S06P Should Play A Role In Madara's Defeat

Should S06P help the SA win?

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I'm not sure where this battle between SA and Madara will lead, but i hope it's clean as possible. Will it happen? Not sure. Kishimoto is very unpredictable at times when he defeats a villain against the good guys. Here's the thing... Madara even before becoming the jinchuriki of the Juubi soloed the main stars of the SA with little difficulty. Also has anyone noticed how the chapters don't carry much development at all (ex: ch664). This is pretty much looking the same way as Obito's fight... So many wasted chapters last year of Obito trying to TNJ Naruto into joining forces with him. The fight was dragged, too much talking, little action, and worst of all his defeat...

Now about Madara, he just seems to be in the same situation. Are we going to have poorly written chapters like 664? Why are the pages so short as well? 15 pages? It should be at the least 20 pages... I know the SA is meant to win against Madara, but at what cost? The same scenario as Juubito? Now let me talk about our main stars: Naruto and Sasuke. I don't have a problem if they are the one's to finish our pathetic villains (Obito and Madara) but why isn't Kishimoto using the Edo's? What are the Kages doing? Did we see all the yoyo tricks from K11? A little more team effort can't do any more harm!

Now that the climax is here. The main question is what will happen? Will Naruto and Sasuke meet the Sage, Madara uses IT on the world, Juubi becomes the real final villain, or will something totally unexpected hit the roof? Whatever the case if Madara or Juubi is the final villain please make it legit... No more corny defeats because it looks unrealistic. Obito's defeat left a bad taste in my mouth. And from the look of things, Madara isn't looking any better. Who drops the S06P items? This is not very creative from Kishi, but let's see what happens... On a final note, Kishi should make the IT happen so the S06P can make a temporary appearance in order to help the SA win. Do you agree that the S06P should play a role in Madara's defeat?
 
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On the contrary, he should be revived then spend 17 chapters being impaled on various sharp objects, and poisoned kittens. The sage does not matter, it is all the Wannabe Sages that matter.
 

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Dont need a sage. They got the master of ninja tools, Tenten.
She isn't going to do shit, Team Gai will appear with the tools, hand them over to more capable Ninja( Well tenten will hand em over, maybe not lee and gai) Then we won't see her untill the end of the manga.
 

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Do some people actually think the Sage was that shortsighted in leaving his secrets to the Elder Son only for his descendants to use those secrets for morally-questionable means?


Hagoromo: Elder Son, I leave you my Tablet containing all my secrets, even though I shafted you by choosing your lil'bro instead of you I'm sure you or your descendants won't go bonkers and use it to do something naughty like unseal the Juubi and place the world in an infinite genjutsu right? ok tnx I go bye bye now!
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Do some people actually think the Sage was that shortsighted in leaving his secrets to the Elder Son only for his descendants to use those secrets for morally-questionable means?


Hagoromo: Elder Son, I leave you my Tablet containing all my secrets, even though I shafted you by choosing your lil'bro instead of you I'm sure you or your descendants won't go bonkers and use it to do something naughty like unseal the Juubi and place the world in an infinite genjutsu right? ok tnx I go bye bye now!
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exactly. There's something Fishy about it and i think it's going to be revealed soon enough.
 

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Do some people actually think the Sage was that shortsighted in leaving his secrets to the Elder Son only for his descendants to use those secrets for morally-questionable means?


Hagoromo: Elder Son, I leave you my Tablet containing all my secrets, even though I shafted you by choosing your lil'bro instead of you I'm sure you or your descendants won't go bonkers and use it to do something naughty like unseal the Juubi and place the world in an infinite genjutsu right? ok tnx I go bye bye now!
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Why the Sage leave even some of the secrets? So that Naruto has the task of finishing what's left of the hatred that gulfs the ninja world?
 

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Why the Sage leave even some of the secrets? So that Naruto has the task of finishing what's left of the hatred that gulfs the ninja world?
He wants the cycle of suffering to end brought about by the Karma of the stolen power of Chakra, unless humanity can make peace with the progenitor the cycle of suffering will never end and the Shinobi World will forever walk the Outer Path of illusory peace.
 

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He wants the cycle of suffering to end brought about by the Karma of the stolen power of Chakra, unless humanity can make peace with the progenitor the cycle of suffering will never end and the Shinobi World will forever walk the Outer Path of illusory peace.
Not disagreeing with your points, but why would the Sage trust this task to the SA? The Sage wasn't able to get rid of the hatred that keeps going on in the present. However going by your logic, the Sage knew the Elder Son's descendants would go after the secret of the tablets to bring the Juubi back. Am i right?
 

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He wants the cycle of suffering to end brought about by the Karma of the stolen power of Chakra, unless humanity can make peace with the progenitor the cycle of suffering will never end and the Shinobi World will forever walk the Outer Path of illusory peace.
Wait wasn't the fruit eaten from the tree because mankind was trying to escape from the endless cycle of suffering in the first place?
 

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Do some people actually think the Sage was that shortsighted in leaving his secrets to the Elder Son only for his descendants to use those secrets for morally-questionable means?


Hagoromo: Elder Son, I leave you my Tablet containing all my secrets, even though I shafted you by choosing your lil'bro instead of you I'm sure you or your descendants won't go bonkers and use it to do something naughty like unseal the Juubi and place the world in an infinite genjutsu right? ok tnx I go bye bye now!
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Also didn't Madara kind of free ball the infinite genjutsu part? All that was on the tablet was a history lesson and a message about two opposing forces cooperating creating true happiness? I probably am oversimplifying it but it never says the moon's eye plan was on the tablet.
 

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Not disagreeing with your points, but why would the Sage trust this task to the SA? The Sage wasn't able to get rid of the hatred that keeps going on in the present. However going by your logic, the Sage knew the Elder Son's descendants would go after the secret of the tablets to bring the Juubi back. Am i right?
Yes, that's basically it, it's all part of his plan.

The Sage entrusted the fate of the world to the future generation, he was a man who tried to find peace and sought peace for the world but he never truly achieved it in his lifetime, that is where Naruto comes in (Rikudou to Bijuus: Unlike when you were inside me, you will be lead properly, I hope you learn what true strength is, before that time...") you may not agree with me on this, but I firmly believe Naruto is the reincarnation of the Sage, since it is necessary for him to reincarnate in the Samsaric Wheel to finish his work (Kurama to other Bijuus: Don't you all agree... that Naruto's the Old Man's...)

Unless Chakra is returned to its source, humanity will forever be cursed, and destined to hate each other even more, perhaps Naruto will offer to return it to Juubi (without killing them) in exchange for sparing humanity's existence. That would also be a good precedent in making Sasuke Hokage, because Naruto must travel and preach the new gospel of the Inner Path in the new world leaving Konoha in Sasuke's hands.

That would also prevent Orochimaru from trolling the dead ever again with Edo Tensei. :p
 
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Yes, that's basically it, it's all part of his plan.

The Sage entrusted the fate of the world to the future generation, he was a man who tried to find peace and sought peace for the world but he never truly achieved it in his lifetime, that is where Naruto comes in (Rikudou to Bijuus: Unlike when you were inside me, you will be lead properly, I hope you learn what true strength is, before that time...") you may not agree with me on this, but I firmly believe Naruto is the reincarnation of the Sage, since it is necessary for him to reincarnate in the Samsaric Wheel to finish his work (Kurama to other Bijuus: Don't you all agree... that Naruto's the Old Man's...)

Unless Chakra is returned to its source, humanity will forever be cursed, and destined to hate each other even more, perhaps Naruto will offer to return it to Juubi (without killing them) in exchange for sparing humanity's existence. That would also be a good precedent in making Sasuke Hokage, because Naruto must travel and preach the new gospel of the Inner Path in the new world leaving Konoha in Sasuke's hands.

That would also prevent Orochimaru from trolling the dead ever again with Edo Tensei. :p
Well, Derp.. Even if this is true. Isn't this a punishment to the human race as well? The Juubi is the progenitor of destruction, yet the Sage expects people to figure out how to make peace with it? What is the Juubi going to be more accepting since it will be complete now? I'm saying this because it will have all the tail beast chakra within it. Will Naruto make the Juubi rebel against Madara? I was also thinking of that distinct possibility. The Juubi was incomplete by the time that Obito took possession of it. Shouldn't it be a problem for Madara as well, especially since controlling the Juubi isn't easy. Well let's see what happens.

Also about Naruto being the reincarnation of the Sage. I saw once a thread about how this OP said that Sasuke was the reincarnation of Hagoromo Otsuki, Naruto being the reincarnation of the Juubi, and Madara being the reincarnation of the Elder Son. Is this a possibility, too?
 

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I think the problem is that the suffering of the human race from the cycle of hatred is not caused by humans having eaten the fruit of the Juubi... the reason that the Sage's mother ate the fruit in the first place was to bring peace to a world already suffering from the cycle of hatred... Maybe in order to move on to the right way to pursue peace this "original sin" has to be righted... but that in and of itself doesn't seem like a necessary step.
 
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