[Question] Sabo vs Marco

[David1996]

Marco one this one.

 

[chopstickchakra]

Yupp that would explain why he got his shit tossed by Garp

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Exactly, Garp, stronger than any admiral and stronger than Sabo didn't KO him or kill him all he did was knock him hard enough that he deactivated his DF for a brief second and Garp is one of the strongest characters(by character word of mouth) in One Piece.

 

[shon93]

Exactly, Garp, stronger than any admiral and stronger than Sabo didn't KO him or kill him all he did was knock him hard enough that he deactivated his DF for a brief second and Garp is one of the strongest characters(by character word of mouth) in One Piece.

Garp is not stronger than an admiral at this point of the series bro he's on par with them but not stronger.....Age and Primes matter in OP

 

[Cheese Killer]

Exactly, Garp, stronger than any admiral and stronger than Sabo didn't KO him or kill him all he did was knock him hard enough that he deactivated his DF for a brief second and Garp is one of the strongest characters(by character word of mouth) in One Piece.

How? Haki does not take your DF power away!

 

[chopstickchakra]

Garp is not stronger than an admiral at this point of the series bro he's on par with them but not stronger.....Age and Primes matter in OP

Since we haven't seen anything from either of them since the timeskip, then you can't say anything about power either. At MF Garp would have killed Akainu which is why Sengoku stopped him from throwing away his title. Since MF was the last time we've seen any of the main 3 Admirals let's go from there, and Garp would wreck each one in a 1v1, Garp was their first choice for Admiral way before these guys he just refused so he obviously has the power level for an admiral. Not to mention Garp did more damage to Marco than any of the Admirals during MF. Talking about Prime's and age for all we know Akainu could also be past his prime or in it right now. Akainu could have hit his peak early while Garp looks as if he hit his prime late(looks around late 30's in flashbacks with Roger)

How? Haki does not take your DF power away!

I didn't say it did, I meant Garp hit him hard enough that it rattled Marco enough that he deactivated his DF. Similar to if Someone hit X Drake so hard he canceled his zoan transformation and returned to human shape.

 

[shon93]

If you want to have a quick answer read the bottomm of this reply.
Shon93 a few days ago I posted a really well made reply backing up my opinion in this thread, nobody seems to have read it so let me just esplain:
Haki does NOT take your devil fruit power away, only blackbeard's DF can do that, as for water it only weakens you thus explaning why Luffy could strech under the water before taking out the kraken and depending as how the kairoseki is applied it may weaken you or stop your powers completely.
You seem to forget Marco is a Zoan, he is just a Giant bird in flames, Anyone can do what Garp did back there to Marco because he only has a physical form, Haki is only a must against certain Paramecia like Luffy and all Logia because of their unique attributes.
You rememeber Kizaru back in MF? His beam-machinegun thingy? When Marco tanked that it was his body suffering the damage, but thanks to his hax DF he regenerated himself, His boddy was litterally being pierced and destroyed by mini freezer beams constantly, his lungs, hi heart and his brains were no exeptions and he still was able to keep on tanking Kizaru's beams up his face all the wat to kick him down.
Logias however ave a liquid form, they don't regenerate like Marco if harmed, they just go into their Matter form to nullify the attacks themelves, once harmed they don't regenerate, that's why Garp could harm Marco if he was a Logia wich we all know he isn't.
As for his wounds from Garp's punch? I'd call it dirt on his face man, when Marco had actual Kairoseki on himself he recieved a true wound from Kizaru(All bloody'n $h1t), but the moment Marco got them off guess what? The wound completely dissapeared and he moved like it never happened!
So as for if Garp even used haki vs Marco idk where ppl gets it from, because again; Marco has a physical form, what Garp did to Marco is no different than a punch from Luffy.

So basically: Marco did not get harmed from Garp's punch.

Loll but its been proven that he did get hurt

 

[shon93]

Marco, no diff.

Loll quit trollin on my Sabo comments bro

 

[Dragon Claw]

marco wins.

 

[Dr Strangelove]

Loll quit trollin on my Sabo comments bro

XD Why are you bringing up a post I made like last month?

Ye, now everyone has calmed down with the Sabo w*nk i'll say Marco extreme diff now.

 

[Cheese Killer]

I didn't say it did, I meant Garp hit him hard enough that it rattled Marco enough that he deactivated his DF. Similar to if Someone hit X Drake so hard he canceled his zoan transformation and returned to human shape.

But marco was able to heal from kizaru's wound without changing into phoenix, even if what you said (debatable since X-Drake was close to being inconcious, also Marco's flames were still on when he landed, to me it seemed that he changed forms at will to have a better standing on the ground) was true it should have no impact on his regeneration.

Loll but its been proven that he did get hurt

When was it proved? The "wounds" on his face? Exuse me but luffy looks the exact same way after he falls on dirt.
Also it seems you did not read my argument at all, seems we are not on the same page here, explain to me how haki can affect Marco more thank other tools and then I will tell you why it has no effect on him.

 

[shon93]

When was it proved? The "wounds" on his face? Exuse me but luffy looks the exact same way after he falls on dirt.
Also it seems you did not read my argument at all, seems we are not on the same page here, explain to me how haki can affect Marco more thank other tools and then I will tell you why it has no effect on him.

If you hit Marco with strong haki attacks he won't heal as much as he did the first time. And I proved that with Garp bro. Don't think the Marco is invincible

Why are you bringing up a post I made like last month?

Ye, now everyone has calmed down with the Sabo w*nk i'll say Marco extreme diff now.

You might be right....I always thought Marco was a monster...but what always turned me off or stopped me from putting him at admiral level is his offense....Oda should have gave him guns like Pell or something

 

[akimofnevis]

Sabo wins with both hands behind back tied up in sea chain

 

[Cheese Killer]

If you hit Marco with strong haki attacks he won't heal as much as he did the first time. And I proved that with Garp bro. Don't think the Marco is invincible

You are quoting X and Y without giving in any real argument, I have yet to state Marco is invincible but I may understand why you think that I mean the claim you put in my mouth. I have allready handed out my argument and you are dissmising it like a biased batman fan. Please bother to adress my post properly adding counterpoints and then we talk.

Edit: The reason why I call the haki turning powers off bs is because some time after that attack when Witebeard's life was on the line and Marco's actual powers were actually turned off by actual seachains he got legit deep wounds that would leave holes in his body, his powers then were confirmed to be "truned off" because of the seasstone in his hands, when he got them off and legit once he got them off guess what? the wounds completely dissapeared only leaving dust marks (similar to what happened after harp punched Marco) and he moved like it never happened not ocne even thinking if there even was any pain.
Explain to me in detail this haki turns off your DFabilities thing because so far in the manga haki has never been stated to have such properties. I think in my earlier post i made it seem like I was too close minded to even try to reason with so I decided to edit the post to a more healthy conversation. Hope this helps develop further conversations.

 

[LeEvilTongue]

Sabo was Marco level before the fruit, current Sabo takes it no sweat.

 

[-Akuma-]

Sabo med-dif.​

 

[Bogard]

Sabo med-dif.​

Whoa there. The Marco underestimation is really high here. Sabo isn't winning this let alone mid diffing

 

[Hexuze]

Whoa there. The Marco underestimation is really high here. Sabo isn't winning this let alone mid diffing

IKR. Marco is being highly underestimated here. I'm assuming, it's cause we never seen him really play offensive, other than kicking admirals.

 

[Bogard]

IKR. Marco is being highly underestimated here. I'm assuming, it's cause we never seen him really play offensive, other than kicking admirals.

He is a zoan. Zoan fruits are beasty in close quarter combats but rarely possess long range attack since they are animal based, so improve their physical strength. I don't get people who try to downgrade Marco because he apparently possess no long range attacks when he is no different than someone like Garp on the matter and possess arguably the greatest defense of the manga

 

[Hexuze]

He is a zoan. Zoan fruits are beasty in close quarter combats but rarely possess long range attack since they are animal based, so improve their physical strength. I don't get people who try to downgrade Marco because he apparently possess no long range attacks when he is no different than someone like Garp on the matter and possess arguably the greatest defense of the manga

I doubt he'll have long range attacks, his phoenix mode makes up for that by being able to moves towards his opponents at a pretty fast speed. Also, he can switch between both modes pretty fast.

 

[shon93]

Marco Regeneration might be a little to annoying for Sabo...I need to see more of Sabo's offense before I come to a conclussion. But as good as Marco's regeneration is his offense is subpar and it kind of even things out