[Discussion] Sabo Strength Estimation Thread

[akimofnevis]

Yonko level , don't you dare say I'm wrong

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

I estimate that pre Mera Mera no Mi, he was about as strong as Magellan. Now with the Mera Mera no Mi I'm thinking he is on the verge of obtaining the status of "Admiral Level". He needs to learn how to use his fruit, but then yeah, he will be able to fight Isshou or something.

 

[shon93]

I estimate that pre Mera Mera no Mi, he was about as strong as Magellan. Now with the Mera Mera no Mi I'm thinking he is on the verge of obtaining the status of "Admiral Level". He needs to learn how to use his fruit, but then yeah, he will be able to fight Isshou or something.

Without his DF I pictured him to be equal with Doffy but with hit he is on Admiral level because I think Genrals=Admirals in the RA but I will keep in mind the the Mera Mera has to be refined

 

[silmarill]

I think he is rankin somewhere between Luffy and Doffy level , but hell not Admiral level, I think people are underestimating Admiral level a lot lately
He is most likely able to fend of an admiral a bit but he would get overwhelmed fast.

 

[Dr Strangelove]

I'm saying around Hancock - Kuma level.

 

[Naruchigoo]

Sorry y'll. Sabo is Admiral level. Nuff Said.

 

[Gaara Of The Death]

I'll just quote myself from another forum because the Sabo train has officially derailed.

Admiral or Yonkou level ? everybody who have read more than 10 pages in One Piece should know how the power scaling is done.



Also we all remember how 'admiral level' Ace was, who was equal to Sabo and had the same fruit.

And If Sabo is 'second in command' then how strong must Dragon be ? and if his goal is to topple the WG, why didn't he do so already if his general is the admiral slayer. Even Whitebeards division captains couldn't make a fist to the admirals and they have been roaming the seas with a yonkou for decades.

But Sabo rises from the dead, eats an apple and boom. Admiral/yonkou is born.

Unreal...

No the reason Sabo gets hype is because he does everything so casually, and he's been treating VA lvel fighters like they're nothing. Luffy couldn't do Sabo's feats as casually as Sabo. It's the way he does shit is the reason he gets hype.​

 

[Magi]

Second only to Dragon in the revolutionaries.. You do the math

 

[BK 201]

No the reason Sabo gets hype is because he does everything so casually, and he's been treating VA lvel fighters like they're nothing. Luffy couldn't do Sabo's feats as casually as Sabo. It's the way he does shit is the reason he gets hype.​

I have to agree. This casual manner of his makes me think that he's just warming up.

 

[Love Cook]

No the reason Sabo gets hype is because he does everything so casually, and he's been treating VA lvel fighters like they're nothing. Luffy couldn't do Sabo's feats as casually as Sabo. It's the way he does shit is the reason he gets hype.​

Who is VA level, we've seen nothing from Burgress and Diamante yet, and Barto beat a rookie VA.

Also Sabo hasn't even had a serious exchange with anyone in the ring, he hasn't hurt anyone, he didn't win any fight, he broke a piece of armor and the ring and then fled the scene.

Sabo is featless and you declare him king of the world.

Good job

 

[Klad]

He is pretty strong not that he got Mera Mera no mi .

 

[Gaara Of The Death]

Who is VA level, we've seen nothing from Burgress and Diamante yet, and Barto beat a rookie VA.

Also Sabo hasn't even had a serious exchange with anyone in the ring, he hasn't hurt anyone, he didn't win any fight, he broke a piece of armor and the ring and then fled the scene.

Sabo is featless and you declare him king of the world.

Good job

It's safe to assume Diamate is on the same level as the other executives which means he's on Vergo's level he may not be as strong but he's there which would put him on the VA level. And do you honestly think a Yonko's commander would be anything less than VA level especially how Burgess seem like on of the more combat base crew mates of BB....... Duno how saying him being Admiral means he's king. Oda has to tell you directly how strongas fighter is right, you can't use your head a bit. ​

 

[Love Cook]

It's safe to assume Diamate is on the same level as the other executives which means he's on Vergo's level he may not be as strong but he's there which would put him on the VA level. And do you honestly think a Yonko's commander would be anything less than VA level especially how Burgess seem like on of the more combat base crew mates of BB....... Duno how saying him being Admiral means he's king. Oda has to tell you directly how strongas fighter is right, you can't use your head a bit. ​

Yea assume all you want, I'll just use facts.

not one of those guys launched a serious attack. Burgess was shit on in Impel Down, he was shit on in Banaro island and was shit on in Marineford. Jesus has showed absolutely nothing whatsoever which makes him VA level, so use your head/imagination all your want but let him show something first.

Vergo was the right hand man of DD and a step above the three seats. There is no reason to put Diamante up there. Also again we've seen nothing from Diamante.

And most important of all we've seen nothing from Ssbo !!!, he broke a standard tournament gear elbow pad, he didn't injure anyone. He busted a weak floor and fled the scene. So yes, i'll wait for Oda untill he tells me how strong he is, because the hype is uncalled for at this point, especially the ones that claim him to be on admiral level. Totally ungrounded.

 

[Olorin]

Who is VA level, we've seen nothing from Burgress and Diamante yet, and Barto beat a rookie VA.

Also Sabo hasn't even had a serious exchange with anyone in the ring, he hasn't hurt anyone, he didn't win any fight, he broke a piece of armor and the ring and then fled the scene.

Sabo is featless and you declare him king of the world.

Good job

ok let me list some of the featless characters:
- Dragon
- Roger
- Shanks
- Garp
- Mihawk
- BM
- Ben Backman
...

as I said before some people don't estimate his power level based on him destroying the ring

you know I would have absolutely no problem with you starting with ''imo'' and than stating your opinion but you always have to be condescending and insist on borderline-mocking everyone who has a different view than you, I have absolutely no problem with anyone who disagrees with me and I accept that I maybe wrong and they right, but you aren't satisfied with that

@your second post: you say Vergo was the most important and 1 step above the seats but the description given to Vergo's position (as said by Law) is ''DD's most important pawn''

 

[Love Cook]

ok let me list some of the featless characters:
- Dragon
- Roger
- Shanks
- Garp
- Mihawk
- BM
- Ben Backman
...

as I said before some people don't estimate his power level based on him destroying the ring

you know I would have absolutely no problem with you starting with ''imo'' and than stating your opinion but you always have to be condescending and insist on borderline-mocking everyone who has a different view than you, I have absolutely no problem with anyone who disagrees with me and I accept that I maybe wrong and they right, but you aren't satisfied with that

@your second post: you say Vergo was the most important and 1 step above the seats but the description given to Vergo's position (as said by Law) is ''DD's most important pawn''

Yeah, again a post with argumentation that is so thin that it almost blows away if I leave the window open.

Half of the people on that list aren't even featless as you would like me to believe. Garp and Mihawk have proven themselves multiple times in the manga already, and to put Roger on there is just silly. Also all those people have been compared to others and we got a pretty good idea where they stand on the ladder.

However we know nothing about Sabo, or how he holds his own against others.

@your reaction on my second post, Besides Law's words there also was a diagram by Oda, which said that Vergo was his special man.

So I don't understand the Sabo crusade your on, because there is nothing that warrants the claim that he is admiral level.

Next week we will have the same discussion, but with another charachter, just like we had it with Luffy after he entered the NW and punched a pacifista, or Zoro when he countered Fujitora, or Law on Punk Hazard. This is nothing new and everytime the hypers crawl back in their holes silently when they realize they've been wrong, waiting for the next hype train.

I can only imagine what will happen when Oda will reintroduce the supernova's, that will be a mess.

 

[Olorin]

Yeah, again a post with argumentation that is so thin that it almost blows away if I leave the window open.

Half of the people on that list aren't even featless as you would like me to believe. Garp and Mihawk have proven themselves multiple times in the manga already, and to put Roger on there is just silly. Also all those people have been compared to others and we got a pretty good idea where they stand on the ladder.

However we know nothing about Sabo, or how he holds his own against others.

@your reaction on my second post, Besides Law's words there also was a diagram by Oda, which said that Vergo was his special man.

So I don't understand the Sabo crusade your on, because there is nothing that warrants the claim that he is admiral level.

Next week we will have the same discussion, but with another charachter, just like we had it with Luffy after he entered the NW and punched a pacifista, or Zoro when he countered Fujitora, or Law on Punk Hazard. This is nothing new and everytime the hypers crawl back in their holes silently when they realize they've been wrong, waiting for the next hype train.

I can only imagine what will happen when Oda will reintroduce the supernova's, that will be a mess.

I still don't know why you feel the need to put down everyone that disagrees with you, you know I don't give a single f??? about what you think but our arguments started because you started to put down everyone who speculated Sabo at admiral level, and from then on you have been absolutely nothing but a condescending jerk who thinks he's the only one who reads OP

you even tried to correct me when I said ''read OP'', you seriously need to elarn how to accept the opinions of others, believe it or not you are NOT always right, and you need to learn how to stay the f away from something that isn't even an argument instead of turning it into one

 

[Gaara Of The Death]

Yea assume all you want, I'll just use facts.

not one of those guys launched a serious attack. Burgess was shit on in Impel Down, he was shit on in Banaro island and was shit on in Marineford. Jesus has showed absolutely nothing whatsoever which makes him VA level, so use your head/imagination all your want but let him show something first.

Vergo was the right hand man of DD and a step above the three seats. There is no reason to put Diamante up there. Also again we've seen nothing from Diamante.

And most important of all we've seen nothing from Ssbo !!!, he broke a standard tournament gear elbow pad, he didn't injure anyone. He busted a weak floor and fled the scene. So yes, i'll wait for Oda untill he tells me how strong he is, because the hype is uncalled for at this point, especially the ones that claim him to be on admiral level. Totally ungrounded.

Burgess launched a serious attack he was seen struggling against Sabo his surge elbow was a serious attack, and why would Diamante be serious after seeing Sabo easily shatter his sword? He was shit at Impel down how going by that logic BB is shit then because the whole crew got done by Magellan, and again it's not helping by compare Burgess tow years ago. As we seen BB chooses people base on strength to join his crew why would one of his main fighters be weaker than a VA, it's illogical for you to think that or does Oda have to tell you everthinkg can't you use your head?


Vergo was given the position of chief executive or something, he was still an executive he still on the sam elevel as Vergo. And he leads DD main fighting force aswell he was still given the same sort of title as Vergo he's just a bit ahead of him like I said. It's like comparing Fleet Admiral and normal Admiral they're both Amdiral is just one is slight above the other but they should still be comparable in terms of strength. ​

 

[Love Cook]

Burgess launched a serious attack he was seen struggling against Sabo his surge elbow was a serious attack, and why would Diamante be serious after seeing Sabo easily shatter his sword? He was shit at Impel down how going by that logic BB is shit then because the whole crew got done by Magellan, and again it's not helping by compare Burgess tow years ago. As we seen BB chooses people base on strength to join his crew why would one of his main fighters be weaker than a VA, it's illogical for you to think that or does Oda have to tell you everthinkg can't you use your head?


Vergo was given the position of chief executive or something, he was still an executive he still on the sam elevel as Vergo. And he leads DD main fighting force aswell he was still given the same sort of title as Vergo he's just a bit ahead of him like I said. It's like comparing Fleet Admiral and normal Admiral they're both Amdiral is just one is slight above the other but they should still be comparable in terms of strength. ​

I don't think Jesus was struggeling with his elbows, it basically ended in a tie. The only loser was the elbow pad. It would be a good time for diamante to step up esp. after seeing his sword break. He isn't even a sword fighter so he has plenty in his arsenal left. BB has been toyed around with plenty, he has a bad rep and hasn't shown anything yet, except the Ace fight.

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Jesus was part of the original crew, and not picked in ID. You clearly seem to underestimate VA's because Momonga, Smoker, Vergo and Garp were/are all VA's, I don't see Jesus winning most of those fights. So you keep saying use your head. But maybe you should use your head and don't take stuff for granted.

You pull Vergo down to the same rank as the three card seats, but based on nothing. That has never been said. In fact Vergo was pictured higher than the other three.

Also why cant we use examples from pre-skip it showed that Jesus wasn't that big of a deal, so how much did you expect him to have grown over the skip. He is probably still within Luffy's range of strength, maybe even Zoro and Sanji.

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

Without his DF I pictured him to be equal with Doffy but with hit he is on Admiral level because I think Genrals=Admirals in the RA but I will keep in mind the the Mera Mera has to be refined

Ivankov got fodderized by an Admiral. So the commanders are not all Admiral level