S06P really isn't that strong

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The sage does not control reality. The sage controls HIS reality. Its the same reason why danzo didn't just wish sasuke and Tobi out of existence, its because he couldn't. Its the same reason that the SO6P didn't simply wish the juubi out of existence, its because he couldn't. And its the same reason that the SO6P only "surpassed all his peers" after he became the juubi's jinchuriki, implying that before then there were a group of other warriors who were capable of fighting him at his level.
that's nonsense.
"surpassed all his peers" means his ability was no more bound to human/ninja restriction. Get it r8, he 'alone' defeated the juubi, all the tailed beasts combined,which had a rinnegan and sharingan fused eye, may be powerful then both of them combined. And 'HE DEFEATED IT'. So he surely was stronger than s06p without the juubi inside of him.
I say he was stronger than any other character in naruto verse including madara, Km naruto, Nagato tobi or whatever before having the juubi inside of him.
 

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I always assumed that pre juubi sage of 6 paths was around Nagato,Tobi, and Madara level. And for all we know the sage could been getting his ass kicked until he used a once in a chance lifetime sealing technique.

My guess is
SO6P (with juubi) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SO6P (without juubi) > or = Tobi,Madara and Nagato
God. I'm getting tired of your Nagato hyping.
 
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that's nonsense.
"surpassed all his peers" means his ability was no more bound to human/ninja restriction. Get it r8, he 'alone' defeated the juubi, all the tailed beasts combined,which had a rinnegan and sharingan fused eye, may be powerful then both of them combined. And 'HE DEFEATED IT'. So he surely was stronger than s06p without the juubi inside of him.
I say he was stronger than any other character in naruto verse including madara, Km naruto, Nagato tobi or whatever before having the juubi inside of him.
Yet his only feat to scale his power by is defeating the juubi.
And the only thing that we know about the juubi is that it is stronger than the ninetails, which can be defeated quite handily by any of the guys that you've listed.
 

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Yet his only feat to scale his power by is defeating the juubi.
And the only thing that we know about the juubi is that it is stronger than the ninetails, which can be defeated quite handily by any of the guys that you've listed.
yes they can beat kyuubi. But juubi? not a chance.

Just in case people start jumping to conclusion, Madara can't beat the ten tails until kishi prove it otherwise. he can control it, that's a whole different thing. he doesn't have anything in his arsenal to do so, maybe the rinnegan, but nagato had it and was a better user than him, and struggle to beat the sixth tail naruto, and to hold the eighth tail. So the answer is no. Amaterasu maybe, tsukuyomi nope, the tails is a vast asenal of chakras. Susanoos maybe can do damage, but i don't it would be able to seal the ten tails. The ten tails bomb would vanquish both susanoo and him in one blast. So the anwer is no.
Remember, Juubi = 9 Tails + 8 Tails + 7 Tails +......+1 Tails + rinnegan+sharingan+ may be even more we don't know yet. and that GUY defeated it single handed . Man !
and that was before he got juubi..............
wraping reality at what level doesn't matter to understand that he is GODLIKE strong. It doesn't even require.
 

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yes they can beat kyuubi. But juubi? not a chance.
See, but you can't say that since the only thing you know about the juubi's power is that it is at least as strong as the kyuubi, so giving the juubi any more feats than the kyuubi is going off of personal opinion since for all we know the juubi could be 1.1x stronger than the kyuubi to over 9,000 times stronger than the kyuubi.
 

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Yet his only feat to scale his power by is defeating the juubi.
And the only thing that we know about the juubi is that it is stronger than the ninetails, which can be defeated quite handily by any of the guys that you've listed.
u r always giving example from DBZ. now, remeber when goku ss4 and vegeta ss4 was fighting shen shenron together? vegeta said they wouldn't be able to defeat him fighting together. They need to fuse and fight him.why?
cause fusing doesn't add their power, it multiplies.
Now what if that theory also apply in naruto verse?
Think, Juubi= 9 Tails x 8 Tails x 7 Tails X .................OMG
reality manipulating is a different case in dbz comparing that marvel comic.
DBZ has a lot of people with that power, yet they e weak. that rule doesn't apply in other manga. Though i agree so6p wasn't that good with reality manipulating.

I wonder what would happen if so6p creates a brolly using Izanagy to fight goku !!:D
 
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See, but you can't say that since the only thing you know about the juubi's power is that it is at least as strong as the kyuubi, so giving the juubi any more feats than the kyuubi is going off of personal opinion since for all we know the juubi could be 1.1x stronger than the kyuubi to over 9,000 times stronger than the kyuubi.
it's not a personal opinion. For the last time, pls (i hate typing)
Juubi=9 Tails + 8 Tails + 6Tails + ....+ 1 Tails + rinnegan+ sharingan+.....
kyuubi is Just 9 Tails .
even if u take him out of juubi,
Juubi=8 Tails + 6Tails + ....+ 1 Tails + rinnegan+ sharingan+.....
 

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u r always giving example from DBZ. now, remeber when goku ss4 and vegeta ss4 was fighting shen shenron together? vegeta said they wouldn't be able to defeat him fighting together. They need to fuse and fight him.why?
cause fusing doesn't add their power, it multiplies.
Now what if that theory also apply in naruto verse?
Think, Juubi= 9 Tails x 8 Tails x 7 Tails X .................OMG
reality manipulating is a different case in dbz comparing that marvel comic.
DBZ has a lot of people with that power, yet they e weak. that rule doesn't apply in other manga. Though i agree so6p wasn't that goog with reality manipulating.
I give examples from DBZ when debating DBZ, but I never use dbz logic in narutoverse except when two characters abilities are extremely far apart.

We don't know if fusing the tailed beasts will power them up like a fusion in DBZ, its a possibility, but we don't know. For all we know the difference between the juubi and the kyuubi could = the difference between the kyuubi and the hachibi.

I wonder what would happen if so6p creates a brolly using Izanagy to fight goku !!:D
Haha, I doubt the SO6P could create anything with a power level of over 9,000 since he can't create things more powerful than the juubi, since its the juubi that powers the creation of all things.
 

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Nagato was near death and battled an entire village along with ma and pa with 3 huge summons and was also using a dead puppet from a distance and he still beat 6 to 8 tail kyuubi mode Naruto. If it had been a fully healthy Nagato even the full kyuubi would have been killed.
Is this some kind of joke, even he nagato was shocked at the power, and the 8tails broke through his strongest jutsu, so no!!!! Nagato cannot defeat the 9tails
 
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Is this some kind of joke, even he nagato was shocked at the power, and the 8tails broke through his strongest jutsu, so no!!!! Nagato cannot defeat the 9tails
Nah, nagato said "I'll have to make it bigger" in reference to the chibaku tensei, meaning he could have captured the 8 tails as well in his exhausted state. Starting the battle at full power, and after absorbing a TBB with preta path, its pretty much guaranteed that he can make one big enough to capture the ninetails.
 

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I couldnt be bothered to read all the pages in this thread because it isnt worth it.
Tbh this thread is even worse than any minato vs thread ive seen. Yes including minato > sage imo.

What i would say is that, even before he sealed the 10 tails, he was already a god
 

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Is this some kind of joke, even he nagato was shocked at the power, and the 8tails broke through his strongest jutsu, so no!!!! Nagato cannot defeat the 9tails
Nagato can beat 9 tails, just the fact that a weakened chakra depleted Nagato sealed kyuubi with 6 - 8 tails can be proven with that. Plus you forget Nagato as gedo Mazo.

And you forget Pain wasn't trying to kill Naruto or kyuubi.
 

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For all we know the difference between the juubi and the kyuubi could = the difference between the kyuubi and the hachibi.
ha? but kyuubi isnt = hachibi + 7 tails + 6 tails +...
and hachibi isn't = 7 tails + 6 tails +...
But juubi = kyuubi+hachibi+7 tails + 6 tails +..............
I am avoiding sharingan and rinnegan for now, u don't seem to have notice these in previous comments.
Lets make it simple, take out a Kyuubi from Juubi and let it Fight The current
kyuubi. It's a draw, they both dies.
But juubi still have an insane amount of chakra left in side of him.
Can u do that kind of things in a Kyuubi vs Hachibi fight?
so clearly,there is a huge power gap between Juubi's and kyuubi's power.


Haha, I doubt the SO6P could create anything with a power level of over 9,000 since he can't create things more powerful than the juubi, since its the juubi that powers the creation of all things.
just kidding.
 
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ha? but kyuubi isnt = hachibi + 7 tails + 6 tails +...
and hachibi isn't = 7 tails + 6 tails +...
But juubi = kyuubi+hachibi+7 tails + 6 tails +..............
I avoiding sharingan and rinnegan for now, u don't seem to have notice these in previous comments.
Lets make it simple, take out a Kyuubi from Juubi and let it Fight The current
kyuubi. It's a draw, they both dies.
But juubi still have an insane amount of chakra left in side of him.
Can u do that kind of things in a Kyuubi vs Hachibi fight?
so clearly,there is a huge power gap between Juubi's and kyuubi's power.


Haha, I doubt the SO6P could create anything with a power level of over 9,000 since he can't create things more powerful than the juubi, since its the juubi that powers the creation of all things.
just kidding.[/QUOTE]

How much stronger do you think the juubi is when compared to the kyuubi?
 
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