[VS] sabo vs marco

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Marco wins with either high-Extreme diff simply because he can regenerate from any damage he receives for an unknown amount of time that's it.

Anyone saying Marco has good offensive feats aren't looking at his feats right. Marco never even harmed Kizaru with his kicks, he alone didn't harm Akainu so Idk why people acting like Vista didn't have a hand. And even still the damage was minimal and this was after witnessing one of there comrades getting magma fisted.

Sabo deserves the win but he can't have it because of that cheap no limit fallacy that Marcos DF grants. It has to have some limit.
 

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Marco wins with either high-Extreme diff simply because he can regenerate from any damage he receives for an unknown amount of time that's it.

Anyone saying Marco has good offensive feats aren't looking at his feats right. Marco never even harmed Kizaru with his kicks, he alone didn't harm Akainu so Idk why people acting like Vista didn't have a hand. And even still the damage was minimal and this was after witnessing one of there comrades getting magma fisted.

Sabo deserves the win but he can't have it because of that cheap no limit fallacy that Marcos DF grants. It has to have some limit.
lol @ bold. Its limit is most likely linked to Marco's own stamina. And Marco probably has top tier stamina so it would take a long time. Im assuming if you can outlast Marco's attacks long enough (maybe days) you can help reach his limit but not only that the more potent the attack the more energy it probably takes Marco to regenerate.

Here is the problem. Whenever Marco is involved everybody acts like he's gonna stand still and tank attacks like he's tied down or something, he is one of the fastest characters he won't get hit that much, and when he does get hit occasionally he regenerates, quite the OP mix, I can only see Admirals and Yonkou fighting him to its end but Sabo is not far off (clearly using his newfound DF had him tired early against Fujitora so I definitely think Sabo is not bringing Marco to his limit).

I'll also add in he tanked lasers from Kizaru while he was being weakened from sea stone cuffs, he went on to fight even after this so he's certainly not a pushover regardless.
 
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lol @ bold. Its limit is most likely linked to Marco's own stamina. And Marco probably has top tier stamina so it would take a long time. Im assuming if you can outlast Marco's attacks long enough (maybe days) you can help reach his limit but not only that the more potent the attack the more energy it probably takes Marco to regenerate.

Here is the problem. Whenever Marco is involved everybody acts like he's gonna stand still and tank attacks like he's tied down or something, he is one of the fastest characters he won't get hit that much, and when he does get hit occasionally he regenerates, quite the OP mix, I can only see Admirals and Yonkou fighting him to its end but Sabo is not far off (clearly using his newfound DF had him tired early against Fujitora so I definitely think Sabo is not bringing Marco to his limit).

I'll also add in he tanked lasers from Kizaru while he was being weakened from sea stone cuffs, he went on to fight even after this so he's certainly not a pushover regardless.
It could be linked to his stamina or it could not. I'm not going to assume it is because the odds of us seeing Marco fight someone for days is low. Also I don't think Admirals/Yonkos are the only people who can handle Marco. We still got Beckman and the other Yonko FM who haven't done anything yet but should still be close to Marco. I don't see why Marco has to be put on some high pedestal away from other Yonko FMs or Sabo.
 

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LMAO why do people think Marco got stronger after ts? Marco already had haki and most likely maxxed his df power out he's isn't getting any stronger over 2years.
 

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It could be linked to his stamina or it could not. I'm not going to assume it is because the odds of us seeing Marco fight someone for days is low. Also I don't think Admirals/Yonkos are the only people who can handle Marco. We still got Beckman and the other Yonko FM who haven't done anything yet but should still be close to Marco. I don't see why Marco has to be put on some high pedestal away from other Yonko FMs or Sabo.
Ofcourse those guys as well. But Marco has a pretty hax advantage, so they probably make that up with better Haki, still I'd most likely favour Marco against them cause of this (just like I favour Law against any one on his tier including Luffy), one thing though I've always felt Ben Beckman was the strongest Yonko FM, not sure how well he'd fare with a gun though.

LMAO why do people think Marco got stronger after ts? Marco already had haki and most likely maxxed his df power out he's isn't getting any stronger over 2years.
I don't know why as well. People are acting like all the top tiers went through some training. Most these guys have already hit their peaks, Law's speech didn't really wake anyone up I guess.
 

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Ofcourse those guys as well. But Marco has a pretty hax advantage, so they probably make that up with better Haki, still I'd most likely favour Marco against them cause of this (just like I favour Law against any one on his tier including Luffy), one thing though I've always felt Ben Beckman was the strongest Yonko FM, not sure how well he'd fare with a gun though.



I don't know why as well. People are acting like all the top tiers went through some training. Most these guys have already hit their peaks, Law's speech didn't really wake anyone up I guess.
Yeah I too think Beckman is the strongest Yonko FM, its just some feeling I have. Also I don't think Marco got stronger after the TS either.

Implying he has would mean he's going to be taking the spotlight from the SN considering that if he keeps growing, how will the SN overtake the old gen? Its like the Yonko getting stronger after TS. The SN should have more potential.
 

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Did they....Did they really.
Only way they are gonna be on the level of people like Garp (unless they are supposed to be bunch of kids compared to Garp and sengoku).. is to get a power increase. Its is quite naive to assume Akainu didn't get stronger, especially now that hes a fleet admiral.
 

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One was fighting to protect his brother from an admiral in the hunt, he fought in a serious mode to prevent what happened two years ago not to mention that he never knew Fujitora intentions in DR while the admiral was fighting in a sloppy way as cited by Sabo itself, he was mostly blocking himself by Sabo just to let the SHs put an end to Doflamingos mass murder scheme, u cant say the two fighters were completely non-serious because as I said intentions were completely different and the one who walked away unscathed was the admiral while the other despite all this moved away in scratches, u cant compare Sabo to admirals currently that's beyond illogical, the only time he is fighting a full-fledged top-tier and pulling out a win or draw is by EoS while Marco has showed to be way more close to these guys than Sabo.
 
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One was fighting to protect his brother from an admiral in the hunt, he fought in a serious mode to prevent what happened two years ago not to mention that he never knew Fujitora intentions in DR while the admiral was fighting in a sloppy way as cited by Sabo itself, he was mostly blocking himself by Sabo just to let the SHs put an end to Doflamingos mass murder scheme, u cant say the two fighters were completely non-serious because as I said intentions were completely different and the one who walked away unscathed was the admiral while the other despite all this moved away in scratches, u cant compare Sabo to admirals currently that's beyond illogical, the only time he is fighting a full-fledged top-tier and pulling out a win or draw is by EoS while Marco has showed to be way more close to these guys than Sabo.
The fact Sabo was using his DF, and not a fighting style he would use normally.. kind of does mean he wasn't fully serious. And Why would he be serious to fight a guy who isn't hurting him? makes no sense.
 

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Akainu got stronger based off what? Being Fleet admiral? There is no real difference in fleet admiral than in an Admiral but rank. Akainu is doing nothing but getting older if anything he'll decline before he gets any stronger.
Based off the fact, hes a marine soldier who has to keep training. Based off of the fact, that as time goes characters get stronger, unless they are declining from their prime (which is not the case with Akainu clearly).

They wouldn't make a guy who is declining in strength into a fleet admiral.
 

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Based off the fact, hes a marine soldier who has to keep training. Based off of the fact, that as time goes characters get stronger, unless they are declining from their prime (which is not the case with Akainu clearly).

They wouldn't make a guy who is declining in strength into a fleet admiral.
What more could he gain? Akainu was 53 pre TS. He's already maxxed out his df abilities his Haki isn't getting any greater that it already was. Yes as time goes on chars gets stronger that refers to chars that are younger and or in-experienced with their df. Not sure why people seem to think just because the worst Generation got power ups everybody in the series did.

Doflamingo didn't get any stronger.

He got the rank of Fleet Admiral because Sengoku retired and Garp doesn't want to move up in the ranks he didn't get any stronger since the battle of Marineford. Also never stated he got weaker i said if anything he would get weaker before he would get stronger.
 

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Only way they are gonna be on the level of people like Garp (unless they are supposed to be bunch of kids compared to Garp and sengoku).. is to get a power increase. Its is quite naive to assume Akainu didn't get stronger, especially now that hes a fleet admiral.
Who says Akainu is going to be Garp's level?
 
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