldn't just turn into a paradise if there was a cure. Also there is no guarantee that the cure would actually reach all those who need it. And to be honest, mankind is full of individuals that I consider to be unworthy to be saved at all. So no reason for me to throw away my life if there is only one unworthy person that would be helped with it, no matter how many good people could be saved. I would just want to spend my life with the people I care about.

To the edge of the universe and back. Endure and survive.

 

[Deadlift]

So, lately I was thinking about the wonderful game "The Last of Us" again. In case you didn't know, it's a story-driven game that pulls us into a post-apocalyptic scenario. As the player, we accompany the grown man and smuggler "Joel", as well as the young teenage-girl called "Ellie". To make a long story short, the world was destroyed by a global disease and there is no cure. Most of the people who were not infected yet, became bandits or live in small safety zones that are controlled by the military. Then it turns out that the young girl contains the key to a vaccine within her body.

I don't want to talk about the game here. Otherwise I would've posted a thread in the gaming-section. I would rather like to talk about the "message", the central point of the story of this game in general.
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Now imagine that you were in the post-apocalyptic situation that I described above. The world as you know it, is gone. Most of your family and friends died and are still dying because of this global disease. Then it turns out that the person that you love the most (could be one of your parents, your own child, your partner in love, your best friend etc.) contains the key to a vaccine in her/his body that could save mankind from extinction, but the person would have to die to give the last remaining scientists what they need.

1. Scenario:
You don't know if your beloved person would be willing to give up his/her own life in order to save mankind and you can't ask the person (for example because of a coma). Would you sacrifice him/her and could you please explain why/why not?

2. Scenario:
You know that your beloved person would be willing to give up his/her own life in order to save mankind. Would you let it happen if you had the chance to stop it and could you please explain why/why not?

3. Scenario:
It turns out that >you< carry the key to a vaccine within your body. Would you give up your own life to save what is left of mankind? And again, I would like to know the reasoning behind your choice too.
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Scenario 1: It's sad but yes, after a night of struggles I'd give her life if the life of others is granted for safe. It would be painful, but if it's the only think we can do, I'd stop the life of that person. It's unjust to let one live on the death of everybody else, and if that person would eventually awaken from coma, she'd hate him/herself and me for my bad mistake.

Scenario 2: Still yes, for the same reason as Scenario 1. I'd be there to give motivation to her and I'd hug her all the time, but I won't do anything to stop her decision. I'm not anyone for threatening the life of every human of the world for my caprice.

Scenario 3: Once again yes, I'd give my life without thinking twice. I've always loved heroic deaths, and if I can save the whole mankind, I'd greet death with a smile in my face.

 

[Jack Spicer]

Jacko! Thank you too. I hope you get a PS4 very soon then.
Of course, these answers can differ a lot from what we really would do if we actually lived in such a cruel situation.

I can see the reasoning behind your answers too. That's what I would call actions of a heroic person.
Hm, I'd like to ask you about the third scenario. You wrote that you want to feel important to someone.. but wouldn't it be "enough" (can't find a better word) to be important to a person that loves you? I mean, I can understand when someone is completely alone in such a world and would sacrifice him/herself then. But also if you had beloved friends/family or a partner? I'm just curious.
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Now I'd like to share my own views on this. Better late than never.

1. Scenario:
This is probably the hardest choice, especially if the person was in coma. I don't know what I would do, because there is always the possibility that the person wakes up someday. But if I consider the destroyed world of TLoU where medical care is a rarity, I'd probably do it and would have to deal with doubts for the rest of my life. Can't say that for sure tho.

2. Scenario:
This would be hard too. Well, to be honest, I would try everything I can to argue the person out of it, because in such a post-apocalyptic disaster, the world wouldn't return "back to normal". But if the beloved person would still want to do it and says he/she would be truly happy and okay with this, then I would probably accept it eventually. And before the person is gone forever, I would like to have one special moment with him/her too, in order to say goodbye.

These two scenarios share one aspect to me. If I were about to end up all by myself after this, I probably wouldn't keep on living. Being alone and lonely is the worst thing I can imagine.

3. Scenario:
No, I would never sacrifice myself. Like Indra said, we don't owe the world anything and the world wouldn't just turn into a paradise if there was a cure. Also there is no guarantee that the cure would actually reach all those who need it. And to be honest, mankind is full of individuals that I consider to be unworthy to be saved at all. So no reason for me to throw away my life if there is only one unworthy person that would be helped with it, no matter how many good people could be saved. I would just want to spend my life with the people I care about.

To the edge of the universe and back. Endure and survive.

Heroic? Doesn't have the same ring to it as Evil Boy Genius

My problem is I can't think of this one person who I can love undoubtedly. Like, the closest person I can think of is my mom, but even then, I can't think of someone on that level. That must be insane to hear. I say I love you to my mom because she says it to me and it'd be rude not to. It's not that I don't love her, our relationship is better than ever, but something is wrong with me in that I don't have the same undying love. I don't love myself and am so jaded with other people, I can't think of this scenario. Yeah, I love my family, but the scary thing is I can think of a world without them. I've never had somebody close to me die before, so maybe that will shock me into a different state of mind regarding this, but I just feel disconnected. As for friends or partners, nobody. I have nobody, but the thing is that I would do this for anybody, even a complete stranger if I thought that person was good. I am complicated, but I think that is one thing I can say without hesitating. Maybe I view my life so pointless and hold so many others to a high standard that I either don't care or care too much. Jeez, I feel like I've made this thread too depressing lol

I feel like I'm someone who is always longing something. Some form of usefulness I haven't experienced yet. I imagine if I did experience that usefulness in the form of having this undying love for a friend or family member or partner, I'd be having a different conversation, but because I just can't picture it, it is hard to say.

It is crazy. I say all of this, yet I'm so emotional. I care so much about emotions, yet can't feel true love. I just can't comprehend it when it involves me. I can with other people and fictional characters, but just not with me.


As for your scenarios, I love how similar our number two is, yet how different our number three is. Part of me believes how truly evil mankind is and wishes prisons were just empty and the death penalty was swift and current to rid the world of monsters and focus on the good people. That is bad to say, most would say. At the same time, I have this hope for the world that good can triumph. Its funny. I don't care about the world at all for after I die in regards to pollution or whatever. Don't care about space travel or anything, but if I could save one good person at the cost of my life, I would. To me, it isn't about the humanity, mankind. It is about the one person, man, woman, child that I can save right now.

I hope some of this made sense. I feel like I have so many different wheels turning in this crazy thought process of mine. Hopefully it formed something comprehensible.

 

[Deadlift]

Very delusional that there are people who would let anyone in the planet die because they aren't in the mood to sacrifice their own life. This is pretty dangerous

 

[Jack Spicer]

Very delusional that there are people who would let anyone in the planet die because they aren't in the mood to sacrifice their own life. This is pretty dangerous

Everybody has their reasons. We aren't guaranteed on after life. Sometimes getting a few years or the rest of your life with a love one/ones is worth it. The needs of the few can outweigh the needs of the many. I completely understand that.

Now, if someone just isn't in the mood lol, that's different.

 

[Deadlift]

Everybody has their reasons. We aren't guaranteed on after life. Sometimes getting a few years or the rest of your life with a love one/ones is worth it. The needs of the few can outweigh the needs of the many. I completely understand that.

Now, if someone just isn't in the mood lol, that's different.

This is not about afterlife. If afterlife exists you'll be well rewarded for the heroic act you've done. If it doesn't exist, you're condemning billions of human beings to the complete nothing because you prefer to live other 10 years completely alone rather than sacrifice yourself for a good reason and let everyone else live in peace.
I believe in afterlife, but it wouldn't affect my choice in any way.
But such egoistical behaviors drive me crazy

 

[Jazzy Stardust]

I. I definitely wouldn't let them kill her if she's been in a coma the whole time. She would have to give consent, and until she was able to I'd murder anyone who tried to kill her.

II. I would definitely be depressed but I guess I would just try to make the best of the time we have together. I wouldn't bother trying to talk her out of it if she made that huge decision already. After she died and if she did save humanity it would be pretty hard to exist in the world, especially one that she saved. It would be super depressing and lonely but I would rather respect her decision because I respect her.

III. Die for a better world that I won't be apart of? Probably not.

 

[Kishi Uzumaki]

1. Scenario:
You don't know if your beloved person would be willing to give up his/her own life in order to save mankind and you can't ask the person (for example because of a coma). Would you sacrifice him/her and could you please explain why/why not?

if there's a chance for them to wake up from it not gonna give up but if there isn't then i don't think, it's a good thing to risk everyone elses's lives

2. Scenario:
You know that your beloved person would be willing to give up his/her own life in order to save mankind. Would you let it happen if you had the chance to stop it and could you please explain why/why not?

i gonna promise them i gonna find a way and will try my best to find that way to do it without losing him/her .

3. Scenario:
It turns out that >you< carry the key to a vaccine within your body. Would you give up your own life to save what is left of mankind? And again, I would like to know the reasoning behind your choice too.

gonna try to find another way, if there's no choice then whatelse i can do .

 

[DominiqueX]

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Heroic? Doesn't have the same ring to it as Evil Boy Genius

My problem is I can't think of this one person who I can love undoubtedly. Like, the closest person I can think of is my mom, but even then, I can't think of someone on that level. That must be insane to hear. I say I love you to my mom because she says it to me and it'd be rude not to. It's not that I don't love her, our relationship is better than ever, but something is wrong with me in that I don't have the same undying love. I don't love myself and am so jaded with other people, I can't think of this scenario. Yeah, I love my family, but the scary thing is I can think of a world without them. I've never had somebody close to me die before, so maybe that will shock me into a different state of mind regarding this, but I just feel disconnected. As for friends or partners, nobody. I have nobody, but the thing is that I would do this for anybody, even a complete stranger if I thought that person was good. I am complicated, but I think that is one thing I can say without hesitating. Maybe I view my life so pointless and hold so many others to a high standard that I either don't care or care too much. Jeez, I feel like I've made this thread too depressing lol

I feel like I'm someone who is always longing something. Some form of usefulness I haven't experienced yet. I imagine if I did experience that usefulness in the form of having this undying love for a friend or family member or partner, I'd be having a different conversation, but because I just can't picture it, it is hard to say.

It is crazy. I say all of this, yet I'm so emotional. I care so much about emotions, yet can't feel true love. I just can't comprehend it when it involves me. I can with other people and fictional characters, but just not with me.


As for your scenarios, I love how similar our number two is, yet how different our number three is. Part of me believes how truly evil mankind is and wishes prisons were just empty and the death penalty was swift and current to rid the world of monsters and focus on the good people. That is bad to say, most would say. At the same time, I have this hope for the world that good can triumph. Its funny. I don't care about the world at all for after I die in regards to pollution or whatever. Don't care about space travel or anything, but if I could save one good person at the cost of my life, I would. To me, it isn't about the humanity, mankind. It is about the one person, man, woman, child that I can save right now.

I hope some of this made sense. I feel like I have so many different wheels turning in this crazy thought process of mine. Hopefully it formed something comprehensible.

You surprise me every time with your posts. This one made me thinking a lot today and I think I understand your point of view now. Thanks for giving me, as well as all others that read here, insight to your soul.
It's sad that you feel that way about yourself and true love that includes you ._. I don't really know what else to say, but one thing. It needs a lot of hope and courage to be willing to do these things.
:hug:

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Scenario 1: It's sad but yes, after a night of struggles I'd give her life if the life of others is granted for safe. It would be painful, but if it's the only think we can do, I'd stop the life of that person. It's unjust to let one live on the death of everybody else, and if that person would eventually awaken from coma, she'd hate him/herself and me for my bad mistake.

Scenario 2: Still yes, for the same reason as Scenario 1. I'd be there to give motivation to her and I'd hug her all the time, but I won't do anything to stop her decision. I'm not anyone for threatening the life of every human of the world for my caprice.

Scenario 3: Once again yes, I'd give my life without thinking twice. I've always loved heroic deaths, and if I can save the whole mankind, I'd greet death with a smile in my face.
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Very delusional that there are people who would let anyone in the planet die because they aren't in the mood to sacrifice their own life. This is pretty dangerous
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This is not about afterlife. If afterlife exists you'll be well rewarded for the heroic act you've done. If it doesn't exist, you're condemning billions of human beings to the complete nothing because you prefer to live other 10 years completely alone rather than sacrifice yourself for a good reason and let everyone else live in peace.
I believe in afterlife, but it wouldn't affect my choice in any way.
But such egoistical behaviors drive me crazy

@Bold
This isn't about "the mood", lol.
It's that I don't want to save those humans who deserve to die in my opinion.. rapists, murderer and many more. In general, those people who truly succeed in life are the bad ones. So why should I give my life to save them? Let's be honest.. the human species is not worth to be saved, we are just one more failed species in the history of our planet. "Mother Earth" would be better off if mankind goes extinct. Humans like to view themselves as more important than they truly are.

But thanks for sharing your opinion tho.

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I. I definitely wouldn't let them kill her if she's been in a coma the whole time. She would have to give consent, and until she was able to I'd murder anyone who tried to kill her.

II. I would definitely be depressed but I guess I would just try to make the best of the time we have together. I wouldn't bother trying to talk her out of it if she made that huge decision already. After she died and if she did save humanity it would be pretty hard to exist in the world, especially one that she saved. It would be super depressing and lonely but I would rather respect her decision because I respect her.

III. Die for a better world that I won't be apart of? Probably not.

Your first one sounds harsh, but I understand the reasoning. It's some kind of self-defence if the scientists or whoever else becomes aggressive first. Thank you for letting us know :>

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1. Scenario:
if there's a chance for them to wake up from it not gonna give up but if there isn't then i don't think, it's a good thing to risk everyone elses's lives

2. Scenario:
i gonna promise them i gonna find a way and will try my best to find that way to do it without losing him/her .

3. Scenario:
gonna try to find another way, if there's no choice then whatelse i can do .

I see. Yeah your second scenario is similar to mine in it's core. And if I understand correctly.. then you would sacrifice yourself in the third scenario if there is is no other way? Thanks for sharing, it's really interesting.

 

[Deadlift]

@Bold
This isn't about "the mood", lol.
It's that I don't want to save those humans who deserve to die in my opinion.. rapists, murderer and many more. In general, those people who truly succeed in life are the bad ones. So why should I give my life to save them? Let's be honest.. the human species is not worth to be saved, we are just one more failed species in the history of our planet. "Mother Earth" would be better off if mankind goes extinct. Humans like to view themselves as more important than they truly are.

But thanks for sharing your opinion tho.

When Hashirama finally managed to defeat Madara, he said: "Anyone who tries to threaten the village, he won't be spared. Friend, brother, or even my son". That's what I'm feeling right now.
We can't decide who deserves to die and who deserves to live. Everyone walks his own path, with joy, pain, successes and errors, it's normal for we are humans, and we can decide only for ourselves.
And for the other people, you see them as you see yourself. I can grant you that people are not all bad, we have everyday examples of the opposite. Look at people like Gandhi, Kyle Carpenter, Steve Cook and James Blunt (yes, that). I see more positive people around me than negative ones, and I'm not a naive child (anymore. at least). So you can make sure that you're not the only human being who's worth saving.

 

[Yubel]

No, no and no. There won't be any sacrifices.

 

[shelke]

No for all of them. Sacrifice is promoted by the society. The notion of nobility associated with it is also created by it because most people love the idea of sacrificial lambs. I would never let a loved one die. Their life is far more valuable to me than the whole world. Billions be banned. I don’t know them and I don’t owe them any sacrifices.

A world is built on small, limited perspectives. Putting your faith in heroism means you once again let society be the judge of your fate as you gave in to the dogmas and indoctrination. I would never kill myself for anyone other than my family. Life is short and its experiences are subjective. Death is the “final” unknown, and to jump into because society thinks it is noble? It sounds really stupid to me.

So, no for all.

 

[Chie]

Now imagine that you were in the post-apocalyptic situation that I described above. The world as you know it, is gone. Most of your family and friends died and are still dying because of this global disease. Then it turns out that the person that you love the most (could be one of your parents, your own child, your partner in love, your best friend etc.) contains the key to a vaccine in her/his body that could save mankind from extinction, but the person would have to die to give the last remaining scientists what they need.

1. Scenario:
You don't know if your beloved person would be willing to give up his/her own life in order to save mankind and you can't ask the person (for example because of a coma). Would you sacrifice him/her and could you please explain why/why not?

I love my parents the most and would never give up their life w/o their consent, it's not my decision to make in the first place. What they do with their lives is up to them alone.

no

2. Scenario:
You know that your beloved person would be willing to give up his/her own life in order to save mankind. Would you let it happen if you had the chance to stop it and could you please explain why/why not?

Well, as this is a relationship with my parents I don't exactly have the right to order them around (unlike if this were a brother, child, etc) and tell them no. But, I would strongly urge them against it as I would rather have them alive than die for people we barely know.

Honestly, neither of my parents would do this- they'd prefer that we live together as a family.

no

3. Scenario:
It turns out that >you< carry the key to a vaccine within your body. Would you give up your own life to save what is left of mankind? And again, I would like to know the reasoning behind your choice too.

In the original post, it's mentioned most family and friends are dead or dying. But if I could save some of my family and very close friends, then I suppose I would do it (the few that are not dead or barely still alive).

yes

 

[Deadlift]

No for all of them. Sacrifice is promoted by the society. The notion of nobility associated with it is also created by it because most people love the idea of sacrificial lambs. I would never let a loved one die. Their life is far more valuable to me than the whole world. Billions be banned. I don’t know them and I don’t owe them any sacrifices.

A world is built on small, limited perspectives. Putting your faith in heroism means you once again let society be the judge of your fate as you gave in to the dogmas and indoctrination. I would never kill myself for anyone other than my family. Life is short and its experiences are subjective. Death is the “final” unknown, and to jump into because society thinks it is noble? It sounds really stupid to me.

So, no for all.

This is not about heroism. It's about having the possibility to protect everyone and not doing it due to a caprice.
You spouted a very well sounding nonsense that can be summarized in one single word: cowardice. What a shame...